

Water Values Podcast
Dave McGimpsey
The Water Values Podcast series is presented in collaboration with Bluefield Research. This podcast series explores water issues from a variety of perspectives with the goal of uncovering the true value of water. Each episode will delve into one aspect of water, such as water utilities, water treatment, water resources, water reuse, and more.
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Aug 17, 2021 • 36min
No Community Left Behind with Water Finance Exchange’s Brent Fewell
Brent Fewell of the Water Finance Exchange shares the story of why the Water Finance Exchange was established and how it aims to serve the significant need for water infrastructure funding in the market.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
What the Water Finance Exchange isWhy the Water Finance Exchange was foundedHow the Water Finance Exchange is fundedBrent’s view on why communities have not been proactive in seeking water infrastructure fundingBrent’s thoughts on how the Water Finance Exchange might fit into the infrastructure billCriteria for Water Finance Exchange fundingHow Water Finance Exchange aims to help build utilities of the futureBrent’s observations on “water cooperatives”Why communities need to be open to change from a water funding perspectiveBrent’s thoughts on regionalization
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Brent’s LinkedIn PageWater Finance Exchange’s website

Aug 3, 2021 • 44min
An Exit Interview with Jeffrey Kightlinger
Jeffrey Kightlinger provides an excellent interview offering profound thoughts on the water industry that was recorded during the waning days of his 15-year tenure as the General Manager of the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California. Plus, Reese Tisdale of Bluefield Research comes on for Bluefield on Tap to discuss how population shifts might impact the water sector.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Why Jeff decided to retire from Metropolitan at this juncture
Jeff’s perspective on what makes a good water leader
Where the gaps in water leadership are and whether they’re being filled
The advice Jeff received when he began his tenure at Metropolitan
Whether Jeff heeded that advice
How has the GM position changed during his tenure
Jeff’s biggest surprises in dealing with water issues
Jeff’s proudest accomplishments during his years at Metropolitan
What Jeff wishes had worked out differently
Jeff’s public words of advice for his successor, Adel Hagekhalil
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Jeff’s LinkedIn Page
Jeff’s Twitter handle: @8thGenCA
Other exit interviews: Verde Exchange (Part 1 and Part 2) and org
TWV #133: Resiliency and Regionalism in Southern California with Metropolitan’s Jeffrey Kightlinger
TWV #142: Los Angeles’ Approach to Infrastructure with Adel Hagekhalil
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Jun 15, 2021 • 34min
Water Quality in the Cloud with Neno Duplan
Locus Technologies founder and CEO Neno Duplan provides a wealth of experience on water quality in the cloud. Neno began cloud-based data work before any of us knew what the cloud even was. He does a great job explaining the steps needed to undertake and the significant benefits of a cloud-based digital transformation, and much more!
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Neno’s background and start in the nuclear sector consulting on cooling waterNeno’s perspective on water quality data and the cloudThe digital transformation from spreadsheets to local data bases to the cloudThe one advantage that utilities still keeping data on spreadsheets haveNeno’s advice on getting started with data collection and validationThe cross-functional benefits of using cloud-based dataThe benefits of cloud-based data in regulatory reporting and strategic decision makingWhat utilities can be doing now from a data collection standpoint to prepare for future regulationWhy cloud-based and validated data aids utilities in regulatory reportingWhere Neno thinks the future of water liesHow blockchain fits into the water quality regulation
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Neno’s LinkedIn PageLocus Technologies’ websiteNews Release: US EPA Establishes New Council on PFAS
Thank You!

