

TOPcast: The Teaching Online Podcast
Thomas Cavanagh & Kelvin Thompson
Hosted by Thomas Cavanagh and Kelvin Thompson, the Teaching Online Podcast (TOPcast) takes a fun and informative look at the various trends, best practices and technologies in the realm of online education.
Episodes
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Apr 4, 2022 • 29min
Episode 111: “Onlineness:” Necessity, Not Convenience
About Episode 111:
In this episode Tom and Kelvin unpack what it means for online courses to be “online” and why it matters to students if instructional designers or instructors make decisions that negatively impact this “onlineness.”
Podcast Recording
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Episode 111 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Hidden City Decaf from Zoka Coffee, Bellingham, WA
Content Links
Course Modalities and Attributes at UCF
In EDUCAUSE Review: “Students Often Prefer In-Person Classes . . . Until They Don’t”
TOPcast Episode 62: “DL Course Fees and the Funding of Online Education”
TOPcast Episode 97: “Finding the Right Mix of Modalities at Your Institution”
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
Paul Harvey (“and now you know… the rest of the story”)
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode! (Includes “socially distanced” recording by Tom and Kelvin)

Mar 21, 2022 • 25min
Episode 110: The LMS: Institutional “Linchpin”
About Episode 110:
Guest Kerlene King joins hosts Tom and Kelvin to discuss what it takes for the learning management system (LMS) to be used strategically at institutions of higher education.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 110 Show Notes:
Kerlene King, UCF LMS Administrator Team Lead
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Morning Flight (similar tasting to “Wine Club”) from Otus Coffee Company, Winter Garden, FL
About Otus Coffee Company
Content Links
“Use of Tools in Transition to Remote Instruction” (page 19 of “Time for Class: A National Survey of Faculty During COVID-19” by Every Learner Everywhere)
“The Foundations of the New 1EdTech Brand” (formerly IMS Global Learning Consortium)
“Learning Tools Interoperability (LTI) Fundamentals FAQ”
TOPcast Episode #12: “The LMS: Past, Present, and Future”
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
“Serial” podcast with Sarah Koenig
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode! (Includes “socially distanced” recording by Tom and Kelvin)

Mar 7, 2022 • 37min
Episode 109: Protecting Online Higher Education from the Great Resignation
About Episode 109:
Reports continue of individuals leaving the field of online higher education as part of the Great Resignation (or Reshuffling). In this episode, hosts Kelvin and Tom discuss how to make our online learning teams positive environments where people find purpose and pursue vision as we carry out this meaningful work.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 109 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Brazil Coqueiro Single-Origin Coffee
Coffee Harvesting in Brazil
Content Links
In the Chronicle of Higher Education: “Right Now, Your Best Employees Are Eyeing the Exits”
In USA Today: “Great Resignation sets off ‘vicious cycle’: As more people quit, exhausted colleagues also head for the exit”
In Business Insider: Article on the “Hidden Resignation” of Disengaged Employees
In Business Insider: “Workers in Hollywood aren’t joining the ‘Great Resignation’ even though COVID hit entertainment hard. Here’s why.”
In Wired: “‘The Great Resignation’ Misses the Point”
On Fresh Air: “Working 9 to 5? ‘Out of Office’ author says maybe it’s time to rethink that”
In Inside Higher Ed: “Work Around Lives vs. Lives Around Work”
Book: “Callings: The Purpose and Passion of Work (A StoryCorps Book)”
On Hidden Brain: “Cultivating Your Purpose”
TED Talk from Adam Grant: “How to Stop Languishing and Start Finding Flow”
TOPcast Episode #12: “‘Carism’ in Leading Online Learning Teams” with Dr. Luke Dowden
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
“StoryCorps”
“Dirty Jobs with Mike Rowe”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode! (Includes “socially distanced” recording by Tom and Kelvin)

