

The No Film School Podcast
No Film School
A podcast about how to build a career in filmmaking. No Film School shares the latest opportunities and trends for anyone working in film and TV. We break news on cameras, lighting, and apps. We interview leaders in screenwriting, directing, cinematography, editing, and producing. And we answer your questions! We are dedicated to sharing knowledge with filmmakers around the globe, “no film school” required.
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Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 18min
How Sundance Didn't Die
In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins and Ryan Koo bring you a special live report from the 2025 Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah. They explore the energy of the festival, highlight standout films, and dive into the journey of filmmakers who have pushed through industry challenges to bring their visions to the screen. Joining the conversation are the creators behind Didn't Die, a unique take on the zombie apocalypse that blends horror, dark humor, and indie filmmaking ingenuity.In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, NFS Founder Ryan Koo, and guests discuss:
The evolving landscape of independent cinema at Sundance and what trends are emerging in 2025
How Didn't Die offers a fresh, meta take on the zombie apocalypse through the lens of a struggling podcast host
The challenges of making an indie film with a limited budget, including DIY visual effects and multi-hat roles
Reflections on how filmmakers navigate festival submissions and distribution
The broader state of the film industry and the importance of resilience as an independent filmmaker
Memorable Quotes:
“I mean, definitely story-wise, what inspired me about working on The Walking Dead was like, my episode had a couple of different storylines that I thought were really sweet… And I think this idea of like a zombie movie that was more about finding meaning through the devastation and darkness was compelling to me.”
“It’s a zombie apocalypse, and our protagonist is still recording a podcast. It’s about holding onto what you love, even when the world is falling apart.”
“You pull favors, you adapt, and you embrace the chaos. That’s how we made this movie happen.”
Guests:
Meera Menon – Co-writer and Director of Didn't Die
Erica Fishman – Producer of Didn't Die
Paul Gleason – Co-writer and Cinematographer of Didn't Die
Resources:
Sundance 2025 Film Festival Lineup
No Film School’s Sundance 2025 Coverage
Episode: Invisible Work of Producers Plus Sundance Slate 2025
Sundance 2025: Editor Benjamin Shearn On Using Premiere Pro and Frame.io to Bring 'By Design' to Life
The VFX Secrets Behind Lush Sundance Short 'Em & Selma Go Griffin Hunting'
Bringing Mexico’s Vibrant Culture to Life in Sundance Short Film 'Susana'
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Jan 30, 2025 • 51min
‘Back in Action’ Director Seth Gordon: Get Lost in One Detail at a Time
GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman talk with Seth Gordon, the celebrated writer-director behind Back in Action, Horrible Bosses, and The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters. Seth shares the joys and challenges of creating large-scale films, balancing action and comedy, and his insights into leadership and creativity. This episode is packed with practical advice for emerging filmmakers and candid reflections on Seth’s career journey.In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and Seth Gordon discuss:
How Seth approaches directing large-scale films while staying focused on the story’s essence
Why removing distractions is key to immersing yourself in the creative process
The importance of starting with the story and building everything else around it
Balancing meticulous planning with room for spontaneity and collaboration on set
Why aspiring filmmakers should focus on creating something deeply meaningful, rather than chasing external recognition
Memorable Quotes:
“My phone is always off. I don’t even answer the phone anymore... The interruptions throw me off... What works for me is to disappear into a tiny sort of working environment and then get lost in one detail at a time.”
“Make something. Don’t make it about a film festival or about getting recognition. Make it about something you care about deeply.”
“It didn't start with a crew of 300 and dealing with the Thames river and weather in England and whatever. It started with a piece of paper and excitement about a story.”
Resources:
Seth Gordon on IMDb
Back in Action Trailer
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Jan 25, 2025 • 1h 4min
SXSW Vets Teach Rookies How to Fest
In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins sits down with filmmakers Sarah Mokh, Stephen Cedars, Benji Kleiman, and Imran J. Khan to discuss navigating the South by Southwest (SXSW) Film Festival. With insights from seasoned festival veterans, this episode offers practical advice and candid reflections on how to make the most of a festival experience, whether you’re a first-timer or a returning filmmaker.In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and guests discuss:
The importance of preparation before attending a festival and knowing how to pitch yourself and your project.
