The Detroit Lions Podcast

Thursday testing sorts the board for Detroit The edges, defensive tackles, and off ball linebackers hit Lucas Oilfield and brought clarity. Several headliners crushed testing and pushed firmly out of Detroit Lions range at 17. Sonny Styles had a day. He looked like a top-two selection after the work he put in. Arnold Reed will not be there at 17 either. David Bailey’s surge put him on wish lists, not draft boards in the teens. Not everyone went. Room Maddox did not work out. Akeem Mesador sat as well. Kendrick Fox did not run the 40, and another Jones skipped a key portion too. The top of this NFL class made itself scarce for Detroit, and that matters. For a Lions roster looking to add juice on the edge and speed in the second level, Thursday underlined how the board may force a different path. Malachi Lawrence puts himself on the Lions radar UCF edge Malachi Lawrence delivered the kind of profile the Detroit Lions covet. He clocked a 1.58 10-yard split, leapt 40 inches in the vertical, and posted a broad jump just shy of 11 feet. That burst showed up in every drill. His get-off was immediate. His hands stayed active. He won with speed first, then mixed in power. The overall athletic score matched the eye test. The Lions have talked to him, including prior to Indianapolis. He is not a pick-17 projection. He looks like a second-round target who could line up across from Aidan Hutchinson and change the cadence of Detroit’s four-man rush. He is not the cleanest finisher and the tackling consistency needs tightening, but the traits translate to the NFL. Put his name in ink on the board of realistic upgrades. Day-three value from Iowa: Max Allen’s clean work Max Allen from Iowa is a different kind of find. Tall and angular, he moved with surprising smoothness. In the position drills he stayed on schedule. No extra gather steps. No wasted feet. He looked like a power-based edge who can kick inside when asked and win over either shoulder of a tackle. The profile echoes Romeo Oquara. Allen is not an exceptional tester, but he is good enough and well coached. Fourth or fifth round feels right. For the Detroit Lions, that is the sweet spot to fortify the rotation with a versatile, durable piece who brings baseline strength and sound mechanics. TJ Harper reframes a rocky year TJ Harper owned the room at the podium. He entered 2025 as a potential number one overall pick. The season did not deliver the numbers. He explained the context clearly and maintained he played better, which his tape supports. It was direct and measured, the kind of response teams want when the stat line dips. For the Detroit Lions Podcast audience, Thursday in Indy underscored two truths. The elite rose out of reach. The smart value sits right where Detroit can strike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m0rF9mCM3o #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #malachilawrence #nflscoutingcombine #2026nfldraft #tjparker #jackkelly #maxllewellyn #terrionarnold Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Inside a Quiet Combine Day for the LionsJeff Risdon checked in live from Indianapolis on the Detroit Lions Podcast. Thursday at the 2026 NFL Scouting Combine brings the first on-field work across the street. Wednesday was lighter. For the Detroit Lions, it was mostly defensive podium sessions. Useful, but limited. You learn how prospects communicate. You hear how they talk football. You watch poise and clarity. You do not get many hard answers.What Detroit Looks For in Combine MeetingsThe NFL churns on the question, did you meet with the Lions? It is a weak tell. Teams meet for different reasons. The Detroit Lions use those rooms to learn the person. Competitiveness. Ability to be coached. How a player meshes with coaches. The whiteboard matters, but less than with some clubs that grill pure X's and O's. Others will demand a defensive tackle recite gap fits from a specific snap. Detroit more often probes mindset and fit.Do not overread formal versus informal. Kirby Joseph had only an informal visit at the Combine and left thinking the Lions were not all that interested. He became a Detroit Lion anyway. There is also a player from this regime who was drafted with no Combine meeting at all. On the flip side, a prospect two drafts ago helped himself with a strong interview. The door swings both ways.Timing matters too. Podium appearances happen before many meetings. Prospects stay in town through workouts. A player who says he has not met Detroit yet on Wednesday might sit down with them Thursday night. Keep that context in mind when the meeting lists hit social media.Kelvin Shepherd's HC Interview Was RealOne media session cut through the noise. The Dolphins GM discussed their head coach