

Noggin Notes Podcast
Jake Wiskerchen
Noggin Notes aims to educate and enrich your noggin about mental illness and wellness. Conversations range from factual and data-based to theoretical and idea-based. We welcome your input at info@nogginnotes.com or info@zephyrwellness.org. Noggin Notes is not intended as a substitute for professional counseling but we really do hope you can adopt and use some of what we share in order to improve your own life and to seek peace and wellness every day.
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Apr 1, 2026 • 1h 21min
Leslie Elliott Boyce on Counseling Education, Graduate Schools, and Ideological Bias in Mental Health
In this insightful episode, we sit down with Leslie Elliott Boyce, an independent coach and consultant with a background in clinical mental health counseling, to explore how the counseling profession has evolved—and how graduate education has played a central role in shaping it.
Leslie, co-founder of Solid Ground and host of The Radical Center, brings a thoughtful and balanced perspective to the conversation, examining how training programs, academic frameworks, and institutional cultures influence the way therapists are taught to think, practice, and engage with clients.
In this episode, we explore:
How graduate schools shape the counseling profession
The role of ideological bias in education and psychology
What emerging therapists are (and aren’t) being prepared for
Why intellectual diversity and open dialogue matter in training clinicians
How we can move toward a more balanced, grounded future in mental health care
This episode is for clinicians, students, educators, and anyone interested in understanding the systems behind therapy—and how they impact both practitioners and the people they serve.
🎧 Explore more of Leslie’s work:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theradicalcenter
Website: https://theradicalcenterconsulting.com/
Mental health conditions, such as depression or anxiety, are real, common and treatable. And recovery is possible. To take your Free Mental Health screening visit https://walkthetalkamerica.org/ or click the following link.
TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH TEST
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Jan 31, 2026 • 1h 20min
Conservative Counselors: Soad Tabrizi on Restoring Integrity, Truth, and Balance in Mental Health
In this timely and necessary conversation, we speak with Soad Tabrizi, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with over 15 years of clinical experience and the founder of Conservative Counselors—a growing directory connecting clients with reality-based therapists who reject ideological capture in mental health.
Together, we explore what the term “Conservative Counselors” actually means, why it has emerged, and why it matters in today’s therapeutic landscape. Soad explains how increasing ideological pressure within the counseling profession has left many clinicians and clients feeling unseen, unheard, or silenced—and why intellectual diversity and moral courage are essential for ethical, effective therapy.
In this episode, we discuss:
What defines a Conservative Counselor (and what it does not)
How ideology has shaped modern therapy culture
Why clients are actively seeking therapists grounded in realism, truth, and personal responsibility
The risks of ideological conformity for both clinicians and mental health outcomes
How restoring balance, integrity, and open inquiry can strengthen the profession
Soad writes on Substack and for Human Events, where she unapologetically argues that conservative clinicians not only belong in mental health—but play a vital role in its future. Her work centers on truth, courage, and protecting the therapeutic space as one of genuine inquiry rather than indoctrination.
This episode is for clinicians, clients, students, and anyone concerned with the future of mental health care and the importance of preserving therapeutic neutrality, honesty, and human dignity.
Mental health conditions, such as depression or anxiety, are real, common and treatable. And recovery is possible. To take your Free Mental Health screening visit https://walkthetalkamerica.org/ or click the following link.
TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH TEST
We hope you enjoy this episode.
Today’s show is brought to you by Audible and Zephyr Wellness. Audible is offering our listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership.
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Nov 24, 2025 • 1h 4min
Nervous System Leadership: Ann de Passos on Polyvagal Theory, Somatic Practice, and Resilient Teams
In this returning conversation, we welcome back Ann de Passos, leadership consultant, coach, and facilitator who specializes in nervous system–informed leadership. Drawing on 15+ years across charity, corporate, and social enterprise sectors, Ann guides leaders and teams to operate from clarity, relational intelligence, and embodied resilience.
We take a deep dive into the nervous system and Polyvagal Theory to answer a simple but powerful question: How do we learn to be human? Ann explains why understanding the body’s wiring is the essential first step to changing how we lead, communicate, and respond under pressure. Topics include:
The basics of Polyvagal Theory and why the nervous system shapes behavior at work
Somatic practices leaders can use to reduce burnout and recover faster from stress
Systems thinking + emotional intelligence: designing cultures that sustain people and performance
Practical tools for strengthening team connection, psychological safety, and values-led decision making
If you’re a leader, manager, coach, or anyone who wants to lead from steadiness instead of reactivity, this episode offers grounded science, practical exercises, and real-world strategies to build healthier, high-performing organisations.
Mental health conditions, such as depression or anxiety, are real, common and treatable. And recovery is possible. To take your Free Mental Health screening visit https://walkthetalkamerica.org/ or click the following link.
TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH TEST
We hope you enjoy this episode.
Today’s show is brought to you by Audible and Zephyr Wellness. Audible is offering our listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership.
Just go to www.audibletrial.com/9WOGmy and browse the unmatched selection of audio programs – download a title free and start listening..
If you have any questions or request send us a message at info@nogginnotes.com / info@zephyrwellness.org
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Nov 3, 2025 • 1h 8min
Brant Elwood: Mythic Archetypes, Group Unconscious, and the Psychology of Organizations
In this deep, mythic conversation, we welcome Brant Elwood, author of Gods, Heroes and Groups: Relational Dynamics through Mythic Archetypes and an MA in social-organizational psychology. Brant blends mythopoetic lineage with practical organizational insight to reveal the unconscious dynamics that govern how groups behave — in communities, workplaces, and treatment settings.
We explore:
How mythic archetypes (gods, heroes, tricksters) show up in group roles and organizational life
Rites of passage work with young men during the pandemic and what that revealed about leadership, belonging, and responsibility
The group unconscious — patterns we enact without awareness and how they shape decision-making, conflict, and culture
Practical ways leaders and community members can be mindful of their roles so they don’t unconsciously repeat damaging patterns
Why integrating mythic thinking helps organizations surface the undiscussed and rediscover healthier relational dynamics
This episode is for leaders, therapists, organizational consultants, and anyone curious about the hidden stories that run our groups. Brant’s approach offers a poetic but practical map for recognizing the forces that shape group life — and for acting with conscious intention instead of falling into unconscious roles.
Mental health conditions, such as depression or anxiety, are real, common and treatable. And recovery is possible. To take your Free Mental Health screening visit https://walkthetalkamerica.org/ or click the following link.
TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH TEST
We hope you enjoy this episode.
Today’s show is brought to you by Audible and Zephyr Wellness. Audible is offering our listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership.
Just go to www.audibletrial.com/9WOGmy and browse the unmatched selection of audio programs – download a title free and start listening..
If you have any questions or request send us a message at info@nogginnotes.com / info@zephyrwellness.org
Hope you enjoy the podcast and please go ahead subscribe and give us a review of our show. You can write a review on iTunes.

