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The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives — and which ones you should bring into yours.
The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives — and which ones you should bring into yours.
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Apr 21, 2023 • 1h 20min
AI Drake, AI friends, AI everything
Today, things got a little loose in the studio of The Vergecast. Switched on Pop's Charlie Harding joins Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce to make their own version of Drake's AI summer classic. We're not saying a laser bong was involved, but we're not not saying that either.Then deputy editor Alex Heath stops by to tell us about Snaps latest announcements and give us an update on the latest round of layoffs at Meta.Finally, a lightning round with all the big headlines in tech from this week.Further reading:
AI Drake just set an impossible legal trap for Google
Google employees label AI chatbot Bard ‘worse than useless’ and ‘a pathological liar’: report
What’s really going on with ‘Ghostwriter’ and the AI Drake song?
Family of F1 legend Michael Schumacher plans legal action over fake AI interview
Snapchat releases My AI chatbot to all users for free
Google’s big AI push will combine Brain and DeepMind into one team
Netflix is shutting down its original DVD business after 25 years
Netflix is out of the DVD business because streaming won – now, can Netflix still win?
Twitter begins removing blue checkmarks from all legacy users
It’s a laser bong
SpaceX’s Starship successfully takes off before bursting into flames
BuzzFeed News is being shut down
Social media is doomed to die
Google Fi has a new name and expanded connectivity support for smartwatches
Leak: Google will announce the Pixel Fold at I/O and beat Samsung on battery
Everything spy movies get right (and wrong) about smart glasses
Microsoft is reportedly working on a smaller Surface Pro and Arm-powered Surface Go 4
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Apr 19, 2023 • 1h 7min
How a TikTok ban could actually work
Today on the flagship podcast of quantum dots: 02:33 - Makena Kelly explains the various attempts from the US government to ban TikTok, and how that could actually work.
TikTok ban: all the news on attempts to ban the video platform
Inside the US government’s fight to ban TikTok
25:06 - Allison Johnson explains the state of the Android phone market, and where it’s headed next this year. The best Android phone to buy in 202351:28 - Chris Welch explains why this may be the best time to buy an OLED TV.
This is the best time in a decade to splurge on a premium OLED TV
Making sense of new TV features in 2022
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Apr 14, 2023 • 1h 35min
HBO vs. Max and Twitter vs. Substack
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss Warner Bros. Discovery's new streaming service, Sony's mobile gaming move, and Twitter's feud with Substack.Further reading:
HBO and Discovery’s ‘Max’ streaming service is here
Max is charging more money for 4K, and that means it can't suck this time
What we’ve learned about Sony PlayStation’s new smartphone games team
Sony is gearing up for a new cloud gaming push amid rumors of a PlayStation handheld
NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube starts at $249 for the 2023 season
Google TV’s live guide is getting crammed full of over 800 free channels
Microsoft is experimenting with a Windows gaming handheld mode for Steam Deck-like devices
NPR becomes first major news organization to leave Twitter
PBS also stops tweeting after being hit with ‘government-funded media’ label
Is Substack Notes a ‘Twitter clone’? We asked CEO Chris Best
Mini’s cars are getting an ‘intelligent personal assistant’ named Spike
You can now talk to Microsoft’s Bing chatbot from your keyboard in iOS with SwiftKey
Nvidia RTX 4070 review: a $599 RTX 3080 — kind of
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Apr 12, 2023 • 52min
The best streaming services in 2023
What are the best streaming services in 2023? Nilay, Alex, and David decide in the most chaotic way possible: with draft-style picks. The crew debates the best roster for the future of entertainment — from Netflix to Hulu to HBO Max to a few surprises. Who is the MVP, and who gets snubbed? Find out in our inaugural Vergecast streaming draft.Read more: theverge.com/streaming-warsVote for us in the People’s Voice Webby Awards for Best Technology Podcast: http://bit.ly/3moCTDs Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Apr 7, 2023 • 1h 19min
Twitter blue check chaos and CarPlay squabbles
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss the end of Twitter and the future of infotainment.Links:
The color quiz
Twitter tried to hide who pays for their checkmark, but life finds a way.
https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1641905502043926530
Substack is getting a Twitter-like ‘Notes’ feed
Elon Musk’s obsession with blue checks is a verified problem
Twitter yanks the New York Times’ checkmark in verification overhaul
Today in Twitter: where are the retweet labels, and why did Doge replace the bird?