Feb 21, 2022 • 34min
Episode 108: A Faculty Vision for Transformation of STEM Education
About Episode 108:
Guest physics professor Dr. Zhongzhou Chen joins hosts Tom and Kelvin to discuss a compelling vision for transforming the nature of STEM education via digital learning practices and technologies.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 108 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Zhongzhou Chen Ph.D, Assistant ProfessorDepartment of PhysicsUniversity of Central Florida
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Coffee Links
Brazil Legender “Sitio Arari” from Black Gold Coffee Roasters in Venice, FL
Black Gold Coffee Roasters (Venice, FL)
Content Links
Dr. Zhongzhou Chen’s Online Bio [Note: Includes Chen’s contact info]
Dr. Zhongzhou Chen on LinkedIn
Dr. Zhongzhou Chen’s Scholarly Work Based on Collaboration with CDL Developers
In University Business: “Four college STEM leaders share how COVID changes can impact access and equity”
From the American Association for the Advancement of Science’s (AAAS) IUSE Site: “How the Abrupt Shift Online Led to a Permanent Shift in Course Design”
National Science Foundation (NSF) CAREER Award: “Building an Online Learning for Mastery System That Creates a Student-centered STEM Learning Environment”
UCF CDL’s “Obojobo” Learning Platform
UCF CDL’s Developers: Learning Systems & Technology (LS&T)
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
Contextualized Video: Microsoft’s Steve Ballmer on “Developers”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode! (Includes “socially distanced” recording by Tom and Kelvin)

Feb 7, 2022 • 31min
Episode 107: “Peeling the Onion” of Online Program Rankings
About Episode 107:
In this episode, hosts Tom and Kelvin delve into the online program rankings associated with US News’ “Best Colleges” Rankings and discuss both the problems and the value such rankings bring to higher education.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 107 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
“100% Hawaiian” Coffee from Kauai Coffee Company (Kalaheo, Hawaii)
“About Kauai Coffee Company”
“Hawaiian Coffee: Everything You Need To Know”
Content Links
“US News Best Colleges Rankings”
“US News Online Programs Rankings”
From Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History Podcast: “Lord of the Rankings” (Part 1 of 2)
From Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History Podcast: “Project Dillard” (Part 2 of 2)
“The Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education”
New York Times’ “College Access Index” (2017)
Washington Monthly’s “College Guide and Rankings”
“What Will They Learn?” (alternative college rankings from the American Council of Trustees and Alumni)
US Department of Education’s “College Scorecard”
Phil Hill’s Articles on the College Scorecard
Summary Article: “Criticism of College and University Rankings (North America)” from Wikipedia
From Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History Podcast: “Carlos Doesn’t Remember” (Part 1 of 3)
From Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History Podcast: “Food Fight” (Part 2 of 3)
From Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History Podcast: “My Little Hundred Million” (Part 3 of 3)
TOPcast Episode #18: “Expanding Access to College Through Online Education”
TOPcast Episode #101: “Debating ‘The Cameras-On vs. Cameras-Off Debate’”
TOPcast Episode #106: “Rise of the CATO”
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval
Consumer Reports
“StephenAtHome:” Stephen Colbert’s Twitter Account
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode! (Includes “socially distanced” recording by Tom and Kelvin)

Jan 17, 2022 • 33min
Episode 106: Rise of the CATO
About Episode 106:
Guest Dr. Shawna Dark joins hosts Kelvin and Tom to discuss the importance of the emerging higher education role of the Chief Academic Technology Officer (CATO) and its relationship to online teaching and learning.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 106 Show Notes:
Shawna Dark, Ph.D., Chief Academic Technology Officer and Exec. Director of Research, Teaching, and Learning, UC Berkeley
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
From Home Grounds: “Best Sumatra Coffee: Buying, Roasting And Brewing Tips”
“Roast Levels: A Primer”
Content Links
Dr. Shawna Dark’s Online Profile
In EDUCAUSE Review: “A Strategic Leader for Student Success: An Argument for the Chief Academic Technology Officer”
In EDUCAUSE Review: “Attracting, Supporting, and Retaining Senior Academic Technology Officers in Higher Education”
TOPcast Episode 36: “Finding Online Learning Leaders: ‘Fredericksen’s List’”
TOPcast Episode 99: “The Importance of ‘Faculty Voice and Faculty Valuing’ in Online Education”
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
“Words of Inspiration: Quotes from [Dickens’] ‘A Christmas Carol’”
Dustin Hoffman Film “Rain Man”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode! (Includes “socially distanced” recording by Tom and Kelvin)

