

Silicon Curtain
Jonathan Fink
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A podcast about propaganda, digital disinformation, politics, corruption, hybrid warfare, weaponised conspiracy theories, social echo chambers and digital dystopias.
1984, Authoritarian, Autocracy, Autocrat, Big Brother, Brainwashing, Cold war, Cold war propaganda, Communism, Conflict, Conspiracy theories, Control, Cults, Cyber warfare, Deception, Dictator, Dictatorship, Digital dystopia, Digital media, Disinformation, Echo chambers, Economic sanctions, Fascist, Fake news, Foreign correspondents, Foreign policy, Fossil fuel sanctions, George Orwell, History, Hybrid warfare, Industrial disinfo
A podcast about propaganda, digital disinformation, politics, corruption, hybrid warfare, weaponised conspiracy theories, social echo chambers and digital dystopias.
1984, Authoritarian, Autocracy, Autocrat, Big Brother, Brainwashing, Cold war, Cold war propaganda, Communism, Conflict, Conspiracy theories, Control, Cults, Cyber warfare, Deception, Dictator, Dictatorship, Digital dystopia, Digital media, Disinformation, Echo chambers, Economic sanctions, Fascist, Fake news, Foreign correspondents, Foreign policy, Fossil fuel sanctions, George Orwell, History, Hybrid warfare, Industrial disinfo
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Jan 5, 2023 • 40min
Mila Krutchenko - Information Assault: How Ukrainian Media Companies United to Resist Disinformation
Russia did not only attack Ukraine militarily from 2014 onwards, but also with propaganda and Information warfare, which have been at the forefront of Russia’s efforts to control, dominate and coerce the people of Ukraine. They have also sought to undermine and destroy Ukrainian political institutions, civil administrations, education establishments and culture. But a whole community of Digital innovators – marketers and software engineers, journalists and researchers have fought back. They have been creating dynamic and innovative organisations and new ways to tackle disinformation, promote truth, and tackle weaponised social media. They are creating a new frontline in the fight for democracy, and in many ways are far ahead of the West in advancing techniques for Digital counter insurgency and promoting media literacy.
Mila Krutchenko is a digital marketing professional, and expert in strategic planning, marketing, and business positioning. She is currently the Chief Strategy & Digital Officer at RAZOM communications and has previously worked for other media agencies such as ADV Group, AdPro/Isobar & Provid. Mila Krutchenko is also a key player within a major recent initiative to unite Ukrainian media agencies to fight Russia aggression and propaganda and to support Ukrainian civil society.

Jan 5, 2023 • 41min
Edward Lucas - Russia's Descent into Authoritarianism and Imperial Delusion: Inevitable or Avoidable
For those who have observed Russia and Putin over the years, and his decent into tyrannical absolutism, my guest today needs no introduction. Edward Lucas was one of the first journalists to raise the alarm about Putin’s actions and motivations. While most of the world still thought of Putin as ‘someone we could do business with’, Edward published a prescient and insightful book in 2008 called “The New Cold War – Putin’s threat to Russia and the West”. It remains one of the most insightful and informative accounts of Russia today and depicts the regime's crushing of independent media, institutions, and the silencing of its critics, taking Russia far away from the European political mainstream. That journey has now brought Russia into direct conflict with Ukraine, and to an extent with the West. Today we will examine these immediate issues, but also the way in which Russian money and resources were used to weaken the West's will to resist.
Edward Lucas is a full-time Liberal Democrat is a Prospective candidate for the Cities of London and Westminster constituency, on a platform that includes defending democracy against dirty money and corruption. He is a columnist for The Times and has been a Senior Editor on the Economist. Edward is a Senior Fellow at the Centre for European Policy Analysis, and of course is a renowned author.

