Bad On Paper

We're thrilled to have sister-in-law duo Veronica Swanson Beard + Veronica Miele Beard with us today! Besides being two of the most stylish women we know, they have built an incredible brand. Both women have incredible backgrounds (and stories) to share - it was fun learning how they got their start and went into business together. With backgrounds in design, entrepreneurship, finance, and a mutual love for fashion, they created a brand that it smart, stylish, and inclusive. We talk about extending their size range, their best-selling Dickie jackets, their 10 year anniversary, favorite fashion trends, and personal style icons. We also talk about the importance of family and life outside of work. More about Veronica Beard: Veronicabeard.com @veronicabeard Products Mentioned: Vintner's Daughter Nars Laguna bronzer Charlotte Tilbury eyeshadow palettes & IG tutorials Active Argan Oils Obsessions: Conair Fabric Defuzzer Zalto Wine Glasses Instagram Obsessions: @veryrealfantasy @cobblerscovehotel @baoace Books Mentioned: A Court of Thorns and Roses By Sarah J Maas Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert Long Bright River by Liz Moore January Book Club Pick: Good Girls Lie By JT Ellison Sponsors: Kassatex: Take 20% off your first order when you shop at kassatex.com and enter code BOP20 at checkout HelloFresh: Get 10 free meals at hellofresh.com/BOP10 and use code BOP10. LOLA: Take 30% off your first month subscription - mylola.com and enter code BOP30 at checkout. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and her blog TheStripe.com and Becca @beccamfreeman.

It's a brand new year (and a brand new decade!). While neither of us are huge fans of setting "resolutions," (it just sounds so drastic!) today we wanted to reflect on last year and share some goals for 2020! This week we are looking back on 2019 and sharing our biggest accomplishments from the year (and what could have been better) and setting some goals for the year ahead! We have have a few shared goals too (growing the pod, making Delta platinum, to name a couple). We both have a lot to be thankful for and a lot to look forward to. So here's to making this year calmer, cozier, and even better than the last! Obsessions: You on Netflix Augustus Bader Primer Milk Skin Tint Giorgio Armani Luminous Silk Foundation Youth Dew by May Lindstom Vintner's Daughter Beauty Pie Luminizing Drops Flesh Beauty Drops Instagram Obsessions: @robinberzinmd @brooklynblonde1 @shityoushouldcareabout @pennbadgley @ambyrchilders @then0t0ri0usvip Books Mentioned: Things in Jars by Jess Kid (April release) Quiet by Susan Kane A Court of Thorns and Roses By Sarah J Maas Followers by Megan Angelo (comes out end of January) All Adults Here by Emma Straub (comes out in May) One in A Million by Lindsey Kelk Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert January Book Club Pick: Good Girls Lie By JT Ellison Sponsors: Book of the Month: Go to bookofthemonth.com and sign up using code BOP and get any book for $5! FitFabFun: $10 off your first box with code BOP at fabfitfun.com. Care of: 50% your first order at takecareof.com with offer code BOP50 at checkout. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and her blog TheStripe.com and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Happy New Year! Today our friend Kellie Brown joins us. Kellie is the founder of And I Get Dressed, a brand consultant, blogger + Youtuber, fashion industry PR prodigy, and body positive activist (she created the #fatatfashionweek hashtag)... amongst other things! She is a long time New Yorker, who recently made the move to LA and tells us about her career journey, the evolution of her blog + Youtube channel, and working for herself. She shares her views on weight loss, the dangers of "new year, new me" mentality, confidence, the ways that people can weaponize words, and a quick cheat sheet on how to respond to fat-phobic friends and family. She also shares her "mirror trick" for self confidence. Kellie talk about what she is most proud of in her career and gives advice on how to make even the most basic (or some my say, classic!) wardrobe cooler with just a few key pieces. More Kellie! @itsmekellieb And I Get Dressed on Youtube https://andigetdressed.com/ Body Party Podcast (coming soon) Products Mentioned: Boscia Sake Hydrating and Brightening Serum Murad Invisiblur Sunscreen Necessaire Lotion Nars Powermatte Lipstick Summer Friday Jet Lag Mask Rent The Runway (use code RTRBECCA for $50 off your first 2 months) Stichfix Obsessions: Beyond Yoga Leggings Fleur D'Oranger Shower Gel Woolrich Parka Instagram Obsessions: @thelastlineLA @localeclectic @therookiehooker Books Mentioned: Things in Jars by Jess Kid (april release) Topics of Conversation by Miranda Popkey The Girl who Never Read Noam Chomsky by Jana Casale Impeachment by John Meacham Little Weirds by Jenny Slate The Tenant by Katrine Engberg Quiet by Susan Kane A Court of Thorns and Roses By Sarah J Maas Reputation by Sarah Shepard January Book Club Pick: Good Girls Lie By JT Ellison Sponsors: Night: Go to discovernight.com and get 20% off with code BOP20 at checkout. Book of the Month: Go to bookofthemonth.com and sign up using code BOP and get any book for $5! Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

