

Destination Marketing Podcast
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is built for tourism marketers across the country who are overworked and understaffed. Our goal is to help these people prioritize the activities that are proven to be most effective in marketing a destination and stay up to date on the latest technologies and trends in the industry. This isn’t a feel-good, motivational podcast. We’re diving deep into what to do and how to do it. Subscribe today if you’re a tourism marketer and want to perfect your craft.
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Aug 30, 2022 • 33min
212: The Importance of Resident Sentiment in Destination Marketing with Dave Parulo
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam continues his trip to the Destinations International Annual Convention. In this episode, he talks with Dave Parulo, President and CEO of Visit Tualatin Valley. They discuss how Dave’s destination has utilized agriculture in their tourism marketing plan, and how tourism has been a workforce and economic development driver in their area.
"I think Covid taught us that we spend a lot of time talking about bringing visitors in and talking to them, but I think it drilled home to us, the destination management organization, that it's about the residents, resident sentiment and resident pride." -Dave Parulo
Visit Tualatin Valley
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The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.
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Aug 23, 2022 • 40min
211: Crafting an Authentic Visitor Experience with Andi Jaspersen
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam takes the show international to Toronto, Canada at the Destinations International Annual Convention. In this episode, he talks with Andi Jaspersen, experience and marketing manager at Visit Cheyenne and future PR director at Relic. They discuss her background and how living in Japan gave her a new appreciation for the hospitality industry and an understanding of the importance of the visitor experience in a destination. Learn how she is able to craft visitor experiences in her role and what advice she gives to others in the industry.
"I want to actively work with the partners in our community and make sure that they are finding ways to leverage themselves in an immersive and impactful way for the visitor." -Andi Jaspersen
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 16, 2022 • 44min
210: Solving for Yes in Bentonville, Arkansas with Kalene Griffith
Adam wraps up his trip to Arkansas in this week’s episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. He talks to Kalene Griffith, president, and CEO of Visit Bentonville, about what it’s like to be the hometown of Walmart. They also discuss how to get your community to buy into your destination organization, and why it’s important to say yes and make things happen for your stakeholders.
"We’re gonna say yes to what you need. There might be a 'yes, but' or a 'yes, and' or you may have to compromise a little bit on your vision because we can’t cater to everything. But in my view, whatever you come to us about, if we have the amenities and facilities, we’re gonna say yes to you. That is our goal." - Kalene Griffith
Visit Bentonville
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Aug 9, 2022 • 37min
209: Taking Ownership of your Destination’s Assets with Molly Rawn
Adam continues his trip to Arkansas in this week’s episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. In this episode, he talks with Molly Rawn, CEO of Experience Fayetteville, about how her organization pulled off the Cyclo-Cross World Championships and why her destination is so bike friendly. They also discuss Explore Fayetteville’s relationship to the University of Arkansas and how they collaborate to achieve success.
“We act like tourism is just in this silo and we’re our own thing but we are a part of the community. Get engaged on the city side of things.” -Molly Rawn
Experience Fayetteville
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Aug 2, 2022 • 44min
208: Destination Marketing at the State Level with Travis Napper
Adam continues his trip to Arkansas in this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. He meets with Travis Napper, director of tourism at Arkansas Tourism. They talk about what it's like to run tourism at the state level during the pandemic and how Arkansas was able to surpass expectations with visitation in 2020. They also discuss how to make a destination bike-friendly as well as what Arkansas is doing to prepare for the upcoming 2024 total solar eclipse.
"It takes two. You have to be there listening, participating, and knowledgeable about what's going on and the opportunities there. We can make lots of opportunities available but if you're not willing to listen, we will not always be able to pick up the phone and call every single partner." -Travis Napper
Tourism Arkansas
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Jul 26, 2022 • 36min
207: Making Tourism a Community Shared Value with Gretchen Hall
This week on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam continues his trip in Arkansas and meets up with Gretchen Hall, Chief Operations Officer at Destinations International. They chat about her recent move from Visit Little Rock to Destinations International and some of the things that she has learned in her new role.
“You might be a small destination or a large destination but we all have similar issues, whether that be trying to work toward becoming a community shared value, or providing tools to provide relevancy and measurement of the impact of destination organizations. We are scaling that so that all of our membership base can utilize those tools and become successful in their own communities.” -Gretchen Hall
Destinations International
The Architects of Destination Advocacy Podcast
Episode 84: Gretchen Hall - Little Rock Rock Stars
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Jul 19, 2022 • 31min
206: The Destination that Runs it All with Gina Gemberling
Adam takes the show on the road to Arkansas in this week's episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast. He meets up with Gina Gemberling, president and CEO of Little Rock Convention and Visitors Bureau, to talk about some of the things that make Little Rock's CVB unique. Hear how the destination manages hundreds of employees and several venues while still maintaining a smooth workflow.
"I think it's really important to look at the organization as a whole. Look at the talent that you have within, see what you can do with that talent, and find the strengths of the individuals that are with you." -Gina Gemberling
Little Rock
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jul 12, 2022 • 38min
205: Destination Marketing Podcast Network Highlights with Julie Sheffield
Today on the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam goes on the road and leaves producer Julie Sheffield behind to host this week's episode. She interviews four hosts from various shows on the Destination Marketing Podcast Network to find out their favorite things and unexpected results they have seen come from their shows. Stay tuned to hear the advice they have on destinations wanting to start their own podcasts.
Unexpected Adventures in North Alabama
The Inner Coastal Podcast
The Dana Point Wave
The Travel Vertical Podcast
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.

Jul 5, 2022 • 40min
204: Building a Big Bold Brand with Karley Cunningham
Join Adam in this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast to hear from Karley Cunningham, president and CEO of Big Bold Brand. Coming from outside the destination marketing world, she brings a new perspective to the table on how destinations can strengthen their brand messaging and further develop their unique brand identity.
"Measuring brand is about a long-tail equation. If you think about the end thing we want to measure, how can we work backward to measure it? We need to be connecting with our strategic partners to get answers to know what they are seeing in the industry."
-Karley Cunningham
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Jun 28, 2022 • 35min
203: Destination Storytelling with Brad Dean
In this week's episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam talks with Brad Dean, president, and CEO of Discover Puerto Rico. They discuss all things storytelling including building a lifestyle brand, owning a color on the color wheel, and how to stand out from the crowd.
"To position Puerto Rico, it's not just a great destination but a lifestyle. There's an emotional connection beyond just the travel experience. Part of the way you do that is not just by selling the beautiful places, but the beautiful faces and the stories in your destination. If we can do that, I think that creates a connection with the community that not all of us have but all of us need." -Brad Dean
Discover Puerto Rico
Open Positions at Relic
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To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.