Oct 27, 2025 • 49min
Free Speech & Therapy: Dr. Chloe Carmichael
In this timely episode, Dr. Chloe Carmichael — clinical psychologist, USA Today bestselling author of Nervous Energy, and longtime educator — returns to Noggin Notes to explore why free speech matters in therapeutic settings and how self-censorship can damage both therapists and clients.
We dig into the practical and ethical stakes: how open dialogue supports accurate diagnosis, trust, and psychological growth; how fear of controversy or professional consequences leads clinicians to self-censor; and the downstream mental-health costs when people (therapists or clients) silence honest thought and feeling. Dr. Chloe draws on clinical experience, research, and her work teaching clinicians to explain why courageous, curious conversation is often central to healing — and how constricted speech can worsen anxiety, shame, and isolation.
Whether you’re a clinician, student, or someone seeking therapy, this conversation is an urgent, compassionate case for protecting honest speech in the therapy room — and for noticing how self-silencing affects mental health in everyday life.
Mental health conditions, such as depression or anxiety, are real, common and treatable. And recovery is possible. To take your Free Mental Health screening visit https://walkthetalkamerica.org/ or click the following link.
TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH TEST
We hope you enjoy this episode.
Today’s show is brought to you by Audible and Zephyr Wellness. Audible is offering our listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership.
Just go to www.audibletrial.com/9WOGmy and browse the unmatched selection of audio programs – download a title free and start listening..
If you have any questions or request send us a message at info@nogginnotes.com / info@zephyrwellness.org
Hope you enjoy the podcast and please go ahead subscribe and give us a review of our show. You can write a review on iTunes.