Jan 14, 2022 • 6min
Come Work for Us! Digital Learning Job Openings at UCF
The Division of Digital Learning is seeking qualified individuals to fill a variety of positions. If you are excited about serving faculty and students using innovative education technology and practices to impact student access, success, cost and the quality of the learning experience, consider joining our division. Learn more about our openings here: https://digitallearning.ucf.edu/jobs/
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Jan 3, 2022 • 31min
Episode 105: How Roasted Is Your Course?
About Episode 105:
Instructional designer Tim McKean pitches a topic that becomes an episode. Join hosts Tom and Kelvin in discussing Tim’s ideas about the balance between lightly or darkly “roasting” a course through instructional design.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 105 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
King’s Prize (Ethiopia) from Red Bay Coffee (Oakland, CA)
Red Bay Coffee
Content Links
Tim McKean’s Online Profile
From Dr. Bill Phillips: “A Study Of Instructor Persona in the Online Environment”
TOPcast Episode 21: “Accessibility: It’s a Journey, Not a Destination”
TOPcast Episode 99: The Importance of “Faculty Voice and Faculty Valuing” in Online Education
From the Specialty Coffee Association: “The Coffee Taster’s Flavor Wheel”
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
Star Trek’s Vulcan Salute
Tolkein’s “The Silmarillion”
“Amazon’s Lord of the Rings Series Will Break From J. R. R. Tolkien’s Canon”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode! (Includes “socially distanced” recording by Tom and Kelvin)

Dec 20, 2021 • 32min
Episode 104: Digital Learning and the Liberal Arts
About Episode 104:
In this episode, hosts Tom and Kelvin are joined by guest Kristen Eshleman to consider the benefits of scaling liberal arts education to serve and transform our regional communities.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 104 Show Notes:
Kristen Eshleman, Vice President for Library & Information Technology at Trinity College-Hartford
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
“Blends: A Coffee Boutique” (Savannah, GA)
Content Links
Kristen Eshleman’s Online Profile
(Video) Eshleman 2021 Keynote at Anderson University’s (SC) Learning Design and Technology Forum (LDTF): “Scaling the Liberal Arts and the Future of Work”
In Inside Higher Ed: “3 Questions for Kristen Eshleman”
From Association of American Colleges & Universities (AAC&U): “2021 Report on Employer Views of Higher Education”
Chetty’s “Top 50 Municipalities“ Study
From Google Scholar: A Collection of Dr. Raj Chetty’s Social Mobility Scholarship
TOPcast Episode 103: “Learning from 2021: Our Listeners Speak”
(Still Open for Your Input!) 2021 TOPcast Listener Survey
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode! (Includes “socially distanced” recording by Tom and Kelvin)

Dec 6, 2021 • 33min
Episode 103: Learning from 2021: Our Listeners Speak
About Episode 103:
At year’s end, hosts Kelvin and Tom are joined by an interactive group of past guests and regular listeners to identify some lessons learned from 2021 as we plan for the new year ahead. See how your perspectives relate to theirs.This is a great episode to share with a colleague and discuss together!
Podcast Recording
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Episode 103 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Guests, listeners, and hosts during the 2021 year-in-review episode.
Content Links
Kelvin’s Blended Learning “Bullseye” Diagram
Tom’s Book Chapter: “The Postmodality Era: How Online Learning is Becoming Learning”
Participate in the 2021 “Dulcet Gurgles Community Challenge”
Online Profiles of Episode Contributors (listed in order of appearance)
Dr. Patsy Moskal (UCF)
Dr. Tanya Spilovoy (WCET)
Shannon Riggs (Oregon State)
Dr. Kelvin Bentley (WGU Labs)
Dr. Jason Johnston (UKY)
Dr. Steven Crawford (Maricopa Community Colleges)
Dr. Lisa Desruisseaux (Quincy College)
Past TOPcast Episodes Referenced by Name in this Episode
#60 (from 2020): Growing [As] Leaders in Our Online Learning Field (with guest Dr. Kelvin Bentley)
#81: Technology Adoption as Enabling the “Right Thing”
#82: Fostering Large Scale OER Adoption (with guest Dr. Tanya Spilovoy)
#83: Re-thinking Synchronous for the Post-COVID Era
#85: Blended Is the Future. (And It’s Not Just Courses)
#86: When Can We Trust Our Students’ Perceptions of Their Own Learning? (with guest Dr. Barbara Zorn)
#88: “It Really Always Comes Back to Design” (with guest Shannon Riggs)
#94: Digital STEM: Building On Successful Teaching Experiences of Faculty (with guest Dr. Julie Mendez)
#96: 25 Years of “Conscientious, Methodical Research” (with guest Dr. Patsy Moskal)
#97: Finding the Right Mix of Modalities at Your Institution
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
“A Comprehensive Guide to Blossom’s ‘Very Special’ Episodes”
Santa on the Norelco Shaver Commercial
“Thank You, Easter Bunny” Commercial
“Mr. Owl, How Many Licks Does It Take…?” Commercial
“The Dulcet Gurgles Holiday Extravaganza” Album Commercial
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode! (Includes “socially distanced” recording by Tom and Kelvin)