search after moving on from Mike McDaniel. Detroit Lions defensive coordinator Kelvin Shepherd interviewed for that job. Some dismissed it as a box-check. The GM made it clear Shepherd was a serious candidate. That resonates in Indianapolis. It reflects how league decision-makers view Detroit's staff after back-to-back ascents. It also underscores why interviews at this NFL event are about people as much as plays.There is broader chatter. Miami's situation drew side-eye. Questions linger about Tua. There was even speculation about who will play quarterback for the New York Jets. Kyler Murray's name came up. It is not a great year to need a quarterback. None of that changes Detroit's plan this week. Watch. Learn. Separate signal from noise. The Combine is about stacking small edges. The Lions are sticking to it. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #nflscoutingcombine #indianapolis #podiuminterviews #formalmeeting #informalvisit #whiteboardx'sando's #defensivetackle #abilitytobecoached #kirbyjoseph #dolphinsgm #mikemcdaniel #tua #kylermurray #newyorkjetsquarterback #kelvinshepherdheadcoachinterview Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brad and Dan speak at the CombineThe Detroit Lions hit the NFL Scouting Combine on Tuesday with clarity at a critical spot. Minutes after Dan Campbell wrapped his podium, Taylor Decker posted that he is coming back. The timing sharpened the conversation that both Campbell and Brad Holmes started in Indianapolis. Plan as if Decker might not be there. Welcome him if he is. Now he is. That stabilizes left tackle.The Lions still want a real plan B at tackle. Even with Decker back for 2026, they need depth and a future answer. The return eases the pressure to chase a plug-and-play starter immediately. It also widens the draft choices. Detroit can shop for value instead of forcing the board.Ready-Now vs. Upside at Tackle, and the Ripple at EdgeWith Decker in place, the Lions can consider a developmental tackle at 17 or 50. That shifts the calculus between floor and ceiling. Spencer Fano and Francis Mauigoa are widely viewed as the most NFL-ready. They might not reach Detroit. The alternative is betting on growth. Caleb Lomu fits the long-range model. Monroe Freeling does too. There is even patience baked in for an injured stash like Isaiah Wood on Day 3.Freed from a must-start tackle search, Detroit can let the best player win the room. The vibe in Indianapolis points to edge and offensive line as the early pillars. Safety lingers as a swing factor. The first two rounds still look like edge and offensive line, with safety in the mix if the board breaks right.Safety Health Clouds the Secondary, Card-Ready at 17?Both leaders addressed the safeties’ health. The update on Kerby was cautious. More will be known in about a month. The staff is probing his recovery and realistic timeline. It did not sound overly promising. Branch tore his Achilles late in the season. A return before the start seems unlikely, and peak form could take time in 2026. The defense felt that loss. When the NFL’s interception leader went down with a knee injury, the secondary buckled and the unit needed weeks to adjust.That context keeps safety very live on Day 1 or 2. If Cam Dow is there at 17, the card goes in. Otherwise, Detroit can let a deep edge class meet a flexible tackle board and take what the NFL gives. One more steadying note from the Combine floor: the defensive coaching staff stays intact. Campbell is energized by that continuity. The Detroit Lions Podcast will have more as medicals and workouts reshape this board in real time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OzHbLEbLDg #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #taylordecker #bradholmes #dancampbell #nflscoutingcombine #lucasoilfield #offensivetackle #edgerusher #spencerfano #francismanu #caleblomu #monroefraley #isaiahwood #kirby #branchachilles #pick17 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Detroit Lions Podcast lit the fuse on NFL Combine week with real news and real stakes. On Bish & Brown, Scott Bischoff, Russell Brown, and Chris reacted in real time to Taylor Decker signaling Year 11, then zeroed in on what the combine means for Detroit and this draft class.Decker’s Year 11 and What It Means at TackleMid-show, Decker posted “Year 11” with a tunnel photo. The room shifted. His return stabilizes left tackle and the Lions’ core up front. It does not end the draft conversation at offensive tackle. The hosts said pick 17 could still be in play, citing Monroe Fraley out of Georgia as a target they have championed. Depth, succession planning, and premium position value keep the door open. Trent Williams chatter framed the urgency earlier. Decker’s post clarified the baseline: Detroit can build from strength instead of scrambling at a cornerstone spot.Defense on the Clock, Injuries in ViewThe offseason remains complex. The discussion turned to veterans like Graham Glasgow and David Montgomery, and the ripple effects of injuries on defense. The Lions may not have Kirby Joseph or Ryan Branch to start the year. That uncertainty shapes free agency and draft priorities. The hosts stressed that this week is a launch point, not a finish line. Decisions on defense will hinge on medical timelines and what value appears after the combine testing and interviews.Combine Week: Drills, Data, and Day-Two TargetsThis is a true preview. Not every prospect will run or test. Some will skip the 40 yard dash. Others will pass on bag drills or the three cone drill. The hosts plan to stack 10 to 12 players each, from top names to day two guys, and let the tape and testing meet in the middle. Thursday will reveal who works and who waits for pro day.Spotlight: Jeremiah Love’s Rare Movement SkillsPotentially the top player in the draft depending on who you ask, Notre Dame running back Jeremiah Love drew a long look. One host admitted there is no path to Detroit for him, but the evaluation matters. Love is different. Lateral quickness. Smooth stride. He glides and explodes. He was used more down the field in the passing game this year and looks like a three down, workhorse type. The measurables feel secondary because the movement is so clean, but the compare-and-contrast on change of direction against this running back class will be telling. He is viewed as far and away the superior runner in the group. That context helps calibrate the board for where the Lions do shop on days two and three. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #nflscoutingcombine #taylordeckeryear11 #trentwilliamsbuzz #grahamglasgow #davidmontgomery #kirbyjosephinjury #ryanbranchinjury #daytwoguys #40yarddash #threeconedrill #bagdrills #jeremiahlovenotredame #offensivetackleatpick17 #monroefraleygeorgia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Coaching Staff Set: Titles, Roles, ContinuityThe Detroit Lions locked in their coaching staff on Monday, and the announcement landed with steadiness, not shock. Dan Campbell remains at the top. Drew Pessing is confirmed as offensive coordinator. Scotty Montgomery holds the associate head coach title. Safeties coach Jim O'Neil adds the assistant head coach role. Continuity is the headline.Caleb Collins is listed as a defensive assistant. Fraley is back as a running coordinator. Bruce Gradkowski, a former NFL quarterback, moves into the assistant wide receivers coach spot after a year as an offensive assistant. The Lions like his trajectory. Other teams do too. That momentum matters.One familiar name returns in a fresh lane. Dan Skipper is now an offensive assistant. The role is nonspecific by design. Expect Skipper to live in the film room, move between position groups, and serve as a trusted bridge between players and coaches. He just retired. He knows the locker room. That can pay off on long practice weeks.Defense: Why They’re Running It BackThe defensive staff remains intact aside from O'Neil's added title. That decision stirred reaction after uneven results. The context matters. Before the bye, with a healthy secondary, Detroit ranked as a top-eight defense in scoring and yards per game. The plan worked when the pieces were available. Then injuries hit. Results slid.Late in the year, Kelvin Sheppard mixed things up. Fronts changed. Coverage rules shifted. Blitz patterns evolved. The staff adjusted to the talent on hand and found gains in the final two games. That flexibility is part of why they are running it back.The defensive line is the pressure point. Kacy Rogers returns after a difficult first season. There were late signs of progress. Work with Tyleik Williams and Roy Lopez began to show. More technique wins. Better finish on plays. Year two needs to convert flashes into production.New and Notable: Passing Game and Specialist RolesDavid Shaw stays on as passing game specialist after previously serving as passing game coordinator. He arrived with John Morton, who is back in Denver at his old job. The shift from coordinator to specialist narrows his scope and clarifies lanes around the passing game build.Indianapolis Notes and Draft BuzzThe Detroit Lions Podcast checked in from Indianapolis on a frigid morning with early draft rumors floating in the air. Most of the NFL arrives today. Brad and Dan are scheduled to speak this afternoon, with Pessing also set to meet with the media on Tuesday. Those sessions will shape how the finalized staff plans to deploy scheme tweaks, personnel development, and the next wave of additions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v7HazlUBgM #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #detroitlionscoachingstaff #indianapolisdraftbuzz #2026nfldraft #lionscoaches #kelvinsheppard Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Defense Set the Tone Across the NFLMichael Grey welcomed Kevin Kugler for one last look at the 2025-26 NFL season. The Detroit Lions Podcast audience got a simple theme. Defense carried the year. Teams with great defensive play stayed in the mix. Seattle did it. Houston did it. Denver did it. Cleveland had a good defense but lacked answers elsewhere. The lesson was clear. Pair a good defense with at least a serviceable offense and you can go a long way.Seattle’s Surprise and the Sam Darnold QuestionSeattle opened with questions everywhere. How good would the defense be? How good would the coaching staff be? Could Sam Darnold hold up? They found answers. The defense led. The offense stayed steady. Darnold avoided the meltdown many expected. Even late, including the Super Bowl, he did not have that three interception game. It was not flashy. It was solid. That was enough.Limits Exposed: Houston, Denver, ClevelandHouston rode defense while searching for consistent quarterback play from CJ Stroud. The running game never really arrived. Still, Houston reached the divisional round because the defense was that good. Denver showed the other side. When Bo Nix went down, the margin vanished. Even a strong defense has limits when the offense dries up. Cleveland offered a final reminder. A pretty good defense, by itself, is not a plan. You need something to go with it.Copycat Season, Combine ClockThis is a copycat league. Teams will try to become the next Seattle. Good luck. Finding another Nick Emmanwori will be hard. Replicating what Mike McDonald did with the Wolverines and in Baltimore will be harder. The search will expand to the transaction wire. Who is the next Sam Darnold? Who is the next Daniel Jones before injury? Veterans will get long looks. The combine is underway. The draft is coming fast. Balance is the goal. Lions fans know the assignment. Build a roster that marries reliable offense with a defense that can win field position and save possessions. That is the blueprint that traveled, week after week, across a long season in the NFL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPUL186C-ek #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #seattleseahawks #samdarnold #houstontexans #denverdefense #clevelandbrowns #cjstroud #runninggame #divisionalround #copycatleague #mikemcdonald #baltimore #bonix #danieljones #combine #draft Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Combine Week Opens Under a Storm CloudThe Detroit Lions hit Indianapolis as travel trouble grips the NFL combine. Flights from the East Coast stalled. Media and colleagues got stuck. Coach and GM podiums scheduled for Tuesday could shuffle. Brad and Dan are slated to speak, but timing depends on who makes it into town.Indianapolis feels familiar. This is the sixteenth combine trip for our on-site voice. He arrived late Friday and is here through Saturday night. The weekend included a stop at the Indiana Volleyball Academy for his daughter’s tournament. The weather is stubbornly Grey. A move to a new hotel happens tomorrow to escape the road noise.Lions, Gibbs Eye Highest-Paid RB DealThe headline in Detroit is clear. Multiple reports indicate the Lions and Gibbs are closing on a contract that would make him the highest paid running back in the NFL. The expected figure hovers around $20 million per year on a three- or four-year deal.Gibbs earned it. He changed the offense. Explosive runs flipped field position. Catch-and-run plays from simple swing passes created 25-yard first downs and red-zone setups. He is not a standard running back in this scheme. The Lions built calls to maximize his space and speed. He is indispensable to what the offense wants to do.Market context tracks with that price. Recent top deals include Saquon Barkley at $20 million, Christian McCaffrey at $19 million, with James Cook and Jonathan Taylor lower due to production and injury variables. Age matters. Production matters more. Gibbs checks the boxes for Detroit.Cap Mechanics and What Comes NextExpect the familiar structure. The Lions use void years to ease the early cap hits. Front-loading flexibility keeps space for other premium contracts. That matters because more big checks are coming. Two years from now, more core pieces will need new money. The cycle continues if the window is to stay open.The order of operations explains the timing. LaPorta is still injured. Branch is still injured. Jameson Williams is already handled. Jack Campbell could be next, but Gibbs sits at the front of the line now. The calculus is simple. The Lions do not win as often without him.So the week begins with two watch items. First, how the combine schedule adapts to the travel mess. Second, whether the Gibbs figures solidify near that $20 million average with three or four years attached. The Detroit Lions Podcast will ride both stories from downtown Indianapolis as the interviews start and the deals take shape. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #jahmyrgibbs #contractextension #scoutingcombine #akheemmesidor #joshcuevas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott Bischoff and Russell Brown returned to the Detroit Lions Podcast with a tight focus. What should the Detroit Lions do at No. 17 in the NFL Draft? The board points to two paths. A press corner who fits the defense. Or an offensive tackle that stabilizes the offense under Drew Petzing. They set the table, compared notes from recent film, and laid out the cases.Press Corner Case: Colton Wood at No. 17Colton Wood drew early attention. Scott called him a stylistic match for the Lions. Press traits. Physical hands. A willingness to tackle. He steps up and hits. The profile checks out. At six foot and around 195, he looks built for press man. He anticipates routes in off coverage. He stacked a strong Senior Bowl week. The questions are clear. How does his long speed hold when asked to recover? Can he stay clean at the line and finish reps downfield? If the Lions want to roll with press outside, Wood is one of the class options they would stare at.Scott also left the door open for a different DB at 17. A possible safety, or a very aggressive slot corner, could still drive how this defense operates. That aligns with how they want to play. It would not be tackle or edge, but it would fit the identity.What a Corner Pick Signals for DetroitRussell weighed the room. He noted the club already spent money for DJ Reed and used draft capital two years ago for Terry Ryan Arnold. Taking a corner at 17 could say a lot. It might mean they are out on Rakestraw. It would add real competition. It could push the depth chart and sharpen the group. He would be fine with Wood there. The tape shows consistent, physical play and sharp route awareness. But he flagged the cost. Corner at 17 tips the hand and reshapes expectations across the room.Offensive Tackle or Bust, and Blake MillerRussell kept circling back to one thing. Offensive tackle or bust at 17. The offense under Drew Petzing makes that path compelling. Protect the quarterback. Keep the run game square. Create balance. That set up his recent study of Clemson’s Blake Miller. The lower body movement jumped out. The footwork and range looked promising. He expects Miller to test well. The takeaway was simple. If the Lions want a long-term bookend, this draft gives them a chance to get one without forcing the board.Combine Watch and What Comes NextThe hosts will dig into drills and events next week and push a deeper combine preview before 3 PM Thursday when the combine kicks off. They plan to track corners in press periods, safeties and slot players in space, and offensive tackles through movement testing. The evaluations will tighten. The board at 17 will come into focus. The Detroit Lions Podcast will have it covered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1128gDn0Ok #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #nfldraft #coltonwood #pressmancorner #pick17 #safetyorslotcorner #seniorbowlweek #blakemiller #clemsonoffensivetackle #drewpetzingoffense #rakestraw #djreed #routeanticipation #combinedrills Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pre-Combine Focus on Pick 17Jeff Risdon set the stage on the Detroit Lions Podcast with a clear mission. It is Friday, February 20, and the NFL Combine is next. He heads to Indianapolis early tomorrow. The focus is pick number 17 for the Detroit Lions.Interest around that slot is intense after Daniel Jeremiah’s press conference. Based on current projections, five names stand out heading into the week. The board can change after testing and interviews. For now, these are the most likely targets.Keldrick Falk fits the Lions' blueprintAuburn edge Keldrick Falk leads the defensive options. He plays with power to speed and a crush-the-can style that pairs with Aidan Hutchinson. He is 20 years old. He owns exceptional football character. He was a team captain and a culture builder by reputation.Production has not matched traits yet. Auburn used him as an end in a three man front last season, not a four man front. That put him in the b gap and exposed him to extra blockers from guards and tackles. His get-off is not twitchy, but he showed late-season growth shedding outside blocks and finishing. He has workable pass rush moves. Athletically, he compares favorably