How to pace yourself and avoid burnout over the course of a week-long festival.
The value of publicists in boosting your film's visibility and managing PR.
Stories and lessons from navigating previous festivals, including Sundance and SXSW.
Audience engagement strategies to make your screenings successful.
Memorable Quotes:
Stephen Cedars: “South by Southwest is the most fun film festival in the entire world… It’s your first time, and it’ll be your only first time here.” (25:02)
Imran J. Khan: “Any movie, even a feature, is still kind of just an audition for another thing… You have to figure out what’s next and be ready to talk about it.” (17:10)
Benji Kleiman: “You need to have some talking points ready—what do you want people to say about your movie? That’s what’s going to make it into print.” (41:10)
Guests:
Sarah Mokh: Filmmaker behind Cigarettes, premiering in the SXSW Independent Pilot Competition.
Stephen Cedars: Co-director of Snatchers, a horror-comedy that premiered at SXSW.
Benji Kleiman: Co-director of Snatchers and veteran of multiple SXSW screenings.
Imran J. Khan: Director of Mustache, winner of the SXSW Audience Award.
Resources:
SXSW Film Festival Lineup
Follow I Really Love My Husband: Instagram
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Jan 15, 2025 • 20min
How Filmmakers Are Coming Together Amidst the LA Fires
The devastating wildfires in Los Angeles have shaken the film community, leading to personal stories of evacuation and emotional challenges. Filmmakers are urged to prioritize safety and mental health amidst this crisis. The power of storytelling is emphasized as a way to connect and heal during tough times. Community resilience shines through, fostering hope and collaboration among artists. Upcoming workshops aim to support creativity and emotional well-being as the industry navigates these turbulent waters.

Jan 10, 2025 • 1h 2min
How Leaving LA Led to a 40 Theater Release With a First Script
In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins speaks with the filmmakers behind two impactful films, Hazard and Studio One Forever. Writer-director Eddie Mensore shares the journey of creating Hazard, an indie drama about the opioid crisis in Appalachia, and how leaving LA led to the film's 40-theater release. Later, Marc Saltarelli discusses the acclaimed LGBTQ+ documentary Studio One Forever, exploring its historical significance and enduring legacy.In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, Eddie Mensore, and Marc Saltarelli discuss:
How Eddie’s move away from LA revitalized his career and allowed him to focus on meaningful indie films
The challenges and triumphs of making Hazard, a deeply personal story about the opioid crisis
Marc’s experience documenting LGBTQ+ history through Studio One Forever and the film’s resonance in today’s political climate
Advice for filmmakers navigating the industry outside of traditional Hollywood structures
Memorable Quotes:
“As an independent filmmaker, it’s not about what’s the most passionate project you want to make. It’s about which one can you physically make.”
“I hope that the younger generation will take a little bit of time out from TikTok and watch these 90 minutes and realize what we went through—and what’s at stake.”
“I had to take a few steps backward, I believe that I’m ultimately taking 10 steps forward.”
Resources:
Hazard Official Website
Hazard Theatrical Release
Studio One Forever Official Trailer
STUDIO ONE FOREVER is the untold story of America’s first gay disco, a kaleidoscopic excursion into LGBTQ+ history through the lens of this groundbreaking club. Directed by Marc Saltarelli, the film features interviews with Chita Rivera, Bruce Vilanch, Lance Bass, and others.
