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The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives — and which ones you should bring into yours.
The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives — and which ones you should bring into yours.
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Aug 6, 2024 • 1h 11min
Quibi's epic fall and the future of books
Today on the flagship podcast of what the future of Kindle turns out to be: We’re once again trying out a couple of our favorite new show formats. In Version History, we talk through the whole story of Quibi, from its early days as NewTV to its extremely ill-timed launch to its ultimate demise.
From Variety: Quibi Has Raised $1.75B After Closing $750M Round to Fund Launch
From Variety: Jeffrey Katzenberg’s NewTV Closes $1B, Major Studios Among Investors
Quibi’s CES 2020 launch
Quibi app review: short-form streaming in a shifting landscape
Steven Spielberg is writing a horror series you’ll only be able to at night
Quibi’s Super Bowl 2020 commercial
From The Wall Street Journal: Jeffrey Katzenberg and Meg Whitman Struggle With Their Startup—and Each Other
How Quibi imploded less than six months after launch
11 reasons why Quibi crashed and burned in less than a year
Next, we try out our as-yet-untitled debate show. The Verge’s Kevin Nguyen and Alex Cranz take on a surprisingly contentious topic: is the future of books print or digital?
The Boox Palma is an amazing gadget I didn’t even know I wanted
Kobo’s great color e-readers are held back by lock-in
From The Wall Street Journal: How the Kindle Became a Must-Have Accessory (Again)
The Playdate makes a surprisingly good e-reader
Later, producer Andru Marino answers a question from The Vergecast Hotline about a very unusual shopping situation for MP3 players.
NW-E394 Walkman Digital Music Player
Mighty’s ‘iPod shuffle for Spotify’ gets upgraded battery and Bluetooth
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Aug 2, 2024 • 1h 32min
Apple's Intelligence beta and more AI chaos
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Allison Johnson, and Victoria Song discuss Apple iOS 18.1 beta. upcoming Pixel 9 rumors, Olympics coverage, AI deepfake regulation, and more.Further reading:
The best way to watch the Olympics is on TikTok
Apple releases iOS 18.1 developer beta with the first ‘Apple Intelligence’ iPhone features
Apple’s iOS 18.1 developer beta adds AI call recording and transcription
A first look at Apple Intelligence and its (slightly) smarter Siri
Apple’s new AI features will reportedly miss the iOS 18 launch and wait for iOS 18.1.
Google Pixel 9 event: rumors and what to expect
Pixel 9’s ‘Add Me’ feature puts you in a group photo even when you’re not there
Samsung Galaxy Watch Ultra review: if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em
Samsung hypes the Galaxy Z Flip as a great police bodycam
Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber wants your next mouse to last forever
Microsoft wants Congress to outlaw AI-generated deepfake fraud
Google tweaks Search to help hide explicit deepfakes
Lawmakers want to carve out intimate AI deepfakes from Section 230 immunity
Elon Musk posts deepfake of Kamala Harris that violates X policy
The Copyright Office calls for a new federal law regulating deepfakes.
Senators will introduce the No Fakes Act to keep AI ...
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Jul 30, 2024 • 1h 2min
The history of Roku and the fight over CarPlay
Today on the flagship podcast of dedicated streaming hardware: We try out a couple of show formats we’ve been planning for a while. In Version History, we tell the story of the Roku Netflix Player, debate its legacy, and try to decide whether this thing belongs in the Version History Hall of Fame.
From Fast Company: Inside Netflix’s Project Griffin: The Forgotten History Of Roku Under Reed Hastings
From CNBC: How Roku used the Netflix playbook to rule streaming video
From CNN: Netflix Player offers PC-free movie watching
From Wired: Review: Roku Netflix Set Top Box Is Just Shy of Totally Amazing
From The New York Times: Why the Roku Netflix Player Is the First Shot of the Revolution
After that, it’s time for debates. Nilay Patel and David Pierce yell at each other about who should own the screens in your car. Are CarPlay and Android Auto the answer, the solution to universally crappy automaker software?
Car companies haven’t figured out if they’ll let Apple CarPlay take over all the screens
The rest of the auto industry still loves CarPlay and Android Auto
Everybody hates GM’s decision to kill Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for its EVs
Rivian CEO says CarPlay isn’t going to happen
Apple’s fancy new CarPlay will only work wirelessly
Later, David answers a question from The Vergecast Hotline about political spam texts.
