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The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives — and which ones you should bring into yours.
The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives — and which ones you should bring into yours.
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Jun 28, 2023 • 1h 34min
Google Pixel Fold review, Microsoft vs FTC, and Congress’ child safety bills
Today on the flagship podcast of the console wars: 02:42 - David Pierce chats with Verge senior editor Tom Warren about the five-day trial between Microsoft and the FTC that will determine the future of its $68.7 billion proposed acquisition of Activision Blizzard.
FTC v. Microsoft: all the news from the big Xbox courtroom battle
Has Xbox really lost the console wars?
Microsoft exec was ready to ‘go spend Sony out of business’ to strengthen Xbox
35:00 - Policy reporter Makena Kelly joins the show to explain what Congress is trying to do to address child safety online.
Texas bans kids from social media without parental consent
New bill would add mandatory age verification to social networks
1:03:07 - The Verge’s Allison Johnson and Dan Seifert discuss our Google Pixel Fold review, and how it stacks up against other foldables and flippables.
Google Pixel Fold review: closing the gap
The Pixel Fold shows how far ahead Samsung’s folding phones are
Motorola Razr Plus review: the right moves
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Jun 23, 2023 • 1h 23min
Meta and Reddit prove the social web is over
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss the vibe shift that is happening on social media and the communal internet.Further reading:
Instagram’s upcoming Twitter competitor shown in leaked screenshots
Facebook, Fosstodon & The Fediverse
Daring Fireball: Not That Kind of 'Open'
Daring Fireball: More on Preemptively Blocking Facebook’s Imminent ActivityPub Entry
It's September, Forever
Mark Zuckerberg agrees to Elon Musk cage match challenge
Reddit removed moderators behind the latest protests before restoring a few of them
Reddit says it’s ‘not acceptable’ for communities to go NSFW in protest
Google Pixel Tablet review: the dock makes all the difference
Apple reportedly has fitness features for the Vision Pro we haven’t seen yet
Easily replaceable phone batteries might be back, and I’m here for it
Gary Vaynerchuk is 'petrified' of Slack
TikTok COO V. Pappas has reportedly quit
Microsoft is hiking the price of Xbox Series X and Xbox Game Pass
DPReview will live, actually — under new ownership
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Jun 21, 2023 • 1h 8min
How AI really works, and how the smart home broke
Today on the flagship podcast of open-source lightbulbs: David Pierce chats with Verge investigations editor Josh Dzieza about his story detailing how humans matter far more to AI development than we may have thought.Inside the AI Factory: the humans that make tech seem humanLater, smart home reviewer Jennifer Pattison Tuohy explains why we're probably getting the idea of a “smart home” all wrong.
Smart homes for smart people
How microgrids and smart homes are shaping our energy-independent future
Every device that works with Matter
What is a smart home, and do you need one?
How to pick a smart home platform
From brilliant to basic, here are our smart home setups
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Jun 16, 2023 • 1h 17min
Reddit vs. Reddit: the latest on the fight for the platform
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Jay Peters discuss all the news about the API changes infuriating Redditors, as well as takeaways from Jay's interview with Reddit CEO Steve Huffman.Later on the show: will the Apple Vision Pro replace the TV?Further reading:
Reddit CEO Steve Huffman isn’t backing down: our full interview
Reddit CEO Steve Huffman: Reddit ‘was never designed to support third-party apps’
Reddit crashed because of the growing subreddit blackout
Reddit CEO tells employees that subreddit blackout ‘will pass’
How Reddit set itself up for a fall
Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts
The Apple Vision Pro might be a TV, but it won’t replace the TV
Steve Jobs Showing off Macintosh to Andy Warhol, Keith Haring and Kenny Scharf in 1984 ~ Vintage Everyday
In the bid to grow at all costs, Instant Pot is cooking itself and has filed for bankruptcy
Live Nation-Ticketmaster to disclose full ticket prices upfront
Twitter sued for $250 million by music publishers over ‘massive’ copyright infringement
The Meater smart meat thermometer now supports the iPhone Dynamic Island and Live Activities.
Instagram’s status update now includes what song you’re listening to
It’s not just you: Steam suddenly looks nice
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Jun 14, 2023 • 1h 36min
The war for Reddit, new MacBook Air, and Meta's Twitter competitor
Today on the flagship podcast of suddenly private subreddits: 01:45 - David Pierce and Nilay Patel call up Christian Selig, who runs the popular Reddit app Apollo, to talk about the changes to the platform that have infuriated Redditors, and what it means for the future of Reddit.
Reddit’s API updates: all the news about changes that have infuriated Redditors
More than 6,000 subreddits have gone dark to protest Reddit’s API changes
Apollo’s developer on Reddit’s new API changes, and why users revolted
46:15 - Then, David talks with deputy editor Alex Heath about Meta’s reaction to the new Apple Vision Pro headset, and that new Twitter competitor the company is launching.