Jun 1, 2021 • 44min
Synthetic Aperture Radar and Its Fascinating Applications in the Water Sector with James Perry
James Perry of Utilis joins us to discuss Synthetic Aperture Radar and its many and varied applications in the water sector. James provides a wealth of information about how the technology developed to its cost-effective use and application in the water sector. Plus, Reese Tisdale of Bluefield Research provides more water industry insights on the California drought and how utilities are bringing climate adaptation experience learned in California to other regions of the United States.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Jim’s background in big public companies and start-upsWhat synthetic aperture radar (SAR) isHow SAR worksHow SAR can find the “underground signature” of waterHow SAR mapping can help identify where leaks occur in a water systemThe types of leaks SAR mapping can identify, from slow drips to large main breaksHow SAR mapping allows system surveys to allow utilities to target problem leak areasUtilis’ experience as to where the infrastructure is leaking (mains, service lines, meters, hydrants, valves, etc. – the answer might surprise you)Additional uses for SAR like alternative supply locations, soil moisture monitoring, earthen dam monitoring, wastewater leakage, and much moreHow utilities using SAR experience a 6 month ROI
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
James’ LinkedIn PageUtilis’ website
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May 18, 2021 • 40min
Digital Transformation with Prateek Joshi
Plutoshift CEO Prateek Joshi comes on to talk about digital transformation in the water sector. Prateek hits on a number of important and practical points in a wide-ranging discussion on data, AI, and machine learning in the water sector.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Prateek’s background & how it influenced his arc into the water sectorWater-intensive industries and using water data in those industriesPrateek’s view on digital transformationHow COVID influenced the digital transformationThe limitations of human-based decision-makingCommon challenges for data-centric organizationsHow to drive organizational behavior change with respect to data usageThe difference between AI and machine learningData quality and verification issuesThe factors companies look for when selecting an AI system
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Prateek’s LinkedIn PagePlutoshift’s websitePrateek’s website
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May 4, 2021 • 46min
Top Digital Water Trends with Meena Sankaran
Water entrepreneur (and new mom) Meena Sankaran discusses data collection and usage in the water sector. She provides fascinating perspectives on everything from driving the digital transformation to common data gaps to cybersecurity. Get ready for a terrific interview from Meena!
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Meena’s upbringing in India and its impact on her work in water today
Meena’s view on the use of data in the water sector
Why upcoming workforce retirements should drive the digital transformation
Meena’s insights into managing data
How to figure out what data is important
Common data gaps
The difference between qualitative and quantitative data gaps
Getting employees to buy into the digital transformation
Data collection and management inside the fence versus outside the fence
Meena’s thoughts on cybersecurity in the water sector
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Meena’s LinkedIn Page
Ketos’ website
TWV #179: Data Enhanced Wastewater Treatment with Kando CEO Ari Goldfarb
TWV #147: The Power of Digital Water with Cindy Wallis-Lage
Thank You!
Thanks to each of you for listening and spreading the word about The Water Values Podcast! Keep the emails coming and please rate and review The Water Values Podcast on iTunes and Stitcher if you haven’t done so already. And don’t forget to tell your friends about the podcast and whatever you do, don’t forget to join The Water Values mailing list!

May 4, 2021 • 46min
Corralling Water Data with Meena Sankaran
Water entrepreneur (and new mom) Meena Sankaran discusses data collection and usage in the water sector. She provides fascinating perspectives on everything from driving the digital transformation to common data gaps to cybersecurity. Get ready for a terrific interview from Meena!
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Meena’s upbringing in India and its impact on her work in water today
Meena’s view on the use of data in the water sector
Why upcoming workforce retirements should drive the digital transformation
Meena’s insights into managing data
How to figure out what data is important
Common data gaps
The difference between qualitative and quantitative data gaps
Getting employees to buy into the digital transformation
Data collection and management inside the fence versus outside the fence
Meena’s thoughts on cybersecurity in the water sector
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Meena’s LinkedIn Page
Ketos’ website
TWV #179: Data Enhanced Wastewater Treatment with Kando CEO Ari Goldfarb
TWV #147: The Power of Digital Water with Cindy Wallis-Lage
Thank You!
Thanks to each of you for listening and spreading the word about The Water Values Podcast! Keep the emails coming and please rate and review The Water Values Podcast on iTunes and Stitcher if you haven’t done so already. And don’t forget to tell your friends about the podcast and whatever you do, don’t forget to join The Water Values mailing list!

