

TOPcast: The Teaching Online Podcast
Thomas Cavanagh & Kelvin Thompson
Hosted by Thomas Cavanagh and Kelvin Thompson, the Teaching Online Podcast (TOPcast) takes a fun and informative look at the various trends, best practices and technologies in the realm of online education.
Episodes
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Nov 20, 2023 • 30min
Episode 150: A Global, Holistic, 360 Degree Perspective on Online Higher Education
About Episode 150:
Guest Dr. Safary Wa-Mbaleka joins hosts Tom and Kelvin to talk about the importance of cultivating a more global perspective on our online higher education field and shares how a new book can help. The SAGE Handbook of Online Higher Education is out now.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 150 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Panera Coffee
Content Links
Dr. Safary Wa-Mbaleka’s Online Profile
Publisher’s Information Site: SAGE Handbook of Online Higher Education
Sign-Up Form: FREE Online Summit Related to the OHE SAGE Handbook
PREVIEW via Google Books: SAGE Handbook of Online Higher Education
Previous SAGE Handbook Edited by Dr. Wa-Mbaleka – The SAGE Handbook of Qualitative Research in the Asian Context
TOPcast Episode #07: “Shaping the Future of Online Learning” (with shoutout to Dr. Wa-Mbaleka)
TOPcast Episode #141: “It’s Star Spangled Learning, Baby!” (related to US chapter)
Just-For-Fun Pop Culture Links
Michael Keaton Film “Multiplicity”
Vintage Science Fiction Novel The Duplicated Man
History and Cultural Significance of “Video Killed the Radio Star”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!

Nov 6, 2023 • 21min
Episode 149: “Baking AI into the Process” of Digital Learning Over the Next Five Years
About Episode 149:
Emerging from the “TOPcast Live” session at OLC Accelerate 2023, join hosts Kelvin and Tom as they discuss how the framing and implementation of our increasingly AI-influenced digital learning field might continue to evolve over the next few years.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 149 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
From Home Cafe by Charlie: “Make a Perfect Cafe Mocha [3 Ways]“
Content Links
From LinkedIn Learning: Dave Burse’s “How to research and write using generative AI tools.” [Note: Subscription log-in required.]
From the 2018 TOPcast Live Session: Episode #44 “The Intertwined Futures of Online and Digital Learning” (recording, session photos, bonus content recording, and many, many links)
Curated Content from Prior Episodes
Video: “If AI is the Answer, What is the Question: Thinking about Learning and Vice Versa” (Harvard’s Dr. Chris Dede)
“Official Conference Report: AI x Education” (hosted by Stanford University)
Course from University of Sydney: “AI in Education” (for students and built by students)
Previous TOPcast Episodes Related to Artificial Intelligence
Crowdsourced Listener Resources
Dr. Michelle Pacansky-Brock on the Importance of “Humanizing” in Online Education“
Oregon State University’s “Artificial Intelligence Tools: Guidance for online course development and the use of artificial intelligence tools”
From Shift eLearning: “3 Ways to Leverage Artificial Intelligence for Rapid eLearning Course Creation”
In Forbes: “Remember The Human Element Of The Emerging AI World”
From McKinsey: “The state of AI in 2023: Generative AI’s breakout year”
From Macmillan Learning: “From Non-Traditional to Post-Traditional”
From the American Council on Education (ACE): “The Post-Traditional Manifesto Revisited”
From the Postsecondary National Policy Institute: “Post-Traditional Students” Factsheet”
Just-For-Fun Pop Culture Links
Film: “Blade Runner”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!

Oct 16, 2023 • 31min
Episode 148: Fostering Digital Learning Innovation
About Episode 148:
Guest Jared Stein joins hosts Kelvin and Tom to discuss the ways that we think about, talk about, and foster innovation in our higher education digital learning context, to the benefit of students and faculty.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 148 Show Notes:
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Coffee Links
Single-Origin Ethiopia Sidamo Nura Korate from Black Gold Coffee Roasters (Venice, FL)
Content Links
Jared Stein’s Online Profile
Rarebird EdTech
Jared Stein’s Keynote at UCF’s Inaugural Digital Learning Day: “The Rise (and Reversal) of Student Disengagement”
Book: Essentials for Blended Learning: A Standards-Based Guide, 2nd Edition (Stein & Graham, 2020)
Book Chapter: “Keeping FIRRST Things First: The Delicate Dance of Leading Online Innovation at Your Institution” (Cavanagh & Thompson, 2017)
In Wikipedia: Summary of “Diffusion of Innovations” (Everett Rogers)
In Harvard Business Review: “The 4 Types of Innovation and the Problems They Solve” (Satell, 2017)
(Twitter Thread) Alex Pickett on “Innovation”
Article: “Breakthrough Models Academy: Focusing on Innovation that Transforms Higher Education” (Fowler, 2013)
TOPcast Episode #17: “Researching ‘Questions of Consequence’” (with Dr. Charles Graham)“
TOPcast Episode #24: “Multilingual Musings: International Connections in Online Education” (with Alexandra Pickett)
Just-For-Fun Pop Culture Links
30 second video: “Gen Z: Lost In Translation [with Millenials & Boomers] | Only Murders In The Building
Past Present Podcast’s tracing of “the history of the pumpkin spice phenomenon”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!