Here’s what Mark Zuckerberg thinks about Apple’s Vision Pro
Instagram’s upcoming Twitter competitor shown in leaked screenshots
1:09:54 - After that, senior reviewer Monica Chin joins the show to discuss her review of Apple’s new 15-inch Macbook Air. Apple MacBook Air 15-inch review: exactly what was asked for1:33:24 - Keep listening for this week’s Vergecast hotline question.
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Jun 9, 2023 • 1h 22min
Widgets are back, and everything else from WWDC
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Alex Cranz discuss all the updates to Apple's iOS, macOS, watchOS, and iPadOS announced at WWDC this week.Later, Verge senior correspondent Liz Lopatto joins the show to explain the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) suing crypto exchanges Binance and Coinbase, and what it means for the future of crypto.Further reading:
Apple WWDC 10 biggest announcements: Vision Pro, MacBook Air, iOS 17, and more
watchOS 10 is bringing back widgets in a big way
Apple’s iPadOS 17 adds personalized lock screen and interactive widgets
Apple’s Siri will soon handle multiple smart home commands
Apple’s iPadOS 17 adds personalized lock screen and interactive widgets
Apple announces iOS 17 with StandBy charging mode and better autocorrect
Standby is a new iOS 17 feature for your iPhone that could be great for Apple Home users
Online age verification is coming, and privacy is on the chopping block
Hands-on with the new 15-inch MacBook Air
Apple announces macOS Sonoma with game mode and support for desktop widgets
Mac Pro with M2 Ultra first look: boy, that’s a big chip
All the features Apple didn’t mention in its WWDC 2023 keynote
The SEC is suing crypto giant Binance, here’s all the details
The SEC is trying to freeze Binance’s assets
The SEC sues crypto exchange Coinbase for breaking US securities laws
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Jun 7, 2023 • 26min
Vergecast vs WVFRM trivia!
The Vergecast's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Dan Seifert are challenged to a game of tech trivia by Waveform's Marques Brownlee, Andrew Manganelli, and David Imel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jun 7, 2023 • 1h 7min
Apple’s Vision Pro: the headset of the future?
On Apple's campus, The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Dan Seifert discuss the long-rumored Apple Vision Pro that was announced this week at WWDC.Later, Marques Brownlee, Andrew Manganelli, and David Imel of the Waveform podcast join the show for a lightning round of everyone's favorite WWDC announcements.Coming soon: the Vergecast and Waveform team challenge each other to trivia!Further reading:
Apple WWDC 10 biggest announcements: Vision Pro, MacBook Air, iOS 17, and more
Apple Vision Pro is Apple’s new $3,499 AR headset
Apple announces visionOS, the operating system for its Vision Pro headset
Apple Vision Pro first look: the mixed reality future is (almost) here
I wore the Apple Vision Pro. It’s the best headset demo ever.
Optic ID will unlock Apple’s new Vision Pro headset
Apple’s Vision Pro headset will turn you into a digital avatar when FaceTiming
Everywhere Apple imagines you’ll use its $3,500 Vision Pro headset
Apple’s new VR headset will feature over 100 Apple Arcade games at launch
Disney Plus and VR sports games are coming to Apple Vision Pro
Microsoft Word, Excel, and Teams are all coming to Apple’s new Vision Pro headset
What’s so ‘pro’ about Apple’s Vision Pro headset?
The Vision Pro headset is really Apple’s first TV
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Jun 2, 2023 • 1h 17min
Meta’s Quest 3 revealed and a WWDC preview
The Verge's David Pierce, Alex Cranz, and Adi Robertson discuss Meta's new Quest 3 VR headset that was announced ahead of Apple's WWDC event, which is widely believed to showcase an Apple headset.Deputy editor Dan Seifert joins the show to discuss the rest of the WWDC rumors and theories.Further reading:
Meta announces its Quest 3 VR headset, which will cost $499.99
The biggest announcements from Meta's Quest Gaming Showcase
Apple’s mixed reality headset: all the reports about the rumored AR / VR headset
Apple’s VR headset might run tweaked versions of iPad apps
WWDC 2023: what to expect at Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference
Apple might announce ‘several’ Macs at WWDC
The Motorola Razr Plus' new cover screen is a big deal
Amazon Echo Pop review: Alexa for less
Hot foldable summer is here, and there are good reasons to get excited
Range Rover’s next luxury add-on: A car seat that vibrates to music
The ultimate “what is a photo?” gadget.
Lisa's Final Act: how Apple invented its future by burying its past
Kid Cop Returns (Again and Again)
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May 31, 2023 • 1h 15min
The two computers that made Apple
Today on the flagship podcast of third-party operating systems: The Verge's David Pierce chats with Laine Nooney, author of The Apple II Age: How The Computer Became Personal. Later, lead video producer Will Poor chats with David about The Verge's new documentary Lisa’s Final Act: How Apple invented its future by burying its past.To end the show: a hotline question. How to transfer playlists from Spotify to Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, or TidalEmail us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. We'll be answering a question every Wednesday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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