Sep 15, 2025 • 1h 18min
The Anti-Feminist Psychiatrist: Dr. Hannah Spier on Flawed Psychology, Women, Men, and Mental Health
In this thought-provoking episode, we talk with Dr. Hannah Spier, Norwegian psychiatrist and creator of Psychobabble—a hybrid podcast and publication that challenges flawed psychology and exposes the therapists and cultural trends harming mental health.
Dr. Spier, who trained in Cognitive Behavioral Psychotherapy at the University of Zurich, takes a critical look at how psychiatry has become dominated by ideological influences, often leaving behind the real needs of patients—both men and women.
We explore:
How psychiatry has been shaped by feminist and postmodern ideas
Why these cultural shifts affect the way men and women experience therapy
The overlooked challenges of women in modern psychiatry
The current crisis in boys and masculinity, and why balance in mental health care matters
How Psychobabble is reframing the conversation about integrity, tradition, and truth in psychiatry
With features in The Federalist, Commentary Magazine, The American Spectator, and Mad in America, Dr. Spier is becoming a leading voice in pushing back against the cultural and ideological capture of psychiatry—offering a grounded, values-driven approach to care.
Mental health conditions, such as depression or anxiety, are real, common and treatable. And recovery is possible. To take your Free Mental Health screening visit https://walkthetalkamerica.org/ or click the following link.
TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH TEST
We hope you enjoy this episode.
Today’s show is brought to you by Audible and Zephyr Wellness. Audible is offering our listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership.
Just go to www.audibletrial.com/9WOGmy and browse the unmatched selection of audio programs – download a title free and start listening..
If you have any questions or request send us a message at info@nogginnotes.com / info@zephyrwellness.org
Hope you enjoy the podcast and please go ahead subscribe and give us a review of our show. You can write a review on iTunes.

Sep 8, 2025 • 1h 26min
Rachel Haack on Women in the Second Half of Life: Challenges, Resilience, and Relationships
In this inspiring conversation, we sit down with Rachel Haack, Marriage and Family Therapist Intern, mother of five daughters, and passionate advocate for women navigating the second half of life.
Together, we take a deep dive into the unique struggles women face during this stage—challenges that are often overlooked or minimized in mainstream discussions.
Rachel shares her insights on:
The emotional and relational challenges of women in their second half of life
How women balance supporting families, communities, and themselves
Strategies for navigating conflict between parents and adult children with compassion and skill
Why strengthening relationships is the key to resilience and fulfillment
With honesty, optimism, and warmth, Rachel highlights both the struggles and the strengths of women in midlife and beyond.
Whether you’re a woman living this reality, a family member, or a professional supporting others, this episode shines a much-needed light on a vital stage of life that deserves more attention and care.
Mental health conditions, such as depression or anxiety, are real, common and treatable. And recovery is possible. To take your Free Mental Health screening visit https://walkthetalkamerica.org/ or click the following link.
TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH TEST
We hope you enjoy this episode.
Today’s show is brought to you by Audible and Zephyr Wellness. Audible is offering our listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership.
Just go to www.audibletrial.com/9WOGmy and browse the unmatched selection of audio programs – download a title free and start listening..
If you have any questions or request send us a message at info@nogginnotes.com / info@zephyrwellness.org
Hope you enjoy the podcast and please go ahead subscribe and give us a review of our show. You can write a review on iTunes.

