

Managing Violence Podcast with Joe Saunders
Joe Saunders, CPP
Since 2018, the Managing Violence Podcast has been the go-to location for unfiltered, intelligent conversations with the world’s leading experts in violence prevention, threat assessment, self-protection and protective security.
Hosted by Joe Saunders, a seasoned violence prevention professional and protective security expert, this podcast dives deep into real-world insights from criminology, psychology, BTAM, law enforcement, combative arts and security professionals.
Managing Violence is proudly #ForTheProtectors
Hosted by Joe Saunders, a seasoned violence prevention professional and protective security expert, this podcast dives deep into real-world insights from criminology, psychology, BTAM, law enforcement, combative arts and security professionals.
Managing Violence is proudly #ForTheProtectors
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Feb 25, 2021 • 44min
Lee Morrison Pt 1: Becoming a Tier 1 Civilian
Lee Morrison is the founder of Urban Combatives, a legend of the self-protection industry, and someone Geoff Thompson refers to as a "self-protection God." Lee returns to the podcast in this multi-part interview.
In Part 1 we discuss Lee's Tier 1 Civilian curriculum, preparing for worst-case scenario sudden violence, and how you can be useful in times of crisis.
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Our book of the week this week is Living in the Deep Brain by Rory Miller. You can pick up your copy here: https://geni.us/iYKc2
While you're there, grab Joe's book Neon Jungle: A Bouncer's True Tales of Lessons, Laughs and Lacerations at this link: https://geni.us/neonjungle
Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com
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Feb 17, 2021 • 56min
Trauma, Recovery, Revenge? Interview with Psychotherapist Ellis Amdur
Ellis Amdur has worked in the field of crisis intervention since 1989. He has developed a range of training and consultation services, as well as a unique style of assessment and psychotherapy. These are based on a combination of phenomenological psychology and the underlying philosophical premises of classical Japanese martial traditions. Ellis’s professional philosophy can best be summed up in this idea: the development of an individual’s integrity and dignity is the paramount virtue. This can only occur when people live courageously, regardless of the circumstances, and take responsibility for their roles in making the changes they desire.
Ellis is the author of 17 books including works on martial arts, crisis intervention, de-escalation and fiction.
In this interview, we breakdown the themes in his recent book Lost Boy which you can get here: https://geni.us/5lBOIJ
Pick up Ellis' fantastic book, Words of Power, here: https://geni.us/BAMP OUR
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BOOK OF THE WEEK: Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss - Get it here! https://geni.us/0g9hxs4
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Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com
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Feb 10, 2021 • 51min
Scenario Training: Riots, interrogations, courtrooms and more with Duncan Andrews
Duncan Andrews runs arguably the world's finest and most comprehensive scenario-training programmes for self-protection enthusiasts. Everything from live situational awareness training, to combative application, then interrogation for government trained interrogators and a mock trial with a real barrister! You can't get more real than this without risk to your freedom.
A former riot police officer, operational skills trainer, soldier and more, Duncan Andrews is a beast of a man and has an incredibly cerebral approach to training.
Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com
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Feb 4, 2021 • 58min
Ancient Wisdom, Modern Application with Lawrence Kane
Lawrence Kane is a prolific martial arts author with 20 books to his credit including titles on how to teach martial arts, how to survive real violence and the finer points of karate. In his most recent book, he has teamed up with Kris Wylder to dissect the classic Art of War by Sun Tzu and provide a modern commentary and dissection of each of line of the immortal general's work.
Pick up a copy of the book here: https://geni.us/nVZMG
While you're at it, grab a copy of Joe's new book, Neon Jungle, here: https://geni.us/neonjungle
As always, bonus content is available on our Patreon at www.patreon.com/managingviolence
Listen to this interview on your podcast platform of choice, all links available here: www.violencepod.com
Enjoy the show and would like to send Joe a tip? This is the place: www.buymeacoffee.com/joemvp
If you're interested in booking Joe to speak or teach your group, head on over here: https://www.violencepod.com/p/seminars/

Jan 26, 2021 • 53min
From selling drugs to the Hall of Fame - Willie Johnson‘s story of redemption through martial arts
Willie "the Bam" Johnson is a Black Belt Magazine Hall of Fame martial artist, a 7th degree black belt in karate and a 5th degree black belt in Wushu Kung Fu. However, his story started very differently.
Born in a poor neighbourhood to a disabled mother, Willie spent time between tournaments selling drugs and running the street. A pivotal moment while incarcerated turned his life around and he's spent the last 30 years giving back to the community he came from. This is a raw, emotional and powerful story you shouldn't miss.
Learn more about Willie at www.pointmma.com.au
Pick up a copy of his book here: https://geni.us/AsagT
While you're at it, grab a copy of Joe's new book, Neon Jungle, here: https://geni.us/neonjungle
As always, bonus content is available on our Patreon at www.patreon.com/managingviolence
Listen to this interview on your podcast platform of choice, all links available here: www.violencepod.com
Enjoy the show and would like to send Joe a tip? This is the place: www.buymeacoffee.com/joemvp
If you're interested in booking Joe to speak or teach your group, head on over here: https://www.violencepod.com/p/seminars/

Jan 20, 2021 • 57min
Debi Steven - Gender Based Violence
My guest on episode 73 is Director of Actions Breaks Silence, Debi Steven. Debi is an experienced martial artist and martial business-woman with a passion for ending gender-based violence. She runs the amazing not-for-profit to equip women and girls with self-protection skills in Africa and India, as well as teaching boys and young men how to develop ”Hero Empathy” and to be an active bystander.

Jan 13, 2021 • 54min
Mary Stevens - Protecting the Most Vulnerable Women in the World
"These girls live in the worst place in the world to be female."
My guest on Episode 72 of the Managing Violence Podcast is Mary Stevens from the UK.
Mary began karate in 2003 at the late age of 31. Her son was being bullied so she enrolled him and then took the chance to begin herself. She went on to become obsessed with the study of self-protection (separate from karate) and founded her own dojo, Athena School of Karate. Mary is also a project manager and adviser to FairFight, helping to equip vulnerable young women in Varanasi, India, which we will talk about at length.
Support people doing world-changing work. Thank you Mary!
Check out bonus content from Mary on our Patreon on www.patreon.com/managingviolence

Dec 11, 2020 • 1h 16min
71: LIVE with Richard Dimitri talking about Bruce Lee, Jeet Kune Do and personal evolution
In this interview, Rich and I dissect and react to Bruce Lee's classic 1971 article "Liberate Yourself From Classical Karate" which was his JKD manifesto. We discuss Bruce's immense impact on both our lives and the martial arts world as a whole, and the importance of growth and evolution in individuals and systems.
Make sure you check out this episode on our website: www.violencepod.com
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Thanks for listening.
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Nov 19, 2020 • 1h 11min
Lessons Learned from Two Years of Conversations with Leading Minds in Violence
In this special two-year anniversary episode, I break down the 21 key lessons I have taken from over 150 hours of conversation with the world‘s leading experts in self-protection and violence management.

Nov 10, 2020 • 1h 24min
Randy King on Self-Defense for Regular People LIVE INTERVIEW!
In this LIVE conversation with Randy King, we chat about what regular people need to know to keep safe, how Randy‘s professional focus has shifted in this direction, and how we need to educate our communities about what‘s truly important when it comes to staying safe from conflict and violence.