Oct 2, 2023 • 31min
Episode 147: “Faculty Preparation” and More QA Insights from CHLOE 8
About Episode 147:
In this episode, hosts Tom and Kelvin discuss highlights from and reactions to the CHLOE 8 report, including the importance of faculty preparation, other quality assurance practices, and more.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 147 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Coffee from Einstein Brothers Bagels
Content Links
[Report] CHLOE 8: “Student Demand Moves Higher Ed Toward a Multi-Modal Future”
[WCET Report] “What To Do When the Modality of A Learning Experience is Unclear: Guidelines for Creating Multidimensional Learning Experiences” (Johnson, 2023)
TOPcast Episode #123: “Hybridity Predicted and More from CHLOE 7”
TOPcast Episode #93: “‘A More Generalized Perspective’ – Reflections on the CHLOE 6 Report”
Full List of Past CHLOE Reports
In Inside Higher Ed: “Babson Bids Good-bye to Enrollment Numbers” (Straumscheim, 2016)
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
“Johnny One Note”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!

Sep 18, 2023 • 35min
Episode 146: Get Hands-On with AI
About Episode 146:
In this second of two back-to-back episodes on AI in higher ed, guest Dr. Rohan Jowallah joins hosts Kelvin and Tom to share his insights and advice after years of evaluating and working with AI tools.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 146 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Pike’s Place Blend Coffee from Starbucks (Seattle, WA)
Content Links
[Please Click and Vote Now!] Listener Poll: Topic Selection for “TOPcast Live” session at OLC Accelerate 2023
Dr. Rohan Jowallah’s Online Profile
Dr. Rohan Jowallah’s YouTube Channel: “The Learning Journey”
AI-Generated Visual Art Prompted by Dr. Rohan Jowallah (see LinkedIn Feed)
Successmaker
BBC’s Artificial Intelligence Coverage
BBC’s Virtual Reality Coverage
AI Image Generation Platform Example: Midjourney
AI Video Generation Platform Example: Synesthesia
TOPcast Episode #145: “’More of the Human Element:’ Dolly, Picard, Ray, Dede, and More”
TOPcast Episode Episode #131: “ChatGPT: Friend or Foe?”
Just for Fun Pop Culture Links
Theodore (Teddy) Roosevelt’s “Man in the Arena” Speech (popular quote in paragraph eight)
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!

Sep 5, 2023 • 33min
Episode 145: “More of the Human Element:” Dolly, Picard, Ray, Dede, and More
About Episode 145:
Hosts Tom and Kelvin conclude that “nobody’s through talking about AI” and provide the first of two back-to-back episodes with an update on developments within the digital teaching and learning space, reflections on institutional support, and a conclusion that we need “more of the human element.”
Podcast Recording
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Episode 145 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Single-Origin Kenya – Davis Roasters (Madison County, NC)
Content Links
[Please Click and Vote Now!] Listener Poll: Topic Selection for “TOPcast Live” session at OLC Accelerate 2023
On Wikipedia: “DALL-E”
In EdSurge: “Instructors Rush to Do ‘Assignment Makeovers’ to Respond to ChatGPT” (Jeff Young)
“Official Conference Report: AI x Education” (hosted by Stanford University)
Participant Reflection from UPCEA/Schroeder AI Course: “Preliminary Evaluation of Generative AI and Lifelong Education” (Rod Lastra)
On Diigo: AI Weblinks Shared by Ray Schroeder (+some others collected by Kelvin)
UCF Conference: “Teaching & Learning with AI”
Visual: “Gartner Hype Cycle”
Course from Auburn University: “Teaching With AI at Auburn”
Course from University of Sydney: “AI in Education” (for students and built by students)
Website: “AI @ the University of Florida”
Website: “Teaching and Learning with Artificial Intelligence Apps” (University of Calgary’s Taylor Institute for Teaching and Learning)
Website: “UCF’s Information Literacy Modules”
In The Chronicle of Higher Education: “GPT-4 Can Already Pass Freshman Year at Harvard” (Maya Bodnick)
Blog Post: “No, an AI could not pass ‘freshman year’ in college” (Steven D. Krause)
From CNN: “ChatGPT passes exams from law and business schools”
Keynote Video: “If AI is the Answer, What is the Question: Thinking about Learning and Vice Versa” (Dr. Chris Dede)
On Memory Alpha: Star Trek’s “Commander Data”
On Memory Alpha: Star Trek’s “Captain Picard”
TOPcast Episode Episode #131: “ChatGPT: Friend or Foe?”
TOPcast Episode Episode #120: “Academic Innovation Lessons: Hype vs. Hope”
Just-For-Fun Pop Culture Links
From “All About Psychology:” “The Fascinating Phenomenon of the Old Woman Young Woman Illusion”
Annotated Photos: #KelvinsCupCollection (on the platform formerly known as Twitter)
“Chock Full O’ Nuts” Coffee
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!

Aug 21, 2023 • 34min
Episode 144: Helping with “Running the Business” for 100 years
About Episode 144:
In this episode, UPCEA CEO Dr. Bob Hansen joins hosts Kelvin and Tom to discuss the intertwined histories of professional/continuing education and online education and the importance of attending to the “business” of both.
Podcast Recording
UPCEA CEO Dr. Bob Hansen
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Episode 144 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
View complete list of episode highlights via Twitter
Coffee Links
Decaf Cafe Carmelita Blend, Tony’s Coffee (Bellingham, WA)
Decaf Humbucker Blend, Fundamental Coffee (Seattle, WA)
“Super Coffee”
Content Links
Dr. Bob Hansen’s Online Profile
UPCEA – University Professional & Continuing Education Association
“The Wisconsin Idea”
[Article in UWisconsin alumni magazine] “Who Needs Classrooms?”
TOPcast Episode #133 “Professional Development Across Our Online Education Community”
TOPcast Episode #126: “COLOs, Context, and Community”
TOPcast Episode #36 “Finding Online Learning Leaders: ‘Fredericksen’s List’”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!

Aug 7, 2023 • 31min
Episode 143: “Speaking in Dollars and Cents” About Online Learning
About Episode 143
Hosts Kelvin and Tom discuss how to talk about the value of online education in various ways that matter to different audiences, including speaking about return on investment (ROI), social mobility, quality of learning, and more.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 143 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Lenore’s Light Roast (Single-Origin Honduran) from Pike House Coffee, Johnson City, TN
About Pike House Coffee
Content Links
(From Ideas & Insights Blog) “Lifting Lives and Livelihoods – At Scale”
“Kelvin’s Report Out from the First 90 Days and Beyond”
(From Marketing Partners) “Guide to Strategic Message Framing and Reframing”
(From Investopedia) “Value Proposition: How to Write It With Examples”
TOPcast Episode #135 – “Different Institutions, Different Methods, Same Goals”
TOPcast Episode #23 – “What Is Your Elevator Pitch? Talking to the Public about Online” Education
TOPcast Episode #1 – “What is Online Learning? Definitions, Boundary Objects, and Baggage”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!

Jul 17, 2023 • 32min
Episode 142: “Repurposing” – Working Smarter, Not Harder
About Episode 142:
Guest Dr. Kathy Gosser joins hosts Tom and Kelvin to discuss how faculty, instructional designers, and others can adopt habits of “repurposing” across the multifaceted work of online education and digital learning.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 142 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Single-origin Honduras from Fante’s Coffee (Louisville, KY)
Keurig’s Original Donut Shop Decaf
Content Links
Dr. Kathy Gosser’s Online Profile
UofL’s Yum! Center for Global Franchise Excellence
Yum! Brands
Diagram: Reusability/Contextualization (“Modular Content Hierarchy”) based on work of Hodgins (Autodesk)
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!

Jul 3, 2023 • 29min
Episode 141: “It’s Star Spangled Learning, Baby!”
About Episode 141:
In this episode coinciding with American Independence Day, hosts Kelvin and Tom invite a consideration of distinctly American contributions to the models of online higher education. These contributions continue to shape the evolution of online learning around the globe.
Podcast Recording
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Episode 141 Show Notes:
Episode Synopsis via Twitter
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Coffee Links
Single-Origin Ethiopia Sidama from Heine Brothers Coffee (Louisville, KY)
Content Links
QS World Universities Rankings
Times Higher Education World University Rankings
Academic Ranking of World Universities
Article in The Chronicle of Higher Education: “The rise of the mega-university” (Gardner, 2019, February 17)
Article from Best Colleges: “Online Education and Mega-Universities: Factors to Consider” (Venable, 2022)
From UK: British Open University
From Turkey: Anadolu University
In UCF Today: “Spirit Splash Wins Best Campus Tradition Contest” (2011)
In Knight News: “UCF’s Spirit Splash Time Set for Homecoming Week” (2022)
Just-for-Fun Pop Culture Link
Video (8-min.): “What McDonald’s Menu Items Look Like Around The World”
Extra Special Feature
Video Version of this Episode!