Apr 20, 2021 • 52min
The Cadiz Water Project with Scott Slater
Long-time water lawyer Scott Slater discusses the Cadiz water project and touches on everything from environmental issues to water equity to efficient use of infrastructure. Take a listen to gain a unique perspective on the development of a water project and how it impacts society in general.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Scott’s long tenure as a California water lawyer
The background of the Cadiz water project
What a dry lake is
How the Cadiz project intercepts groundwater before it evaporates in dry lakes
The history of environmental review of the Cadiz project
How the Cadiz project achieved a zero environmental impact designation
The current state of the opposition to the Cadiz water project
How water development relates to economic development activities and housing
How the Cadiz project takes advantage of existing infrastructure and land rights
How data has played a role in developing the Cadiz project
The impact of the Cadiz water project on the equitable distribution of water
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Scott’s LinkedIn Page
The Cadiz Water Project’s website
LA Times article on the Cadiz Water Project
TWV #133: Resiliency and Regionalism in Southern California with Metropolitan’s Jeffrey Kightlinger
TWV #073: The Coachella Valley’s Water Story with CVWD’s Board President John Powell, Jr.
Thank You!
Thanks to each of you for listening and spreading the word about The Water Values Podcast! Keep the emails coming and please rate and review The Water Values Podcast on iTunes and Stitcher if you haven’t done so already. And don’t forget to tell your friends about the podcast and whatever you do, don’t forget to join The Water Values mailing list!

Apr 20, 2021 • 52min
The Cadiz Water Project with Scott Slater
Long-time water lawyer Scott Slater discusses the Cadiz water project and touches on everything from environmental issues to water equity to efficient use of infrastructure. Take a listen to gain a unique perspective on the development of a water project and how it impacts society in general.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Scott’s long tenure as a California water lawyer
The background of the Cadiz water project
What a dry lake is
How the Cadiz project intercepts groundwater before it evaporates in dry lakes
The history of environmental review of the Cadiz project
How the Cadiz project achieved a zero environmental impact designation
The current state of the opposition to the Cadiz water project
How water development relates to economic development activities and housing
How the Cadiz project takes advantage of existing infrastructure and land rights
How data has played a role in developing the Cadiz project
The impact of the Cadiz water project on the equitable distribution of water
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Scott’s LinkedIn Page
The Cadiz Water Project’s website
LA Times article on the Cadiz Water Project
TWV #133: Resiliency and Regionalism in Southern California with Metropolitan’s Jeffrey Kightlinger
TWV #073: The Coachella Valley’s Water Story with CVWD’s Board President John Powell, Jr.
Thank You!
Thanks to each of you for listening and spreading the word about The Water Values Podcast! Keep the emails coming and please rate and review The Water Values Podcast on iTunes and Stitcher if you haven’t done so already. And don’t forget to tell your friends about the podcast and whatever you do, don’t forget to join The Water Values mailing list!

Apr 6, 2021 • 44min
Start Up to Publicly Traded & the State of Water Technology with Xylem’s Christine Boyle
Christine Boyle returns after 5 years and discusses her journey from 2015 start-up to 2018 sale. She provides hints and valuable insights for start-ups to make it through the “valley of death” and much more. Plus, Bluefield Research’s President, Reese Tisdale, joins us for another Bluefield on Tap segment talking about President Biden’s infrastructure bill.
In this session, you’ll learn about:
Christine’s journey from start-up to sale to life inside a publicly traded companyWhy Christine made the decision to sell Valor Water to XylemPractical advice for start-ups on how to build trust with clientsChristine’s take on how digital water has changed over the last 5 yearsWhere Christine thinks digital water is goingHow small- and medium-size utilities can take advantage of digital waterChristine’s role in the technology incubator within XylemInnovations Christine saw take off during the pandemicChristine’s view of digital water and cybersecurityHow innovation ecosystems in start-ups and big companies compare and contrastThe issues on Christine’s priority list for innovation going forward
Resources and links mentioned in or relevant to this session include:
Christine’s LinkedIn PageXylem’s websiteXylem’s One Minute in Water with Christine Boyle YouTube VideoTWV #084: Using Big Data to Improve Water Utility Revenues with Valor Water President Christine BoyleTWV #170: Digitally Enabled Utility Resilience with Xylem’s Albert Cho
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