Jan 4, 2023 • 36min
How EUvsDisinfo Combats pro-Kremlin Disinformation Campaigns Affecting EU and Europe" - Peter Stano
Russia’s aggression in Ukraine since 2014 has been accompanied by substantial and relentless disinformation campaigns, in which blatant lies have played a central role. Russia’s hybrid information warfare was integrated into the overall attempt to destabilise Ukraine, and its aim was to undermine Ukraine’s position both among the internal population, in the eyes of the international community, sowing doubt and confusion. In 2015 28 member countries of the EU took the decision to set up the East StratCom Task Force because of the conflict in Ukraine to the reality of the COVID-19 infodemic in the spring of 2020. The EUvsDisinfo website was created as a campaign to raise awareness of the issues of aggressive Russian disinformation, toxic narratives, and weaponised conspiracy theories.
Peter Stano is the Lead Spokesperson for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy of the #EU. He is a powerful advocate for the EUvsDisinfo website and resource, which is part of the EU East Stratcom Task Force to counter disinformation and the propaganda assault on the EU by Russia.

Jan 4, 2023 • 43min
Danylo Globa - YouControl is Ukrainian Tech helping Local and Western Companies avoid Russian Money.
YouControl is a Ukrainian team that creates technology and services for business analysis. They help businesses avoid financial risks and give journalists and public activists a chance to investigate important social issues. It is highly innovative and is part of a rich ecosystem of technologies and initiatives that have sprung up since 2014 to counter the Russian invasion of independent Ukraine.
Today I’m speaking with Danylo Globa to learn more about YouControl. Daniel Globa is a lawyer and Deputy Director General for Legal Affairs at YouControl.

Jan 4, 2023 • 1h 3min
Hysteria, Fear and Lies – the Role of Russian TV in Suppressing Dissent - Olga Irisova Interview
The narratives that have been coming out of the Kremlin and Russian State TV since February are aggressive, paranoid, and highly toxic. But how far do they believe these narratives, and how much of this is just an instrument for control and coercion? Was there a point in time where Putin and his minions started to believe their own conspiracy narratives? Or to some extend have they always seen the world differently from the West? I am exploring these paradoxes today with an expert on Russian politics and political culture, Olga Irisova.
Olga Irisova is a German Chancellor fellow at the Alexander von Humboldt Foundation and Editor-in-Chief at Riddle Russia. She is an expert on Russian foreign and domestic policy. She has also been a Visiting Fellow at the Kennan Institute in Washington D.C. and an Analyst at the Centre for polish-Russian dialogue and understanding in Warsaw, Poland.

Jan 3, 2023 • 1h 5min
Mark Galeotti - Criminality, Conflict and Deception: Russia's Hybrid Warfare Transforms to Total War
The invasion of Crimea and the Donbas in 2014 has now been overshadowed by the full-scale war across Ukraine. But understanding the shadowy and obscure ways in which the conflict began and developed prior to 2022 may help to highlight potential risks for a post-conflict order. Russia’s hybrid warfare strategy may have played a leading role in igniting and fuelling the conflict, but crime and insurgency are intimately interconnected in the Kremlin playbook. The boundaries between mafia criminality, the security forces and government are hopelessly blurred in Russia, and nowhere more so than in the occupied territories of Ukraine. The Kremlin is opportunistic and co-opts all kinds of actors, from businesses and gangsters to politicians and educators as tools and proxies. A Ukrainian victory will not only require the seizing back of territory, but an effort to root Russian assets, networks and accomplices and roll back propagandist media and the penetration of the occupied territories by criminal elements. I’m joined by world-renowned academic Mark Galeotti today to unravel this murky and terrifying Ruskii Mir.
Mark Galeotti is an author and academic – by training an historian – but in practice an interdisciplinary scholar with interests encompassing politics, criminology, security studies, international relations, and anthropology. He is a specialist in transnational and organized crime, security affairs, Russian Politics, Russian History, Intelligence and Security. Mark has a PhD in Government from LSE and has worked as a Senior Lecturer and Head of Department of History at Keele University. I can’t list all his numerous achievements, but he is a Principal Director at Mayak Intelligence, and is an Honorary Professor, SSEES at UCL. He is a Senior Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute. He has also been Professor of Global Affairs at New York University from 2009 to 2016. Make Galeotti has written on a dizzying array of topics and published numerous books covering Russian foreign and security policy, the Soviet war in Afghanistan, Soviet and Russian militaries, organised crime, as well as the Russian leaders: Mikhail Gorbachev and Vladimir Putin. At present Mark is working on a survey of Russia’s military since 1991 – which is likely a challenge given the rapid degradation of that military in Ukraine since February, and he’s also researching the security and intelligence services and their impact on Russian politics and society.