From The Washington Post: How to stop receiving spam texts
From PCMag: Stop Robotexts: How to Block Smishing and Spam Text Messages
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Jul 28, 2024 • 36min
In search of the perfect movie recommendation
On this episode of The Vergecast, we look at why TV and movie recommendations are so complicated, and whether AI might be able to make them better. If Spotify can build infinite playlists of music you’ll like, and YouTube and TikTok always seem to have the perfect thing ready to go, why can’t Netflix or Hulu or Max seem to get it right?If you want to know more about everything we discuss in this episode, here are a few links to get you started:
Movievanders
Reelgood
The internet is a constant recommendations machine — but it needs you to make it work
Netflix’s Greg Peters on a new culture memo and where ads, AI, and games fit in
From Scientific America: How Recommendation Algorithms Work—And Why They May Miss the Mark
From Google: Multimodal prompting with a 44-minute movie
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Jul 26, 2024 • 1h 29min
Search as we know it is officially over
The Verge's Nilay Patel, David Pierce, and Jake Kastrenakes discuss OpenAI's new SearchGPT product, Amazon's plan to launch a paid version of Alexa, the Samsung Galaxy Z Fold review, and whole lot more.Further reading:
OpenAI announces SearchGPT, its AI-powered search engine
Bing’s AI redesign shoves the usual list of search results to the side
Reddit is now blocking major search engines and AI bots — except the ones that pay
Google had a massive quarter thanks to Search and AI
Amazon’s paid Alexa is coming to fill a $25 billion hole dug by Echo devices
The Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 6 is a great phone that’s out of ideas
Asus ROG Ally X review: the best Windows gaming handheld by a mile
Samsung Galaxy Ring review: keeping you in Samsung’s orbit
Apple’s first foldable iPhone could arrive in 2026
Apple Maps launches on the web to take on Google
The Disney Plus, Hulu, and Max streaming bundle is now available
Rivian CEO says CarPlay isn’t going to happen
The NBA’s new TV deals put a lot of games on Amazon’s Prime Video starting in 2025
Reddit’s NFL, NBA deals bring more sports highlights — and ads
Spotify CEO confirms a ‘deluxe’ version with hi-fi audio is coming soon
Sonos CEO apologizes for disastrous rollout of new app
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Jul 23, 2024 • 1h 16min
Inside the global computer crash
Today on the flagship podcast of configuration changes:The Verge's Tom Warren joins the show to to talk about the story and legacy of the CrowdStrike crash.
CrowdStrike and Microsoft: all the latest news on the global IT outage
Major Windows BSOD issue hits banks, airlines, and TV broadcasters
What is CrowdStrike, and what happened?
CrowdStrike’s faulty update crashed 8.5 million Windows devices, says Microsoft
CrowdStrike outage: Photos, videos, and tales of IT workers fixing BSODs
Then we talk with The Verge's Victoria Song and Zombies, Run creator Adrian Hon about making exercising fun without making it competitive and awful.
Zombies, Run
Adrian Hon’s Substack
Finally, the Apple Watch will let you rest
This walking app let me whack my co-workers with a baseball bat
Ignore your fitness tracker and walk to Mordor instead
Finally, we answer a hotline question about handheld gadgets for new parents — because there's a lot of time to kill when there's a baby around.
Backbone One review: the best mobile gaming controller yet
Handheld consoles are the future of gaming
Holedown
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Jul 21, 2024 • 39min
The all-seeing AI webcam
On this episode of The Vergecast, senior producer Will Poor explores the AI-tinged worlds of Dries Depoorter. Depoorter has built all manner of quirky and provocative installations and online experiments. There’s a clock that tells you how much of your life you’ve already lived; a phone charger that only works when your eyes are closed; a mobile chat app that you can only use when your phone has less than 5% battery.His most eyebrow-raising work, though, is around AI and surveillance. In his projects Depoorter takes publicly available webcam footage from around the world, and uses it to stalk celebrities, catch jaywalkers in the act, keep politicians honest, and generally make you wonder about your own privacy and anonymity.We talked with Depoorter about how he creates his work, how he thinks about the future of AI, and how he responds to the people who see his art and want to turn it into commerce. It’s a wild conversation, so check it out above. To see all of Dries’ work, head over to his portfolio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jul 19, 2024 • 1h 18min
Gadgets are getting weird — and so are iPhone homescreens
Nilay, Alex, and David talk about what's happening on social media — and around the web — in the wake of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump. Then they talk about their early impression of Apple's public betas, from the redesigned homescreens to the iPad's fancy new math abilities. After that, it's time for a bunch of gadgets all asking the same idea: is this anything? Then it's off to the lightning round, filled with 4K streams and leaky infinity pools.Further reading:
A custom sticker printer infuriated clients with a pro-Trump mass text message
Shooting conspiracies trend on X as Musk endorses Trump
Donald Trump likes TikTok, not Zuckerberg.