to Levi Onwuzurike.If the Lions go defense at 17 and skip offensive tackle, Falk is the pick on this pre-combine board. He sits as No. 22 overall here, so it would be a slight reach. The combine could tighten that gap.Tackles on the board: Monroe Fraley, Blake MillerGeorgia offensive tackle Monroe Fraley surged after Jeremiah’s praise. He is a left tackle who has played some right tackle. He is long and balanced. His pass protection improved over the season. He stays square with shoulders, hips, and feet aligned to the rusher. That trait shows up in elite NFL tackles.Fraley’s run blocking needs cleaner technique. He lunges more than he attacks at times. Still, the pass pro floor and size profile fit what the Detroit Lions value.Right tackle Blake Miller, from Jackson, is gaining momentum as the combine nears. His name rose alongside Fraley in recent conversations. If Detroit prioritizes tackle at 17, both belong in the discussion.TJ Parker’s surge and Hatten Proctor’s caseClemson edge TJ Parker used the Senior Bowl to recharge his stock. He looked more like the early-season version of himself and answered some questions. He slots into the edge mix behind Falk as a viable play at 17 if the board breaks right.Alabama’s Hatten Proctor continues to land in mocks for Detroit. He remains a frequent projection even if the preference leans elsewhere. The buzz is steady enough that he cannot be ignored at 17.This is the pre-combine snapshot. Testing, medicals, and interviews in Indianapolis will move names up and down. For now, those are the five most likely paths for the Detroit Lions at pick number 17. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #picknumber17 #nflcombine #keldricfaulk #monroefreeling #blakemiller #tjparker #kadynproctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Daniel Jeremiah dropped real Detroit Lions intel on a two-hour NFL pre-combine conference call with roughly 150 media members. Three Lions-centric questions made the queue. The answers steered straight to offensive tackle and contingency planning. This Detroit Lions Podcast zeroes in on what matters for pick 17 and March.OT at 17: Monroe Freeling and Blake MillerAsked about offensive tackles at No. 17, Jeremiah immediately named Monroe Freeling of Georgia and Blake Miller of Clemson as fits he believes the Detroit Lions could consider. It is early in the process, and these are his opinions, but those were the first two prospects he tied to Detroit’s draft slot. Both are squarely in the conversation before the NFL combine.Why Freeling resonates: learning curve and toughnessJeremiah outlined why Freeling stands out. Quick learner. Still improving. Limited experience but trending up. He added an off-field note with on-field value: Freeling’s mother is a yoga instructor, which he views as a positive for injury prevention. He also relayed a durability moment. Freeling was expected to miss a game with a high ankle sprain. He said he felt healthy enough to go, entered on an emergency basis, then played the entire game and played well. That combination of growth, recovery habits, and resilience landed with the room.Free-agent tackle buzz and the contingency mapUnprompted, Jeremiah said the Lions are sniffing around the free agent offensive tackle class. He did not elaborate. On the podcast, we walked through the practical outcomes of that note. It can be veteran insurance if a rookie tackle is the pick at 17. It can cover the possibility that Giovanni Manu is not ready to be the next man up. It can protect the depth spot that Dan Skipper filled. The class lacks sizzle, but there are playable options.Jermaine Illuminore has had decent starting stretches with the Lions and Raiders. He is not Taylor Decker, but he can start if needed. Braxton Jones is coming off a rough season. Jack Conklin brings a long injury history in Cleveland. Former Michigan State Spartan. Chicago area roots. Tough profile, but questions remain. Many in this market are primarily right tackles.This draft also gives Detroit room to stack swings. Beyond Freeling and Miller, there are many tackles in range throughout the weekend. Names mentioned as possibilities included Spencer Branch Manu, Caleb Holmes, Caleb Tiernan, and Dimitris Brown of Texas A and M as a Day 3 type the Lions could like. Doubling up is not out of the question if the board cooperates. For the Detroit Lions, the path at tackle runs through No. 17 and the veteran aisle. The next two weeks before the NFL combine will sharpen it. #detroitlions #lions #detroitlionspodcast #nfl #monroefreeling #blakemiller #freeagentoffensivetackles #taylordecker #giovannimanu #danieljeremiah #highanklesprain #jermaineilluminore #braxtonjones #jacksonconklin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices