

Sons of Patriarchy
Peter Bell & Sarah Bader
What happens when biblical patriarchy, christian nationalism, and a theology of authority and submission become the pillars of a movement? Scores of abuse stories in marriages, schools, churches, families, and more. Though these ideas have filtered throughout the United States for decades, they found a home in Moscow, Idaho, through the ministry and work of Doug Wilson. From there, they have influenced churches across the United States, and across the world.
In this series, you'll hear from experts on all aspects of these movements, and the stories of abuse from those who survived. Some are Christian, some are not, but one thing they've got in common?
They're finally speaking out.
This is their story.
In this series, you'll hear from experts on all aspects of these movements, and the stories of abuse from those who survived. Some are Christian, some are not, but one thing they've got in common?
They're finally speaking out.
This is their story.
Episodes
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Nov 3, 2025 • 1h 39min
Racism, Deception, and Anti-Semitism in Modern Day Christian Nationalism
Join Paul Miller, a Georgetown professor focusing on Christian nationalism, investigative author Katherine Stewart, political scientist Napp Nazworth, and ethicist Russell Moore as they dissect the complex roots and consequences of Christian nationalism. They explore how cultural changes fuel its rise, the strategic infiltration of public institutions, and the alarming anti-democratic calls from its supporters. The guests also discuss the influence of wealthy donors, the transformative impact on the Republican Party, and hopeful ways to counter authoritarianism.

Nov 1, 2025 • 38sec
NO HUNGER NOVEMBER
This discussion kicks off with a heartfelt initiative to combat hunger in Idaho. The hosts promote a community food drive designed to support those facing food scarcity as the holidays loom. Listeners are encouraged to participate in the online fund drive competition benefiting the Idaho Foodbank. It's a rallying call for action, emphasizing the importance of community support during tough times. Keep an eye on their social media for updates and ways to get involved!

Oct 30, 2025 • 1h 45min
The Illegal and Unethical Business Practices of the CREC
Hayley McCord, a former New Saint Andrews student, shares her harrowing experiences with family and institutional abuse in patriarchal church circles. An anonymous insider discusses the suffocating culture of Christ Church, where questioning leadership leads to ostracism. Another anonymous wife recounts her distressing courtship, highlighting abuses and dismissals by church leadership. All guests reflect on the profound trauma and loss of faith stemming from coercive practices and the façade of community, issuing urgent warnings to potential members.

Oct 27, 2025 • 1h 36min
The Civil War, Moral Majority, and Modern Day Christian Nationalism
Join Dr. Michael McVicar, a specialist in Christian Reconstruction, Dr. Julie Ingersoll, who delves into evangelical movements, and Dr. Jerome Kopolsky, a scholar of religion and politics, as they unpack the evolution of Christian nationalism. They discuss the striking differences between Reconstructionism and modern Christian nationalism, the role of education in spreading these ideologies, and how patriarchal structures persist. Insights on the long-term goals of these movements and the interplay of various ideological forces make for a compelling dialogue.

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Oct 23, 2025 • 2h 14min
"The Women of Christ Church Moscow Are Being Abused and Used"
An anonymous survivor opens up about her painful childhood in the CREC community, detailing grooming, boundary violations, and the long-lasting impact of abuse. Teresa Smith reveals shocking revelations of sexual abuse in her ex-husband’s family and criticizes the church's inadequate response. Nathan and Christiana Wells discuss their critiques of the church's treatment of dissenters and the perilous culture of silence surrounding abuse. Together, they emphasize the necessity for accountability and the importance of supporting survivors.

Oct 20, 2025 • 1h 31min
The REAL History of Christian Nationalism
In this discussion, Kevin Vallier, a philosophy professor focused on political thought, and Jerome Copulsky, a research fellow exploring historical religious influences, delve into the roots of nationalism. Vallier examines Catholic integralism and its distinction from Christian nationalism, challenging its coherence and implications for non-Christians. Copulsky uncovers the founders' intentions regarding religion, arguing for a pluralistic constitutional framework. Together, they analyze how these ideologies have evolved and their impact on modern politics.

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Oct 18, 2025 • 1h 2min
Sin and Spanking in "Christian" Parenting
We are re-airing Season 1 with all the interest in Christian Nationalism and Doug Wilson. This gives us the time to reformat and relaunch Sons of Patriarchy with our BIGGEST NEWS YET in 2026! Media inquiries: https://www.sonsofpatriarchy.com/contact Patreon: patreon.com/sonsofpatriarchy Website: sonsofpatriarchy.com Donate: https://donorbox.org/sons-of-patriarchy Link to pre-order bonuses: https://tinyurl.com/3z4jdtsb Link to download of the introduction and first chapter: https://tinyurl.com/mwnssprc Marissa Franks Burt (MA in Theological Studies, Columbia International University) is a novelist, editor, teacher, and cohost of the At Home with the Lectionary and In the Church Library podcasts. She lives in a small town in Washington's Snoqualmie Valley with her husband, six children, and heaps of books. Kelsey Kramer McGinnis (PhD, University of Iowa) is a musicologist, educator, and correspondent for Christianity Today, writing on worship practices and Christian subculture. She is an adjunct professor at Grand View University in Des Moines and previously worked at the University of Iowa Center for Human Rights. The book is available for pre-order across platforms: https://tinyurl.com/2tcvf7ur Find the book on Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/2tcvf7ur Order from Baker for guaranteed release day delivery: https://tinyurl.com/bdy23p63 Bookshop book link: https://tinyurl.com/mtah5k4t Audible link: https://tinyurl.com/2p8yn4py Marissa's Social Profiles: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mburtwrites/ Threads: https://www.threads.com/@mburtwrites Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mburtwrites/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/mburtwrites.bsky.social TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mburtwrites Substack: https://substack.com/@mburtwrites YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDDTpI4RUeRX2R1eM5R6-oA Website: https://www.marissaburt.com Kelsey's Social Profiles: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelseykmcginnis/ Threads: https://www.threads.com/@kelseykmcginnis Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kelsey.kramermcginnis Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/kkramermcginnis.bsky.social TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kelseykmcg?lang=en Substack: https://substack.com/@kelseykramermcginnis In the Church Library podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-church-library/id1804968736 Sons of Patriarchy is brought to you by: Producer, Writer, Editor, and Host: Peter Bell Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: https://aaronfeeneymusic.com/ Social Media: Sarah Bader Graphic Design: Anonymous Survivors SURVIVORS - THANK YOU, AND MAY YOU BE HEARD.

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Oct 16, 2025 • 2h 5min
Abuse Cover-Up at New Saint Andrews
Tony Baker, former COO at New Saint Andrews College, shares his shocking insights into the mishandling of abuse reports and a culture of silence. He recounts troubling incidents, including neglected background checks and discouraged reporting to protect leadership. Callie Cole reveals her journey through the emotional turmoil of growing up in Christ Church, highlighting institutional cover-ups and the pressure of strict gender roles. Both guests urge listeners to be cautious about community and relationships, advocating for awareness and personal intuition in seeking support.

Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 25min
The New York Times and Doug Wilson
Doug Wilson, a Reformed pastor from Idaho, faces scrutiny as clips from his New York Times interview with Ross Douthat spark intense discussion. The hosts break down Wilson's take on Christian nationalism and the enforcement of the Ten Commandments, critiquing his vague definitions. They probe Wilson's views on marital dowry, political rights for women, and physical coercion, all while addressing the implications of his rhetoric. The conversation highlights media's role in covering survivor stories and critiques the intersection of Christianity and political ambition.

Oct 13, 2025 • 1h 4min
What is Doug Wilson's Particular Brand of Christian Nationalism?
In this discussion, Doug Wilson, a prominent pastor known for his Christian nationalist perspectives, explains his belief that a state without God becomes idolatrous. He argues for a national framework based on Christian principles and contemplates the exclusion of non-Christians from political office. Keely Emerine-Mix, a local critic of Wilson, shares firsthand accounts of the negative impacts his movement has had in Moscow, urging for support for those affected. The tension between national identity and Christian values takes center stage as their contrasting views unfold.