Aug 25, 2025 • 1h 8min
Mark L. Ruffalo on the Future of Psychotherapy: Beyond Symptoms to the Human Psyche
Mark L. Ruffalo, M.S.W., D.Psa., a seasoned psychoanalytic psychotherapist and professor, shares his extensive insights into the depths of human psychology. He discusses the limitations of quick-fix approaches for severe conditions like schizophrenia and borderline personality disorder, advocating for a return to comprehensive psychoanalysis. Mark also explores the historical shifts in psychiatric training, the implications of the DSM-III, and the role of medication versus therapy. His perspective challenges clinicians to prioritize understanding over mere symptom management.

Aug 11, 2025 • 1h 27min
Jonathan Cogburn on Systemic Theory, Family Structures, and Supporting Homeless Youth
On today’s show, we sit down with Jonathan Cogburn, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist based in Abilene, Texas, whose work bridges deep compassion with practical solutions. Jonathan currently serves in an education support agency, coaching school counselors in small and remote districts to navigate complex student needs—especially when community resources are scarce. He also trains school staff to identify and support students experiencing homelessness, bringing awareness and actionable strategies to a critical yet often overlooked issue.
With a diverse background spanning private clinical practice, suicide crisis intervention, community mental health case management, and hospice chaplaincy, Jonathan brings a rich, systems-based perspective to understanding human relationships. In this episode, we explore how Systems Theory applies to families and family structures, unpack the challenges facing homeless youth, and discuss the interconnected nature of mental health, education, and community support.
Follow Jonathan on X: @cognoggin
Mental health conditions, such as depression or anxiety, are real, common and treatable. And recovery is possible. To take your Free Mental Health screening visit https://walkthetalkamerica.org/ or click the following link.
TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH TEST
We hope you enjoy this episode.
Today’s show is brought to you by Audible and Zephyr Wellness. Audible is offering our listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership.
Just go to www.audibletrial.com/9WOGmy and browse the unmatched selection of audio programs – download a title free and start listening..
If you have any questions or request send us a message at info@nogginnotes.com / info@zephyrwellness.org
Hope you enjoy the podcast and please go ahead subscribe and give us a review of our show. You can write a review on iTunes.

Jul 16, 2025 • 1h 38min
Courage Over Conformity: Suzannah Alexander on Reforming Counseling Education and Reclaiming Integrity
In this bold and thought-provoking episode of Noggin Notes, Jake speaks with Suzannah Alexander, a writer, reformer, and former counseling student who made waves by stepping away from graduate school after facing ideological coercion in her program.
Suzannah opens up about the emotional and professional toll of navigating a counseling program that conflicted with her values—and how that experience inspired her to take action. Today, she collaborates with lawmakers, policy organizations, and advocacy groups to reform counseling education and licensure. Her mission: to restore integrity, transparency, and true academic freedom in a profession that is increasingly shaped by political ideology.
They explore:
Why Suzannah left her graduate counseling program
How accreditation bodies and training institutions shape what future therapists are taught
The risks of compelled speech and ideological conformity in mental health education
What real reform could look like—and how we can get there
Suzannah’s work has been featured in Minding the Campus, cited in policy reforms, and is gaining momentum among those concerned about the direction of mental health education.
Whether you’re a student, therapist, educator, or simply curious about the future of mental health care, this episode is a must-listen.
👉 Find Suzannah’s writing and advocacy at diogenesinexile.com and follow her on X https://walkthetalkamerica.org/ or click the following link.
TAKE A MENTAL HEALTH TEST
We hope you enjoy this episode.
Today’s show is brought to you by Audible and Zephyr Wellness. Audible is offering our listeners a free audiobook with a 30-day trial membership.
Just go to www.audibletrial.com/9WOGmy and browse the unmatched selection of audio programs – download a title free and start listening..
If you have any questions or request send us a message at info@nogginnotes.com / info@zephyrwellness.org
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