

heretics.
Andrew Gold
What makes you a heretic? Journalist Andrew Gold talks to everyone from cult defectors and politicians to mainstream celebrities—people who’ve challenged the expected script and lived with the consequences.
Guests include Robbie Williams, Chris Packham, David Baddiel, Richard Dawkins, Bonnie Blue, and former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss.
Guests include Robbie Williams, Chris Packham, David Baddiel, Richard Dawkins, Bonnie Blue, and former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss.
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Aug 30, 2021 • 1h 11min
68: Will Storr: Why virtue signalling & dominance are part of our status game
Will Storr has been gaining a reputation as one of the foremost non-fiction writers in the UK over the past few years, starting with his exploration of people with extreme beliefs in his book Heretics.
His phenomenal follow-up Selfie about how the West became so self-obsessed and individualistic put him in the big leagues of journalistic writers. He then wrote the Science of Storytelling, which is supposed to be brilliant, but I’ve not had the chance to read yet – and today we’re here to talk about his latest book – The Status Game.
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Will Storr links:
The Status Game: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Status-Game-Will-Storr/dp/0008354634/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+status+game&qid=1629382267&sr=8-1
https://twitter.com/wstorr
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Aug 23, 2021 • 1h 8min
67: How to have better arguments: Ian Leslie
Writer Ian Leslie discusses how to argue better from his book Conflicted. We discuss the Wright Brothers, relationship scientists and much more.
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Ian Leslie Links:
Buy the book Conflicted: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Conflicted-Arguments-Tearing-Apart-Together/dp/0571346944
Read Ian's substack, The Ruffian: https://ianleslie.substack.com
Follow Ian on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrianleslie
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Aug 16, 2021 • 1h 15min
66: Stabbed by a kebab skewer: Forensic Psychologist Kerry Daynes
Today, we've got Kerry Daynes, a famous forensic psychologist who has worked in prisons and police stations with some of the most dangerous or sometimes misunderstood criminals and patients. One such patient stabbed her with a kebab skewer. Let's take a trip inside dangerous minds.
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Kerry Daynes Links
What Lies Buried: A forensic psychologist's true stories of madness, the bad and the misunderstood by Kerry Daynes is published by Endeavour, 19th of August 2021, www.octopusbooks.co.uk
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Aug 9, 2021 • 1h 7min
65: What it's really like inside scientology: Chris Shelton
Former scientologist Chris Shelton talks about his time in the cult of scientology and exposes the truth about Tom Cruise and David Miscavige.
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Chris Shelton Links:
Chris' full channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF326xyA0QHI7Z5xAwKQDJg
Chris' clips:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpENFJv6TpF-2FB8bgqT2-Q
Scientology: A to Xenu:
https://www.amazon.com/Scientology-Xenu-Insiders-Guide-About/dp/1522879323/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=scientology+a+to+xenu&qid=1627406758&sr=8-2
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Aug 6, 2021 • 18min
66: John McWhorter - FREE Bonus Episode!
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Aug 2, 2021 • 1h 8min
64: Inside The World's Strictest School: Katharine Birbalsingh, Headmistress
Today, we’re taking a walk down the corridors of the world’s strictest school. Of course, I’m talking metaphorically, because if we were walking down the corridors of Michaela, a school in Brent, north London, we’d have to be dead silent. That’s how headmistress and founder, Katharine Birbalsingh likes it, and given the exceptional results of the children – many of whom come from inner-city poverty – who am I to argue with it?
Katharine Birbalsingh Links:
https://twitter.com/Miss_Snuffy
Michaela: The Power of Culture: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiger-Teachers-Take-Katharine-Birbalsingh/dp/191290621X
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Jul 26, 2021 • 1h 18min
63: Ex-Scientologist Jon Atack exposes the cult
Ex-scientologist Jon Atack exposes the cult of scientology, talking about everything from Tom Cruise and Mao Zedong to free will and the difference between religion and cult.
Jon Atack Links:
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI4tcSMV2kEh3BooY_XFSYQ/featured
Poetry Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9HjRxCl6L-FkUp9qBybNGg
Opening Our Minds book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/opening-minds-manipulation-influence-brainwashing/dp/0997109637
Let's Sell These People a Piece of Blue Sky book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-sell-these-people-Piece/dp/1482023032
Scientology: the Cult of Greed book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/SCIENTOLOGY-Cult-Greed-Jon-Atack/dp/150549012X
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Jul 19, 2021 • 1h 2min
62: My face blindness, memory loss...and Memento: Thomas Leeds
Thomas Leeds was hit by a car when he was 20, flipping over its roof, crushing the vehicle and landing on his head. Remarkably, he had few physical signs of trauma, so was released from hospital, before being taken back in later to remove a blood clot on his brain.
On his return home, he found he didn’t recognise home, or the people around him who were apparently his family. In fact, he’d pretty much lost all memory of anything from before the accident. Moreover, he developed face blindness, meaning he is unable to tell people apart from their faces.
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Jul 12, 2021 • 1h 8min
61: Neuroscientist who found out he's a psychopath: Dr. James Fallon
Dr. James Fallon is renowned for his work in psychopathy. But a chance occurrence led him to realise something dark about his own family history...and the brain scans concurred...
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Dr. James Fallon Links:
The Psychopath Inside book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Psychopath-Inside-Neuroscientists-Personal-Journey/dp/1591846005
https://twitter.com/jameshfallon
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Jul 5, 2021 • 1h 6min
60: The Woman Who Walked The World: Angela Maxwell
today on the show is Angela Maxwell, who walked 20,000 miles or 32,000 kilometres around the entire globe. It took her the best part of six years to do so, and she learned about as much about life as is humanly possible. She’s just back now – having overcome all sorts of adversity on the trip - she suffered from sunburn blisters and heatstroke in the Australian desert and dengue fever in Vietnam. Things hit a real low point, when a man broke into her tent in Mongolia, and raped her. We’ll discuss those moments, as much as the myriad positive interactions and experiences. She, better than most of us, has experienced the limits of life, so I’m honoured that she’s here to share that experience with all of us.
Angela Maxwell Links:
https://twitter.com/angelamariemax
https://www.instagram.com/angelamariemaxwell
https://www.shewalkstheearth.com
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