The No Film School Podcast

On our final episode of 2022, we are honored to speak to innovative cinematographer, Darius Khondji. Darius is known for his work on films such as Se7en and Amour. Today he shares what inspires him, and he also explains what it was like working on the film, Bardo: False Chronicle of a Handful of Truths. Bardo is now available on Netflix.In this episode, we talk about… Why he first fell in love with large format Loving the idea of the actor being very big on screen Deciding on what camera and lenses to use for the film  The strong connection he had with the director and the lead Being influenced by other films or works of art What seduced him the most about the story from the beginning Deciding to work on a film based on who the director is The type of genre he would love to work on Memorable Quotes “I love large format…I love working in large format. I love the actors being larger than life.” [4:42 “I love the way the camera tells the story. The presence of the characters and the presence of the landscape of this camera.” [8:43] “You have to be very careful with inspiration. Inspiration is just a fragrance.” [14:23] MentionedBardo: False Chronicle of a Handful of TruthsFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hearing stories from very experienced filmmakers is helpful, but we may miss out on relevant lessons that can only be gained from those just breaking into the industry. Today’s guest is Anne Sophie Bine, a young filmmaker who is getting attention for the first time, for her recent short. In this episode, we talk about… Being interested in stories and the visual arts since childhood Developing a close working relationship with production designer, Rick Heinrichs Feeling like you are creating things into a vacuum Why Anne attended film school, even though she was always against it The process of creating and funding her short film, Dog Lover Not getting distracted by networking and socializing Remaining open and not expecting anything in return Memorable Quotes “I kinda realized all of those things came together in film…It’s a place where it is not a disadvantage to be a jack of all trades.” [4:08] “It was necessary to have a visual imagination, a sense of story, a way with words, an understanding of performance, and an ear for music.” [4:22] “As exciting and big as those jobs were, they were in a way, taking me away from directing.” [11:34] “There’s definitely a momentum that builds there and it makes me feel like I can do it again” [20:25] “It’s kind of like dating…if you’re viewing it too much based on the end goal and objective, I think things can backfire.” [24:25] “Funding things sucks. Raising money is terrible.” [27:04] MentionedDog LoverFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today’s episode is our “End of the Year, Holiday Podcast.” We discuss an interesting, new method of marketing movies. Also, we chat about the first official protest against A.I. Finally, we explain the best way to promote your indie film at a festival.In this episode, we talk about… Entering the theater with low expectations but then being blown away Our thoughts on the film, Avatar: The Way of Water Going bonkers for behind the scenes content How A.I. has already directed a movie Why ArtStation’s protest on A.I. is important Feeling worried about the future of careers in the film industry How you should go about promoting your indie film   Memorable Quotes “It’s about the filmmaking now. The filmmaking is being advertised.” [5:14] “There’s nothing better than coming out of the theater with that adrenaline rush, with a group of people.” [23:41] “Don’t bring a baby. Don’t bring a burrito.” [27:19] “I’m 43. This is legit the first time I’m like ‘Oh fuck, this is like 80s Scifi.’” [40:49] “We’re on the downslope of the roller coaster at this point.” [42:55] “This is a mimicry of what’s happening in the country, on a wider scale.” [58:25] MentionedAvatar: The Way of WaterChatGPT AI MOVIE TWITTER THREADDefector articleArtStationFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we speak to Matthew Gentile and Matt Allen about the process of filming and editing the film, American Murderer. Matthew met Matt in film school, and invited him to collaborate on his first feature film. American Murderer is now available on Amazon Prime.In this episode, we talk about… How screenwriting and directing are different Matthew’s experience in film school Realizing he wanted to write his own screenplay Becoming obsessed with the story of the main character The things that keep you going when making your first film  Filming during the heart of the pandemic The danger in trying to stick so closely to your storyboard  Realizing you have so many elements to work with as a director Memorable Quotes “I couldn’t really find my way towards the right first feature vehicle.” [3:13] “I think it comes down to what story you want to tell first and then you figure out how to do it.” [7:34] “Before I wanted to be a filmmaker, I wanted to be a fed.” [10:31] “I started writing the script and as I wrote it, I realized, ‘this has to be the first feature.’” [12:12] “I write the first draft of the script. I think it’s amazing. I learn very quickly, it’s not.” [13:56] “That faith you have to have when you’re making your first movie, that this is going to happen.” [21:09] MentionedAmerican MurdererFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today’s episode, we discuss whether or not we care about the intent of the creator when we evaluate a film. Also, we chat about the importance of receiving advice, and we discuss why we are annoyed by streaming platforms.In this episode, we talk about… Getting in your own way as a filmmaker when trying to get the audience to change their minds about a subject How the original intent of a project can change over time Why the narrative needs to be ‘character first’ not ‘message first’ Responding to Todd Field’s remark that “advice is cheap” Why even small pieces of advice can affect your whole career Giving specific advice versus giving broad advice Why the constant changes of streaming platforms are annoying for consumers Missing the special features that came with physical movies Memorable Quotes “I’d rather somebody not intend a single thing and just be like, ‘Hey I made Speed. It doesn’t mean shit.’” [4:06] “The best movies, the best shows, the best anything, leave you talking about it or thinking about it days later.” [6:19] “Every good movie or every good tv show is about something. And it might not come to a final conclusion about that thing, but it’s about things that are bigger than just the story and that’s what makes it so rewarding.” [11:34] “I think the best creatives are able to be like ‘fuck that noise, im making a good story.’” [14:50] “When you love something, you start to see patterns that maybe aren’t there.” [15:03] “It’s gotta be earned. If you’re gonna make them change, you gotta earn it.” [22:07] “The A.I. can’t attack our Blu-rays” [48:33] Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It