The FBI said it found the Trump rally shooter’s Steam account, then took it back
The Trump rally shooter had a Discord account, company says
The Trump rally shooting is a cash cow for the dropshippers
The FBI says it has ‘gained access’ to the Trump rally shooter’s phone
J.D. Vance likes Lina Khan and crypto, hates ‘Big Tech’
Elon Musk, Joe Lonsdale, and tech elites back a pro-Trump super PAC
Apple’s public betas: all the news on iOS 18, macOS Sequoia, and more
Apple is finally embracing Android’s chaos
iOS 18 might help you rescue photos you thought were gone forever
The watchOS 11 beta slowed me down, in a good way
RCS in iOS 18: Apple’s new messaging standard almost solves the green-button problem
Testing Math Notes and the Calculator app in iPadOS 18
Phone mirroring on the Mac: a great way to use your iPhone, but it’s still very much in beta
Canon’s long-awaited EOS R1 and R5 Mark II have eye-controlled autofocus
Dyson unmasks its super customizable OnTrac headphones
A long-delayed hands-on with Essential’s skinny Android phone
This case turns your Apple Watch into a tiny iPod
Google solves its Pixel 9 Pro leaks by just showing the phone early
Leaked photos reveal Google Pixel 9 Pro Fold
Xreal Beam Pro review: an AR tablet with good ideas but not enough power
The OnePlus Pad 2’s vibrating stylus simulates writing on paper
Sling TV adds 4K streaming for free
Comcast will have high bitrate, low latency 4K feeds of the Olympics
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman’s $27 million mansion is a ‘lemon’ with a leaky pool, lawsuit alleges
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Jul 16, 2024 • 1h 15min
Picking the perfect portable console
Today on the flagship podcast of nose bridge microphones: 03:10 - The Verge’s David Pierce enlists help from Alex Cranz and Sean Hollister to figure out the best gadget setup for his handheld gaming needs.
The Steam Deck wasn’t born ready, but it’s ready now
Nintendo Switch OLED review: screentime
Sony PlayStation Portal review: flawed but fun
Asus ROG Ally updated review: it’s a bit better now
This amazing knockoff GBA SP comes stuffed with software piracy
42:10 - Victoria Song joins the show to test out the microphones on a bunch of smart glasses and headsets.
Razer’s new Anzu smart glasses break from the pack with truly wireless audio
The Ray-Ban Meta smart glasses actually make the future look cool
Amazon’s latest Echo Frames are more style than substance
Meta Quest 3 review: almost the one we've been waiting for
Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not
01:10:26 - Later, David answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline.North Focals glasses review: a $600 smartwatch for your faceEmail us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jul 14, 2024 • 38min
Inside the AI memory machine
Humans are terrible at remembering things. On this episode of The Vergecast, we talk to one of the people who has been working on this problem for a very long time: Dan Siroker, the CEO of Limitless. We talk about what it takes to build a great memory aid, how we might use them in the future, and why it’s so tricky to get right.We also talk about the human side of it all — what does it change about our lives when we stop forgetting things? Is remembering your friend’s birthday different when it’s actually an AI model doing the remembering? And will these tools ever really work outside of work? Tools like Limitless are coming fast and improving quickly, and we’re going to have to figure out how to live with them.Further reading:
From The New York Times: Can’t See Pictures in Your Mind? You’re Not Alone.
Limitless AI: a new wearable gadget, and app, for remembering your meetings
Recall is Microsoft’s key to unlocking the future of PCs
Microsoft’s all-knowing Recall AI feature is being delayed
The Pixel 9’s ‘Google AI’ is like Microsoft Recall but a little less creepy
Apple announces iOS 18 with new AI features and more customizable homescreen
Notion AI can automatically write your notes, agendas, and blog posts for you
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