For our December book club, we're reading One Day in December by Josie Silver. This was one of our favorite books from last year, so we had to make it a book club pick! What would you do if you had a "love at first sight" moment, but the man of your dreams turns out to be your best friend's new boyfriend? The book follows the three of them over the course of a decade through life's ups & downs and heartbreaks as they each grow and change. Grace reveals she once had her own "bus boy". Both Grace and Becca share opinions on audiobooks (nuances and lack thereof in some cases), meeting men (#morecrushes2020), modern dating, and definitely think this should be a Hallmark movie. Grace's Top 5 of 2019: Save me the Plums by Ruth Reichl Verity by Colleen Hoover Becoming by Michelle Obama My Brilliant Friend by Elena Ferrante The Idea of you by Robinne Lee Becca's Top 5 of 2019: Idea of you by Robinne Lee I'll Give You The Sun by Jandy Nelson American Royals by Katharine McGee Throne of Glass Series by Sarah J Maas A Gentleman in Moscow by Amor Towles Podcasts Mentioned: Storybound Podcast Boobsweat Podcast British Chick - Lit Recommendations: Who's That Girl by Mhairi McFarlane The Flatshare by Beth O'Leary You Don't Have To Say You Love Me by Sarra Manning One in a Million by Lindsey Kelk Jemima J by Jane Green Obsessions: Sprout Home in Brooklyn Design within Reach Vase Veronica Beard Dickie Jacket Instagram: @harrietandthestar @jyoungdesignhouse Other Books Mentioned: Followers by Anna Davies American Dirt by Jeanine Cummins January Book Club Book: Good Girls Lie By J.T. Ellison Join our Facebook group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

For this month's "Just Us" episodes, Becca had the idea to interview each other! This week Grace interviews Becca. We crowdsourced the questions from you and had so much fun interviewing each other. You already know Becca, but how well do you really know her? Today all of your questions are answered. Does Becca have a secret boyfriend? Becca tells us her goals for the podcast (and her instagram too!), what it's like gaining an online following, thoughts on the word influencer and why she doesn't consider herself one. Becca also talks about shifting to freelance, getting clients, managing people, and knowing when it is time to leave a job. We also get the scoop on using an interior decorator, the process, pros and cons, and of course a glimpse into her friendship with Grace! Girls Weekend Ideas: The Breakers in Palm Beach More Mentions: Digit App (for Budgeting) We are Knitters Christmas Movies Mentioned: The Christmas Contract (Lifetime movie, basically a One Tree Hill Reunion) A Christmas Inheritance (Netflix) Obsessions: iPhone 11 Nadaam cashmere tracksuit The Laundress Wool & Cashmere Shampoo Instagram Obsessions: @stuffmomposts @thedunmore @indiahicksstyle @jordansyatt (for practical diet inspiration) @emmabaryl (Becca's Decorator) Books Mentioned: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert (Becca's most inspiring book) Radical Candor by Kim Scott (Becca's fav book for managing people) The Honey Don't List by Christina Lauren A Good Girl's Guide to Murder by Holly Jackson (Out in Feb) Anna K by Jenny Lee One of Us is Next by Karen McManus (author of One of Us is Lying) Six of Crows By Leigh Bardugo The Authenticity Project by Claire Pooley (out Feb 5) December Book Club Pick: One Day in December by Josie Silver Sponsors: Borghese: Get 25% off site wide at borghese.com and enter the code BOP25 at checkout. LOLA Take 30% off your $5 trial set - mylola.com and enter code BOP30 at checkout. Care/of: 50% your first order at takecareof.com with offer code BOP50 at checkout. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