Spotify shuts down its Clubhouse competitor
Spotify shows how the live audio boom has gone bust
Everybody hates GM’s decision to kill Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for its EVs
The rest of the auto industry still loves CarPlay and Android Auto
GM is cutting off access to Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for its future EVs
Could a new PlayStation handheld be built for Remote Play? I like the idea
Asus ROG Ally handheld gaming PC is no April Fools’ joke
Walmart’s redesigned website looks better than Amazon
Donald Trump was arrested, please like and subscribe
The Home Assistant SkyConnect is a combination Zigbee and Thread dongle for better smart home control
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Apr 5, 2023 • 1h 11min
How to use Microsoft’s AI Copilot, laptop microphones, and Amazon Sidewalk
Today on the flagship podcast of peer-to-peer wireless networking: 02:31 - David Pierce talks with smart home reviewer Jennifer Pattison Tuohy about Amazon’s network of smart home devices called Sidewalk and the state of Matter, the promised smart home standard. Amazon just opened up its Sidewalk network for anyone to build connected gadgets on32:16- Monica Chin brings six laptops to Times Square in New York City to test out the microphones.48:47 - Tom Warren joins the show to explain how AI is being integrated into Microsoft’s products, which may be more promising than Bing’s chatbot.
Microsoft’s new Copilot will change Office documents forever
Microsoft Security Copilot is a new GPT-4 AI assistant for cybersecurity
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Mar 31, 2023 • 1h 23min
The swaggy AI Pope and Apple headset rumors
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss AI image generators getting better, Apple WWDC 2023 rumors, and the other big stories in tech this week.Further reading:
The swagged-out pope is an AI fake — and an early glimpse of a new reality
Another hurdle for AI image generators: unicycles
It’s so hard to be worried about AI when the shit is so funny.
AI-generated video is still in its “demonic phase.”
Elon Musk and top AI researchers call for pause on ‘giant AI experiments’
UK rejects idea of dedicated AI regulator.
The US government is gearing up for an AI antitrust fight
FTC should stop OpenAI from launching new GPT models, says AI policy group
Apple’s WWDC 2023 kicks off on June 5th
Apple staff reportedly express doubts about mixed-reality headset months ahead of launch
Apple Pay Later is finally launching
The ugly economics behind Apple’s new Pay Later system
Apple Music Classical is now available from the App Store
Disney just laid off the guy it bought Marvel from... but that’s probably a good thing
Elon Musk is now the most-followed person on Twitter
Twitter is secretly boosting Elon Musk, Dril, and MrBeast for some reason
Google’s ADT partnership finally has a new home security product to show for it
Sony’s new ZV-E1 camera is designed to help your vlogs suck less
The TikTok ban is a betrayal of the open internet
Can Mastodon seize the moment from Twitter?
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Mar 29, 2023 • 1h 3min
The best laptops for school, tablets for reading, and routers for home
The Verge answers questions from The Vergecast Hotline. We hear from David Pierce on balancing privacy and modern conveniences for digital journaling, Alex Cranz on tablets for reading, Dan Seifert and Allison Johnson on tech reviews at The Verge, Jennifer Pattison Tuohy on smart home routers and doorbells, and Monica Chin on laptops for college.Further reading:
My impossible search for the best, most powerful, most private journaling app ever
The best iPad to buy in 2023
Ethics Statement - The Verge
Nest Wifi Pro review: better, faster, shinier
Eero Pro 6E review: faster Wi-Fi but flakier performance
Aqara Video Doorbell G4 review: this battery-powered buzzer needs to go back to basics
The FTC wants to ban those tough-to-cancel gym and cable subscriptions
Best laptop 2023: 15 best laptops you can buy
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Mar 24, 2023 • 1h 19min
TikTok goes to Washington
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce are joined by policy reporter Makena Kelly, who is on the ground in Washington for the House Energy and Commerce Committee's hearing on TikTok. Later, we dive into all the other news from this week, from Google's release of Bard to OpenAI's rapid expansion of ChatGPT. It was a big week.Further reading:
TikTok ban hearing: all the news on the US’s crackdown on the video platform
TikTok bans deepfakes of nonpublic figures and fake endorsements in rule refresh
Google opens early access to its ChatGPT rival Bard — here are our first impressions
Google says its Bard chatbot isn't a search engine — so what is it?
Testing Google Bard: the chatbot doesn’t love me, but it’s still pretty weird
Google and Microsoft’s chatbots are already citing one another in a misinformation shitshow
Sundar Pichai expects that ‘things will go wrong’ with Bard
Can AI generate a way to pay for itself?
GitHub Copilot gets a new ChatGPT-like assistant to help developers write and fix code
Mozilla.ai is a new startup created to build more open and trustworthy AI
OpenAI is massively expanding ChatGPT’s capabilities to let it browse the web and more
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Mar 22, 2023 • 1h 18min
How to buy an iPad, hike 2,600 miles, and watch free TV
Today on the flagship podcast of over-the-air interactive television:David Pierce is joined by Alex Cranz and Janko Roettgers to talk about ATSC 3.0, the new standard for over-the-air broadcasting.The future of TV is up in the airMitchell Clark joins the show to discuss his next endeavor.Mitchell's gear listDan Seifert explains which iPad you should buy and how to make the iPad work better for writing by hand.
The best iPad to buy in 2023
Yes, paper-feel screen protectors for the iPad are good
This Apple Pencil clone provides 80 percent of the experience for a quarter of the price
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