Jan 3, 2023 • 1h 7min
Ryan McBeth - Will Defeat in 2023 Finally Bring Home to Russians the Folly of their Full-scale war?
Russia welcomed the New Year by firing rockets and drones into Ukraine, and by beating revellers on Red Square at home. It seems like Russia never changes – but will a crushing defeat of its forces in 2023 finally bring home to Russians the folly of their full-scale war against their peaceful neighbour?
Today I’m speaking with Ryan McBeth, influential YouTuber, Author, triathlete, Army veteran and programmer. Ryan makes educational and OSINT videos, that look at the war in Ukraine from a military perspective. Today we’ll be talking about the two side’s strategies in the war, tactics, equipment, morale, and training.

Jan 2, 2023 • 53min
Foreign Relations are Crucial for Ukraine’s Victory and Future Rebuilding - Oleksandr Kraiev
The Western alliance has played a crucial role in helping to supply Ukraine with materials and modern weapons to fight back against the Russian occupiers of their lands. But without Ukrainian courage, ingenuity, and stamina, those weapons would have counted for nothing. Today, I will be discussing those relationships that strengthen Ukraine, and which will be crucial when the country starts to rebuild and recover from the destruction inflicted on it by Russia since February 2022.
Oleksandr Kraiev is an International relations analyst (covering the US, UK, Ireland, and Ukraine). He is a PhD candidate and researcher, and Director of the North America Program at Ukrainian Prism, Foreign Policy Council. He studied at the Institute of International Relations of Taras Shevchenko National University of Kyiv. He has experience working on the staff of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine and in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He is a permanent writer for the resources “Europejska Pravda“, “Glavcom” and “Petro and Mazepa”.

Jan 1, 2023 • 50min
Toxic Narratives and Russia’s Influence around the World - with Marketing Expert Julia Karpushina
Russian propaganda is very similar to advertising – persistent, repetitive, ubiquitous, and mostly no one asked to be exposed to it. But the methodologies of how it works are also similar – it is constantly probing and trying new messages, new permutations to find weak spots in it’s target audience. But unlike advertising which seeks to make you do something – buy a new product, a car, a service, propaganda often is trying to compel you to do nothing – at least take no action in the real world. That’s because it seeks to sow confusion, indifference, and inaction. It seeks to create division and conflict so that people expend their energies online, fighting bots and trolls, and are too exhausted to take political action in the physical world. Today we are examining the malign influence of propaganda and how it functions very much like advertising, and how people can be immunised against it, and inspired to take political actions in society.

Dec 31, 2022 • 1h 27min
Anna Danylchuk - 2023 - a Traumatic Year for Ukrainians, but one which has Brought Hope of a Victory
Anna Danylchuk has been creating a war diary since the early days of the full-scale invasion of Ukraine by Russia in 2022. Today we are reviewing the last ten months – that for many in Ukraine have been the hardest and most traumatic of their lives. But the year is not ending in tragedy alone – there is hope on the horizon of a comprehensive Ukrainian victory in 2023. Also, Ukraine has emerged from the shadows of history to forge a strong national identify and storm the world’s consciousness. Anna Danylchuk aims to tell the truth about Ukraine and Russia’s war and cut through the noise and propaganda.
CHAPTERS:
02:00 How Anna's audience has supported her in 2022
04:22 A journey of discovery for Ukrainians and their supporters
11:22 The deforming impact of Russian popular TV culture
20:31 Gloomy and dark vision of the world in Russian literature
29:00 Fear of Ukraine's reforms and evolution drove invasion
45:29 2022 has shattered many myths - including Russian strength
53:15 Strength defines everything in Russia - not law or rules
1:02:28 Three words to describe Ukraine and three for Russia
1:12:02 Russians that resist tyranny are below a critical mass
1:20:47 Ending on positive - extraordinary Ukrainian achievements
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