We're so excited to have our friend Kate Kennedy join us today! You probably know her from her podcast, Be There in Five… OR her book Twinkle, Twinkle Social Media Star, her hilarious pop culture commentary on Instagram, or her viral doormat business. She talks about how she started her business, how she came up with the idea for the podcast, and her career journey. We talk about press trips, Instagram triggers, the influencers we admire most, and (of course) Taylor Swift, and why Kate is such a Stan. Kate makes her 2020 predictions for pop culture and influencer trends and gives great advice on following your dreams and how to inoffensively block your significant other and family on Instagram. More Kate! @bethereinfive Be There In Five Podcast Grace's Episode of Under the Influencer on Be There in Five. Products Mentioned: Revlon Lipstick in Black Cherry Crest White Strips Obsessions: Jackson Vaughn, the JV Christmas candle Knitting Kits from We are Knitters Wander Beauty the Dualist concealer Instagram Obsessions: Tiktok #dogsoftiktok @ambitiouskitchen Books Mentioned: City of Girls by Elizabeth Gilbert The Woman Upstairs by Claire Messud In Five Years by Rebecca Serle Regretting You by Colleen Hoover Deadly Little Scandals by Jennifer Lynn Barnes (Sequel to Little White Lies) Throne of Glass Series (all 7 books) Twinkle, Twinkle, Social Media Star by Kate Kennedy December Book Club Pick: One Day in December by Josie Silver Sponsors: Night: Go to discovernight.com and get 20% off with code BOP20 at checkout. Borghese: Get 25% off site wide at borghese.com and enter the code BOP25 at checkout. HelloFresh: Get 9 free meals at hellofresh.com and use code BOP9. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

In this episode of Bad on Politics we dive into one of our most-requested topics… healthcare! We're joined by New York Times journalist, Margot Sanger-Katz, to break down the various healthcare structures on the table in this election and which candidates support which plan. We also spend some time discussing the implications of these plans and whether they're feasible (or likely given our current congressional map). We're certainly feeling way more healthcare-literate after this episode, and hope you do too! For more Margot Sanger-Katz: @sangerkatz on twitter https://www.nytimes.com/by/margot-sanger-katz - for her articles About Bad on Politics: Bad on Politics is a monthly bonus episode where we invite a guest expert to help us break down a political topic. We get it, politics is confusing and there's a anxiety-inducing amount of news coverage to follow. So, we're here to ask the "dumb" questions so you don't have to. We want to break things down so you can understand what's going on and make an informed opinion.

For this month's "Just Us" episodes, Becca had the idea to interview each other! This week Becca interviews Grace and in two weeks, Grace will interview Becca. We crowdsourced the questions from you and had so much fun interviewing each other. You already know Grace but today she's answering your questions. What really goes into working for yourself as an influencer, the nitty gritty behind choosing brands to work with, how sponsorships work, testing products, and even turning down brands she doesn't like (awkward!). She shares some of her best dating advice and tells some juicy stories too! We chat about her love of Becca's cooking, her work ethic, her love affair with Charleston, and of course her cat, Tyrion too! Products Mentioned: Farmacy Cleansing Balm Dr. Augustinus Bader The Rich Cream Weleda Skin Food & Skin Food Light (under $30) Olay Retinol Serum Olay Retinol Eye Cream Seaweed Bath Co. Face Scrub (under $30) Glossier Lash Slick (under $30) L'Oreal Lash Paradise (under $30) L'Oreal Liquid Lipstick (under $30) Ilia Cosmetics Kosas Cosmetics W3ll People Bronzer Store Mentioned: Ron Robinson Gnome Podcast Mentioned: Terrible, Thanks for Asking Obsessions: Bow and Drape Sweatshirts (for Dogs AND Cats, too!) Hourglass: Scattered Light Eyeshadow Instagram Obsessions: @januaryjones @noraborealis Books Mentioned: City of Girls by Elizabeth Gilbert One of us is Next by Karen M. McManus (sequel to: One of Us is Lying) American Dirt by Jeanine Cummins Deadly Little Scandals by Jennifer Lynn Barnes (sequel to: Little White Lies) Klutz Books! December Book Club Pick: One Day in December by Josie Silver Sponsors: Night: Go to discovernight.com and get 20% off with code BOP20 at checkout. Away: Visit awaytravel.com/BOP enter code BOP at checkout for $20 off. Equilibria: Go to equilbriawomen.com and enter code BOP at check out for 15% off your first order (the beginner box is not included in this offer) Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

Yesterday we talked about We Came Here to Forget by Andrea Dunlop and today we're so happy to have her with us for a special bonus episode where we talk about the book! We talk to her about her writing process and how she developed the plot line for the book (which is somehow both thrilling with a happy redemption story). We loved this book, and we learned more about Andrea's personal experiences that led to writing this. She set out to debunk myths about the issue and what pop culture is getting right and wrong about Munchausen's by proxy. Andrea is a pantser (not a plotter) when it comes to writing, and she reveals her process, the importance of resilience in the industry, and how she gives back to the community through social media. Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlap Andrea's Books: Losing the Light She Regrets Nothing Broken Bay: A Novella We Came Here to Forget TV Shows that feature Munchausen's by Proxy: Sharp Objects on HBO The Act on Hulu The Politician on Netflix Famous Munchausen Cases Mentioned: Gypsy Rose Blanchard Case Lacey Spears Case Books Mentioned: Luckiest Girl Alive by Jessica Knoll This is How it Always Is by Laurie Frankel My Sweet Angel by John Glatt The Thousandth Floor by Katharine McGee The Wives by Tarryn Fisher Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn amazon Girl on the Train by Paula Hawkins You by Caroline Kepnes Looker by Laura Sims The Woman Upstairs by Claire Messud (Instead of the Woman in the Window! ha!) Sponsors: FitFabFun: $10 off your first box with code BOP at fabfitfun.com Book of the Month: Go to bookofthemonth.com and sign up using code BOP and get any book for $5! Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.

For this month's book club, we're talking about We Came Here to Forget by Andrea Dunlop. The book follows ex-professional skier, Katie Cleary as she starts a new life in Buenos Aires. Along the way, this book kept us guessing about the dark secret in her past that led her to move away and start a new life. We both devoured this book in one day: Grace needed to find out the shocking truth about Katie's sister, while Becca was living for Katie's story of redemption in Argentina—complete with tango lessons and a new, foreign lover. Obsessions: Barefoot Dreams Socks Barefoot Dreams Cardigan Lele Sadoughi x Stoney Clover Lane collab Tuleste Pom Pom Earrings The Body Stone Instagram Obsessions: @bookbaristas @fatpompoms Books Mentioned: We Came Here to Forget by Andrea Dunlop (November Book Club Pick!) Such a Fun Age by Kiley Reid One Day in December by Josie Silver Sponsors: Care/of: 50% your first order at takecareof.com with offer code BOP50 at checkout. Borghese: Get 25% off site wide at borghese.com and enter the code BOP25 at checkout. Join our FB group for amazing book recs & more! Follow us on Instagram @badonpaperpodcast. Follow Grace on Instagram @graceatwood and Becca @beccamfreeman.