is great when you have the opportunity to interpret a film for yourself and decide what it means for you. Filmmaker Todd Field offers this opportunity in the film, Tár. The film takes us through an epic character study that mirrors the way we humans experience the world. Tár is in theaters and available on streaming platforms.In this episode, we talk about… Todd’s inspiration to write and direct the film Putting the character in a position of great power  How the character lives in a way that is contrary to the advice she gives others Letting the movie and music speak for itself The intent in writing the character as a real human being The very simple rules for this film What the editing and testing process was like Why Todd believes it is healthy to have differing opinions The pleasure of being the originator of the story  Memorable Quotes “My writing life has been, for the most part, in adapting material.” [2:29] “Human beings…sometimes they operate with their better angels and sometimes they’re monsters.” [12:35] “This film is about this character. It’s about having an opportunity to meet this character in different facets of their life during this period of time. A public one, a sort of professional one, and a private one.” [16:32] “The secret dream of many filmmakers is you never have to go through production. You would just go straight to the edit.” [20:03] “That’s why we make films. We want the greatest possible engagement.” [24:07] “I think being a filmmaker now is probably the most exciting thing you can possibly do.” [27:16] Mentioned in the episode:TárFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today’s episode, we discuss the 2022 Sight and Sound list of the best movies.Also, we chat about why cinema is not the all-healing tool of the universe, and we discuss the things that freak us out about A.I. technology.In this episode, we talk about… Our responses to the outrage of other filmmakers  Not caring what others think about your taste in movies Three films that promote the healing power of cinema: Empire of Light, Babylon, and The Fabelman’s Written content produced by A.I. and the misinformation that comes with it Why we need to stop lowering the bar intellectually Developing that human touch that A.I. cannot grasp Memorable Quotes  “We’re in a bubble. We’re all in bubbles.” [11:15] “We love it. We already love it. You need to do more than just tell us that it’s lovable. You need to do a little more.” [32:50] “If you aren’t watching what's happening, it’s happening so fast. We’re coming close to judgment day.” [38:16] “There’s a reason why the money people are salivating over it. There’s a very good reason why.” [51:26] “It’s a big leap forward into anti-intellectualism. It’s taking the human beauty out of what we consume and giving us this big giant hive mind.” [52:30] Mentioned in the episode:New York Times, History of Sight and SoundDid “Woke Culture” Sabotage This Best Movies Ever Poll?Empire of Light BabylonThe Fabelman’s Run Pee AppYou Will Be Impacted by A.I. Writing…Here is How Find No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today’s guest is cinematographer Ben Davis, who has worked on films like Doctor Strange, Cry Macho, and Guardians of the Galaxy. Ben shares what his process was like as the DP of the film, The Banshees of Inisherin, which is currently in theaters. In this episode, we talk about… Comparing the flexibility of a small film versus a larger film Being open to change even with a structured plan in place Capturing the idea of loneliness and isolation with cinematography Why Ben doesn’t work against the light source How they got the digital format to look like film  Choosing the color palette with director, Martin McDonagh What is was like working with Clint Eastwood in the film, Cry Macho A powerful lesson about ego Memorable Quotes “The ambition on this film was to keep it small…so that we had some sort of flexibility and we could maneuver.” [3:49] “You’re always open to change. Because that’s the delight of filmmaking, what you chance upon.” [4:40] “The great thing about this film…everyone was making the same movie and everyone was on board with it.” [6:17] “I’m never going to do it as beautifully as nature can give you.” [16:50] Mentioned in the episode:The Banshees of Inisherin Cry MachoFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

EP590 No Film School: NEW AI Tech That Blows Our Minds and How to Use Improv on SetIn today’s episode, we share our theories behind the low Thanksgiving box office numbers, our successful and unsuccessful experiences with improv, and we discuss an incredible new form of AI tech that’s got us scratching our heads in awe.In this episode, we talk about… Comparing Thanksgiving box office numbers  The big gray area of marketing Our past experiences with improv How improv is a tricky skill set but still possible to achieve Failing a ton - It makes you better and stronger Why NeRF technology will change the world of VFX The amazing uses of NeRF technology Memorable Quotes “There’s still something that happens when we watch it all finished. We don’t take into account part of the reason there are flaws.” [3:57] “I feel like something weird is going on with film marketing…on top of all the box office stuff.” [15:58] “Money is spent in such crazy, foolish ways that it’s just mind boggling.” [20:42] “Understanding the principles of ‘yes and’ will make you a better collaborator and creator, than anything else.” [25:34] Mentioned in the episode:NeRF technologyLuma AIFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are you the type of person that gets walked on or are you the bossy one, doing the walking? In this episode we discuss checking one’s ego, changes in studio executives, and the things we are grateful for, this Thanksgiving week. In this episode, we talk about… Disney bringing back a past CEO The art of managing talent relationships Thinking about things from the perspective of the studio Enjoying arguments with other filmmakers The recent collaboration between Tony Kushner and Steven Spielberg Productive disagreements and admitting when you are wrong How Charles and Todd were impersonated by criminals Memorable Quotes“You don’t go back to the old CEO. You just don’t.” [8:12]“The entertainment industry remains a relationship business.” [13:11]“Batman can be any guy and it can be any director.” [20:44]“It just looked like the general crap-fest we’ve been treated to.” [29:20]“I think the ego check gets easier, the bigger the rest of your life is.” [55:13]Mentioned in the episode:Tony Kushner Podcast EpisodeFind No Film School everywhere:On the Webhttps://nofilmschool.com/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool Twitter https://twitter.com/nofilmschool YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschoolInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschoolGet your questions answered on the podcast by emailing editor@nofilmschool.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices