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Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD
Ranked as one of Apple’s Top 10 Social Science podcasts, Therapist Uncensored delivers trusted, science-backed insights on mental health and secure relationships. With over 11 million downloads worldwide, this female-led, independent podcast puts you right in the therapy room, making powerful psychological insights accessible and actionable. Co-hosts Sue Marriott, LCSW CGP and Ann Kelley, PhD break down complex ideas into practical wisdom you can use immediately. They’re joined by top neuroscientists, world-renown relationship experts and outside-the-box perspectives to share cutting-edge research and strategies for building stronger connections with yourself and others. Shownotes at www.therapistuncensored.com Transform how you understand your mind, your relationships, and yourself.
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Mar 24, 2026 • 15min
Bonus – Hormones, Libido, and the Missing Conversation About Women’s Bodies with Dr. Christine Vaccaro (294)
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Bonus – Hormones, Libido, and the Missing Conversation About Women’s Bodies with Dr. Christine Vaccaro (294)
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We’ve normalized not understanding women’s bodies.
Dr. Christine Vaccaro helps demystify women’s sexual health – exploring everything from hormones and anatomy to libido and pelvic floor challenges. Together, we break down what’s often misunderstood or overlooked, offering clear, empowering insights to help women better understand their bodies and advocate for their care.
“You don’t want women to have to choose between mental health or sexual health.” – Dr. Christine Vaccaro
Time Stamps for Bonus – Hormones, Libido, and the Missing Conversation About Women’s Bodies with Dr. Christine Vaccaro (294)
00:49 Understanding the complexity of women’s sexual health
06:53 Libido and sexual health
09:36 Gender equity in sexual health education
12:36 The Clitoris: Anatomy and function
15:12 Hormones and their impact on sexual health
30:57 Navigating hormonal changes in Perimenopause and Menopause
34:09 The role of Testosterone in women’s health
51:53 Pelvic floor health and its impact on women
58:02 Importance of sexual health awareness
About our Guest – Dr. Christine Vaccaro
She is a double board-certified and fellowship trained urogynecologist & reconstructive pelvic surgeon with advanced training in sexual medicine. She is an expert in treating urogynecological conditions and has conducted research on interstitial cystitis (IC), pelvic floor disorders, and clitoral anatomy. Dr. Vaccaro is an active member of both the American Urogynecologic Society (AUGS) and the Society of Gynecologic Surgeons (SGS), where she contributes to multiple committees focused on advancing education and research.Dr. Vaccaro has been practicing medicine for over 20 years in the military, and graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1999, with a major in Chemistry/Life Sciences, Nuclear Engineering Track. She received her Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) degree in 2003 from the University of North Texas Health Science Center. She completed her OB/GYN residency training in 2007 at Madigan Army Medical Center, Tacoma, WA and her Urogynecology fellowship training in 2011 at Good Samaritan Hospital, Cincinnati, OH. Dr. Vaccaro retired from the U.S. Army with the rank of Colonel, after serving as Fellowship Program Director and Service Chief of Urogynecology & Reconstructive Pelvic Surgery at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.
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Mar 17, 2026 • 42min
How Music Heals What Words Can’t with Ann Koplow (293)
Some feelings can’t be said – but they can be sung
Ann Koplow shares her journey as a therapist and musician, discussing the healing power of music, her experiences with a rare heart condition, and the importance of authenticity in therapy. She emphasizes the role of shamelessness in creative expression and how songwriting serves as a therapeutic tool for both herself and her clients. The conversation explores the impact of music on mental health, the creation of community through shared experiences, and the necessity of letting go of shame to embrace one’s true self.
“Every day is a gift. Let go of your shame. Be your authentic self.” – Ann Koplow, LCSW, CGP
About our Guest – Ann Koplow, LCSW, CGP
Ann Koplow is a clinical social worker, certified group therapist, and singer-songwriter who uses psychotherapy and music to help people grow and connect. She facilitates six open-access “Coping and Healing” groups a week at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston and is a past president of the Northeastern Society for Group Psychotherapy. She has yet to publish any articles or books about her innovative model for group therapy because she’s better at short-form creations like songs, including “Triggers,” “Everybody’s Somebody’s Asshole,” “Catastrophizing,” “Other People’s Anger,” “Don’t Kill Yourself,” and her protest song “You Don’t Scare Me!” When she shares her songs in her groups, the members appreciate her relatable and accepting messages like “I Left the House Before I Felt Ready” and “It’s Hard to Get Sh*t Done When You’re Scared Sh*tless.” Her patients express concern that she will get too famous and leave the groups behind, but that’s just not going to happen. Her album The Singing Therapist — Live at the Lilypad! and her other songs are available on Spotify, Apple Music, and probably wherever music can be found.
Time Stamps for How Music Heals What Words Can’t with Ann Koplow (293)
05:23 How Ann navigates life living with a heart condition
12:30 Shameless appeals for applause
19:26 Using music in group therapy
26:16 The power of authenticity and relatability in creative expression
31:15 Healing through creative outlets
Resources for How Music Heals What Words Can’t with Ann Koplow (293)
The Year(s) of Living Non-Judgmentally – Ann’s blog
Ann’s Youtube Channel – Check out her music
Ann’s Linktree – Find her social media, blogs, Youtube channel and original songs
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March 19-22nd! In person and online options available. Get your discounted seat HERE!

Mar 3, 2026 • 57min
From Crisis to Connection: Attachment as a Lifeline with Dr. Lisa Firestone (292)
Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions around suicide.
Triggers Aren’t the Problem—They’re the Clue
Co-host Sue Marriott and guest Lisa Firestone examine how attachment wounds, emotional dysregulation, and relational disconnection can quietly escalate into crisis. Together they explore the often-overlooked link between attachment patterns and suicidality, and why understanding your relational blueprint may be one of the most important protective factors you have. Blending research, clinical experience, and practical strategies, this episode offers tools for building emotional resilience, increasing self-awareness, and supporting others through vulnerable moments.
“It is a full-time job to cope with alien elements from both interpersonal sources and societal influences.” – Dr. Lisa Firestone
Myths of Attachment Styles: What Real Science Tells Us
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Time Stamps for From Crisis to Connection: Attachment as a Lifeline with Dr. Lisa Firestone (292)
05:23 Understanding suicide and self-regulation
11:09 Therapeutic approaches to suicidality
16:17 Navigating attachment styles
27:11 Understanding attachment and security
29:53 Interactive exercise on attachment
40:22 Recognizing triggers in relationships
About our Guest – Dr. Lisa Firestone
Lisa Firestone, PhD is a Clinical Psychologist and the Director of Research and Education at the Glendon Association and Senior Editor at PsychAlive.org. She is the author of numerous articles and book chapters and coauthor of the books Self Under Siege, Conquer Your Critical Inner Voice, and Creating a Life of Meaning and Compassion. Dr. Firestone is a national and international trainer and presenter on topics including couple relationships, attachment, suicide and violence prevention assessment and treatment Lisa has been involved in clinical training and research in the areas of suicide and violence which resulted in the development of the assessments Firestone Assessment of Self-destructive Thoughts (FAST) and (FASI) and the Firestone Assessment of Violent Thoughts (FAVT) for adults and adolescents. Lisa Firestone is a clinical psychologist in private practice and consultant on the management of high-risk clients.
Resources for From Crisis to Connection: Attachment as a Lifeline with Dr. Lisa Firestone (292)
Making Sense of Your Life – eCourse with Dr. Dan Siegel and Dr. Lisa Firestone (4 CEs)
Challenging the Fantasy Bond – book by Dr. Robert Firestone
Developing Secure Attachment – Two-Part Online Course (2 CEs)
Beyond Attachment Styles course is available NOW!
Learn how your nervous system, your mind, and your relationships work together in a fascinating dance, shaping who you are and how you connect with others.
Online, Self-Paced, Asynchronous Learning with Quarterly Live Q&A’s – next one April 13, 2026!
Earn 6 Continuing Education Credits – Available at Checkout
As a listener of this podcast, use code BAS15 for a limited-time discount.
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Join us again in Washington, DC for the 49th Annual Psychotherapy Networker!
March 19-22nd! In person and online options available. Get your discounted seat HERE!

Feb 17, 2026 • 1h 7min
Why Long-Term Love Gets Complicated: A Scientific Approach with Dr. Justin Garcia (291)
Dr. Justin Garcia, evolutionary biologist and Kinsey Institute director, explores the science behind pair bonds and sexual behavior. He explains social versus sexual monogamy, how jealousy and attachment are shaped by biology, and why desire shifts across life stages. The conversation also covers neurochemistry of intimacy, sexual diversity, and practical ways couples keep passion through novelty and communication.

Feb 3, 2026 • 1h 2min
Nontoxic Guide to Healthy Living with Dr. Aly Cohen (290)
Dr. Aly Cohen, a board-certified rheumatologist and integrative medicine physician focused on environmental health, explains how everyday chemicals shape immune and mental health. She covers the rise of autoimmune conditions, the gut-brain connection, drinking water safety, plastics and product swaps, and practical, realistic steps to reduce toxic exposures.

Jan 20, 2026 • 50min
Celebrating 10 Years of TU: Growth, Reflections & the Future (289)
Celebrate a decade of growth and reflection in the mental health podcasting space. Discover how the hosts evolved from experts to learners while bridging research with accessibility. They candidly tackle the complexities of vulnerability, privilege, and the need for diverse voices. Listen as they share insights on challenging conventional narratives and the importance of community support in mental health. This heartfelt homage to their listeners is sprinkled with lessons learned and a commitment to continual inclusivity and learning.

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Jan 6, 2026 • 54min
In Each Other’s Care: Building & Sustaining Healthy Relationships with Stan Tatkin – Replay – (288)
Dr. Stan Tatkin, a clinician and co-founder of the PACT Institute, shares invaluable insights on building and sustaining healthy relationships. He discusses the inevitability of conflict and the importance of repair, advocating for secure functioning partnerships that tackle problems together. Tatkin explores the concept of procedural memory, highlighting how attachment styles influence dynamics, even in polyamorous setups. With practical approaches to ensure healthy interdependence, he sheds light on common relationship pitfalls and emphasizes effective communication.

Dec 16, 2025 • 1h 12min
Improv: Fostering Connection in Challenging Conversations – Replay – (287)
A replay episode from our powerful interview with Lisa Kays on how improv can deepen conversations around tough topics like race and oppression.
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Improv in Therapy and in Life –
Explore the power – and sheer fun – of using improvisation in therapy!
Dr. Ann Kelley and Lisa Kays discuss how improv can deepen conversations around tough topics like race and oppression. They examine white supremacy culture and show how improv values like collaboration, slowing down, and embracing complexity can challenge these norms. Improv fosters creativity, playfulness, and self-reflection to help reduce defensiveness and strengthen relationships in everyday life, at work, or in our closest relationships. By creating a supportive, collaborative environment, improv deepens connections and helps people tap into a wider range of emotions.
“A culture of improvisation is collaborative – it is nature – you cannot do it by yourself.” – Lisa Kays
Time Stamps for Improv in Therapy & Life
03:30 The integration of improv and tough conversations
10:03 The origins of improv and its connection to social justice
14:27 Contrasting white supremacy culture and improv culture
19:20 Questioning cultural norms and valuing relationships
25:29 The power of the ‘And’ in joining and connecting
38:27 The power of improv in building secure relationships
53:25 Embracing creativity and letting go of perfectionism
58:12 Creating a culture of support and collaboration
01:05:04 Applying improv in everyday life
01:09:10 Deepening connections and accessing different emotions
About our Guest for Improv Therapy – Lisa Kays LICSW, LCSW, LCSW-C
Lisa Kays, LICSW, LCSW-C, LCSW, is an independently licensed clinical social worker in Washington, D.C, Maryland, Virginia, Oregon and New Jersey. She obtained her MSW from Catholic University in 2011 and has worked in a variety of clinical settings. Since 2013, she has been in private practice, providing individual, couples and group therapy to adults. She has interest in social work ethic and has published on and leads ethics training on the intersection of technology, social media and social work ethics as well as anti-racism and systemic oppression. Her practice also provides opportunities for other presenters to develop CE trainings on under-taught topics linked to social justice, systemic racism, and oppression. In addition to her traditional psychotherapy work, Lisa was a performing improviser from 2007-2019 and was on the faculty of Washington Improv Theatre from 2008-2016. She developed Washington Improv Theater’s first Improv for Therapist’s class and has offered Improv for Therapists courses, workshops and trainings to individual clinicians, pastors, life coaches, and psychiatrists, as well as clinical agencies. Since its inception, Lisa has trained more than 500 people in the application of improvisation to foster personal growth and stronger and more cohesive groups. Lisa has been invited to lead trainings in improv-informed therapy at the American Academy of Psychotherapists, the Mid-Atlantic Group Psychotherapy Association, the American Group Psychotherapy Association, and at The Psychotherapy Networker, among others. Her work has been featured in The Washington Post and on NBC4. Recently, Lisa launched a humor, humility-infused podcast, “What if Nothing’s Wrong With You?” with co-host Paula D. Atkinson on themes related to therapy, mental health, oppression, patriarchy and how it’s all interconnected.