Eddie Mensore on IMDb
Marc Saltarelli on IMDb
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Jan 2, 2025 • 48min
John August Wants to Make Your (Screenwriting) Life Easier
In this episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman chat with John August, an acclaimed screenwriter, podcaster, and software developer. Known for films like Big Fish and Aladdin, as well as co-hosting Scriptnotes with Craig Mazin, John August discusses his career, the evolution of screenwriting tools, and how he's simplifying life for writers with his app, Highland.In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and John August discuss:
John’s journey from journalism major to one of Hollywood’s most recognized screenwriters
How working across different mediums—from novels to musicals—has shaped his storytelling
The philosophy behind creating Highland, a screenwriting app designed to keep writers in the flow
Practical advice for writers starting out in today’s industry
Memorable Quotes:
“Your ability to have an idea but then actually articulate the idea… to yourself, to your team, and to the audience is so fundamental and so important.”
“When I see something in the world that bothers me, I try to fix it. My instinct is to get involved and figure it out.”
“A screenplay is a luxury. You know you have about 120 pages. There are constraints, and those constraints help you figure out what’s important.”
Resources:
John August on IMDb
Highland App
Scriptnotes Podcast
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Dec 25, 2024 • 40min
James Mangold Unwraps the Craft of "A Complete Unknown"
James Mangold, the acclaimed director behind hits like Logan and Ford v Ferrari, shares his filmmaking wisdom. He discusses how to authentically portray iconic figures in his latest film, A Complete Unknown. Mangold emphasizes the value of mentorship, recalling Alexander Mackendrick's influence on him. He explores balancing preparation with the flexibility to embrace actor creativity. Additionally, he offers advice on capturing unspoken dynamics and the art of scene transitions, illustrating how effective filmmaking balances planning with spontaneity.

Dec 24, 2024 • 35min
How The ‘Los Frikis’ Directors Injected Dark Humor, History, and HIV into Their Film
In this episode of No Film School, Jason Hellerman interviews Tyler Nielsen and Michael Schwartz, the dynamic directing duo behind the bold and provocative film Los Frikis. Known for their previous success with Peanut Butter Falcon, Tyler and Michael take listeners on a journey into the making of their latest project—a darkly comedic and deeply human tale about the Los Frikis generation in 1990s Cuba. The film explores themes of rebellion, freedom, and survival, centering on punks who willfully injected HIV to escape oppression.In this episode, No Film School’s Jason Hellerman, Tyler Nielsen, and Michael Schwartz discuss:
How Tyler and Michael transitioned from Peanut Butter Falcon to Los Frikis
The challenge of balancing dark humor with historical and cultural authenticity
Why the directors learned Spanish to ensure authenticity in directing Cuban actors
Their approach to punk rock aesthetics, both musically and visually, in the film
Practical advice for filmmakers tackling deeply unconventional and emotional stories
Memorable Quotes:
“Punk rock is choosing freedom and choosing, like, your reality, regardless of the authorities or the powers that be.”
“If you task the audience with remembering 10 things, they might remember the wrong five. So we focused on the five things that mattered most.”
“We really just try to set a vibe. The vibe matches the story. And then we invite people to bring themselves to it.”