Resources for Improv Therapy –
Lisa Kay’s – Website & Resources
The Fierce Urgency of Now: Improvisation, Rights, and the Ethics of Cocreation (Improvisation, Community, and Social Practice) – by Fischlin, Daniel; Heble, Ajah; Lipsitz, George
Theater Games – Viola Spolin Resources
Rehearsals for Growth – Website and Educational Resources
Decolonizing Therapy: Oppression, Historical Trauma, and Politicizing Your Practice – book by Jennifer Mullan, PsyD
The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron – Book and Resources
Free Play: Improvisation in Life and Art – Nachmanovitch, Stephen
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Dec 2, 2025 • 1h 26min
Trailblazers in Love: Understanding & Advocating for the LGBTQ+ Community with Jeff Lutes – Replay – (286)
A replay episode from our powerful interview with Jeff Lutes, this discussion dives into raising families, the evolution of the community, allyship, gender, and the importance of advocacy.
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“There are a lot of therapists that see themselves as affirming, but I think you have to get actively involved in order to be an ally.” – Jeff Lutes
Time Stamps for Advocating for the LGBTQ+ Community
2:00 – Jeff’s anecdotes about religion and sexuality
11:18 – How advocacy can be a thankless job
12:00 – Introduction to the Contemporary Relationships Conference
14:34 – The difference between being trained in accepting versus educated
16:48 – The importance of knowing the correct terminology
20:39 – What we can learn from the polyamorous community
22:58 – Definition of queer and who that represents
24:37 – Let’s talk about pronouns
31:21 – Explanation of dead naming and why it is wrong
42:15 – Conversion therapy research and findings
47:00: Trailblazers in Love, Jeff’s book
Resources for today’s episode Advocating for the LGBTQ+ Community
Jeff Lute’s Website – Information, credentials, presentations and publications
Contemporary Relationships Conference – Conference information and proposals
Get your copy of his book, Trailblazers in Love, here!!
About our Guest – Jeff Lutes, LPC
Jeff specializes in creating collaborative conversations with clients that generate new possibilities for change. Using a postmodern approach, he listens carefully to each client’s story and strives to understand how they might make meaning of themselves, others, and the world around them. He founded the Contemporary Relationships Conference and has presented to audiences around the country, including the American Association of Marriage & Family Therapy, the American Family Therapy Academy, the American Counseling Association, and the Texas Psychological Association. He is also the author of Trailblazers In Love, as well as chapters in three counseling textbooks. Lutes also wrote a children’s book about adoption, deaf culture, and non-traditional families and has been a contributing writer at Bilerico and Therapy Matters.
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Nov 18, 2025 • 1h 5min
Mind, Body, Heart, Spirit: Embodying Liberation Psychology with Dr. Shena Young – Replay – (285)
A replay episode from our powerful interview with Dr. Shena Young
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“The more that we unlearn, the more that we decolonize our minds, bodies, hearts and spirits” – Dr. Shena Young
Join co-host Sue Marriott and Dr. Shena Young as they dive into liberation psychology and the conflict between intuition and the traditional European model of psychology. Dr. Shena highlights embodying a holistic approach to help heal traumas and deeply root us in our most authentic selves. Whether through connections with nature or the exploration of ancestral traditions, this discussion is enriched with various opportunities to reconnect and liberate our mind, body, heart, and spirit.
About our Guest – Dr. Shena Young (She/Her)
Affectionately known as Dr. Shena (she/her) & spiritually as Iya Osunbunmi Orisasewa, she is a licensed embodiment-focused psychologist–healer, artist, mental health futurist, on-set wellbeing professional, and priestess in the Isese tradition of Ifa. She holds space internationally for individuals, couples, groups, and organizations committed to the ritual of calling themselves back into their bodies as a freedom practice. She owns a private practice, embodied truth healing & psychological services, rooted in Los Angeles, CA where she offers mind–body–heart–spirit care in healing from sexual, racial, intergenerational, and ancestral traumas.
Time Stamps for Embodying Liberation Psychology
1:30 – Dr. Shena’s journey with liberation psychology and decolonization
7:25 – Dr. Shena’s early life and intuition
9:48 – Body language is one of our first languages
18:58 – Understanding the pillars of authenticity
20:52 – Embracing the mind, body, heart, spirit approach
28:21 – Unlearning scarcity and expecting abundance
33:29 – Thinking of currency as seeds
41:37 – New interests in ancient traditions
44:11 – What the act of grounding may look like
51:45 – The decriminalization of psychedelic plant medicines
56:30 – There is power in practicing choice
1:05:01 – Impact of The Color Purple
Resources for today’s episode – Embodying Liberation Psychology
EmbodiedTruthHealing.com – Dr. Shena’s website
Healing Opportunities with Dr. Shena
@EmbodiedTruthHealing – Dr. Shena’s Instagram
Invest in healing programs for BIPOC
Dr. Clenora Hudson-Weems website – Where Dr. Shena first learned about Africana Womanist theory
Body Rites – Dr. Shena’s book. Get your copy!!
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