Resources:
Microbudget Workshop with GG Hawkins
Tyler Nielsen IMDb
Michael Schwartz IMDb
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Dec 19, 2024 • 1h 16min
Invisible Work of Producers Plus Sundance Slate 2025
In this special episode of No Film School, GG Hawkins and Jason Hellerman delve into the often-overlooked role of producers and the essential work they perform behind the scenes. They are joined by Emmy-nominated producer Carolina Groppa, who shares insights from her remarkable career. The episode also highlights key films from the newly announced Sundance 2025 slate, offering reflections on the festival’s evolving influence.Meet Carolina Groppa: Carolina is an Emmy-nominated producer who was previously the Executive in Charge of Production at Issa Rae’s HOORAE Media and ColorCreative. Born in São Paulo, Brazil, Carolina moved to the US as a child, and her immigrant upbringing inspired her to work hard to build the career of her dreams.Carolina produced the 2017 Emmy-nominated feature documentary AUTISM IN LOVE, which explores how adults with autism find and navigate romantic relationships. Passionate about supporting female filmmakers, she was a co-producer on Netflix’s MISS VIRGINIA, starring Uzo Aduba, and IFC’s THE FEMALE BRAIN, Whitney Cummings’ directorial debut. She was a physical producer on Amazon’s SYLVIE'S LOVE, starring Tessa Thompson and Nnamdi Asomugha, and the UPM/EP on Adamma Ebo’s 2022 Sundance hit HONK FOR JESUS. SAVE YOUR SOUL, starring Regina Hall and Sterling K. Brown.She also produced the documentaries HYSTERICAL (2020) for FX and THE HONORABLE: SHYNE (2024) for Hulu. Additionally, she is the creator, host, and producer of ANGLE ON PRODUCERS, a podcast spotlighting producers across entertainment. A love letter to the creative community, the show boasts over 95 episodes and has featured notable guests such as Eva Longoria, Stephanie Allain, Lynette Howell Taylor, and Cynthia Erivo.In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and Carolina Groppa discuss:
Carolina Groppa’s career journey, from her early days as an actor to becoming a producer and podcast host
The invisible yet critical role of producers and why their contributions are often misunderstood
Practical advice for emerging producers, including navigating challenges and building strong collaborations
Reflections on the 2025 Sundance slate, including standout films like Sorry Baby and Dead Lover
How trust and leadership shape successful filmmaking partnerships
Memorable Quotes:
“Producing is about choices. It’s never just about saying no; it’s about saying, ‘Here’s what we can do with what we have.’”
“The only thing people remember is how you made them feel on set. If you can lead with kindness and clarity, that’s what sticks.”
“Sundance is where you see the future of storytelling take shape, and this year’s slate is no exception.”
Resources:
Carolina Groppa’s Podcast: Angle on Producers
Carolina’s IMDb: Carolina Groppa
Carolina on Instagram: @carolinagroppa
Learn more about the Sundance Film Festival: Sundance 2025
Highlighted Sundance Films:
Sorry Baby: A heartfelt indie produced by Pastel, Barry Jenkins’ company
Dead Lover: Directed and written by Grace Glowicki, featuring Ben Petrie, and described as “genre-bending and unforgettable”
Lose: A poignant drama set in Hong Kong about a man searching for his daughter
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Dec 12, 2024 • 1h 27min
Lie Your Way to the Top, FYC, Festival Purgatory & the Indies
In this episode of No Film School, host GG Hawkins and tech editor Jordan Aldridge are joined by two incredible guests: filmmaker Leah Saint Marie and award-winning director Lizzy Born. The discussion delves into the challenges of navigating the indie film world, the stress of festival notification season, and creative approaches to career-building in a competitive industry. Both guests share personal stories, practical advice, and insights on how to push boundaries in filmmaking.In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins, Jordan Aldridge, Leah Saint Marie, and Lizzy Born discuss:
Leah Saint Marie’s journey from projectionist to filmmaker and her strategies for staying resilient in “festival purgatory”
The challenges of navigating FYC campaigns as an indie filmmaker
Lizzy Born’s approach to directing, from Ziwe to branded content, and how she balances dark humor with social commentary
Practical advice for emerging filmmakers, including the importance of collaboration and creating your own opportunities
The inaugural Indies Awards, celebrating independent films outside of mainstream festival circuits
Memorable Quotes:
“No one else is telling you no, except yourself. If you haven’t made a movie or written a script and you’re afraid to do it, do it anyway.” (39:44)
“This job is about community. Finding your community of people who feel like they are in the same space as you is so essential.” (1:16:32)
“Sometimes I wish I didn’t know as much... You’re going to do it in a fresh way because you don’t know what you’re referencing.” (1:19:50)
Resources:Leah’s Podcast: Pitch! A Screenwriting PodcastLeah on X (formerly Twitter): @leahwelch19Leah’s IMDb:Leah Saint MarieLizzy’s Website: Lizzy BornLizzy’s Instagram: @LizzyB0rnRead reviews of Ziwe: Variety on ZiweFind No Film School everywhere:
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