

Meikles & Dimes
Nate Meikle
Meikles & Dimes is a podcast dedicated to the simple, practical, and underappreciated. Monologue episodes cover science-based topics in decision-making, health, communication, negotiation, and performance psychology. Interview episodes, called Layer 2 episodes, include guests from business, academia, health care, journalism, engineering, and athletics.
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Feb 10, 2025 • 18min
184: Author Elaine Lin Hering on Unlearning Silence
Elaine Lin Hering is a speaker, facilitator, and writer, and she is the author of the USA Today Bestselling book Unlearning Silence. Elaine has taught executive education programs at Harvard, Dartmouth, Tufts, Cal Berkeley, and UCLA and served as a Lecturer at Harvard Law School. And her clients include American Express, Capital One, Google, IBM, Merck, Nike, Salesforce, Shell, Pixar, and the Red Cross. Elaine has B.A.s in Political Science and Music from Cal Berkeley and a J.D. from Harvard Law School.
In this episode we discuss the following:
Silence is a learned behavior. We’re endlessly influenced by culture and society, so it’s important to question assumptions, and ask ourselves: In what ways do we self-censor and in what ways do we silence others?
Just as there is no one best time zone, there is no one best way to speak, to look, to act.
We should always seek out data, but remember that it’s not definitive.
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Feb 3, 2025 • 20min
183: Combating Addiction in a Dopamine-Saturated World | Stanford Professor Dr. Anna Lembke
Dr. Anna Lembke is a Stanford Professor and Medical Director of Addiction Medicine at Stanford University’s School of Medicine. Her latest book, Dopamine Nation, is a New York Times bestseller and has been translated into 30 languages. It examines the effects of being surrounded by abundant sources of instant gratification, such as food, social media, gaming, pornography, and drugs. Anna combines the neuroscience of addiction with the wisdom of recovery to explore the problem of compulsive overconsumption in a dopamine-overloaded world.
In this episode we discuss the following:
Anna learned from her patients in addiction recovery that if they wanted to maintain their recovery, they couldn’t tell a single lie.
One of the reasons lying hurts ourselves and others is because it denies us access to reality, which of course makes it more difficult to deal with reality.
Radical honesty applies to more aspects of life than we may realize. For example, Anna is able to reduce her anxiety before interviews by being radically honest with herself and remembering that she doesn’t have to be all things to all people, she doesn’t have to be anything more than she already is.
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Jan 27, 2025 • 22min
182: The Future of Energy | USC Professor Shon Hiatt
Shon Hiatt is a business professor and director of the Business of Energy Transition initiative at the University of Southern California. He researches entrepreneurship, strategy, innovation, and sustainability, with an emphasis in energy and agribusiness. His work has been published in leading academic journals and featured in popular media outlets. Before joining USC, he was a faculty member at Harvard Business School. In this episode we discuss the following:
The demand for energy, specifically and surprisingly for coal and petroleum, has never been greater, especially with the growth of energy-intensive data centers that power AI. But each energy source comes with tradeoffs, so the more diversified energy sources countries have, the greater potential for resiliency when shocks hit the system.
Estimates indicate that an electric car only becomes less carbon intensive than a combustion engine after it’s been driven for 100,000 miles, in part because dirty energy is often used to charge the batteries, plus mining the material to create the batteries is energy intensive.
While nuclear power is quite clean and becoming much safer, it is especially expensive due to regulatory burdens that haven’t been updated with the latest technology. And while wind and solar help meet overall demand, they cannot reliably hit base load demand.
As Shon tells his students, the holy grail for energy production balances security, safety, affordability, reliability, and cleanliness. In other words, when it comes to energy policy there are no simple solutions. Only tradeoffs.
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Jan 20, 2025 • 20min
181: Transitioning to New Life Phases | Harvard Professor Emerita Teresa Amabile
Teresa Amabile, Professor Emerita, at Harvard Business School, is one of the world’s foremost scholars of creativity. She’s received multiple lifetime achievement awards and is one of the all-time top management scholars by citation count. She’s presented her work at companies and conferences all over the world, including Apple, IDEO, and the World Economic Forum. She is also the author of several books, including her most recent book, Retiring, which examines how people transition to retirement.
Originally educated and employed as a chemist, Teresa received her Ph.D. in psychology from Stanford University. I hope you enjoy learning from Teresa Amabile today.
In this episode we discuss the following:
People have their best days at work, feel the most creative and productive, when they make progress on meaningful work.
People transitioning into new life phases, for example, retirement, are at risk of not feeling productive, if their meaningful work comes to an end.
After interviewing 120 people, Teresa found that those who successfully transition to new life phases do the following: they take action to align their identities with some sort of structure, they strive to be aware of what’s working, and then they adapt accordingly.
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Jan 13, 2025 • 17min
180: Reinvent Yourself | Futurist Ravin Jesuthasan
Ravin Jesuthasan is a global thought leader, futurist, and bestselling author on the future of work. He has authored six books and over 200 articles including 15 for the Harvard Business Review and the Sloan Management Review. He is a regular presenter at the World Economic Forum and has been featured extensively by CNN, BBC, The Wall Street Journal, CNBC, and Fortune, among others. Ravin is also featured prominently on PBS’s widely acclaimed documentary series The Future of Work. He is a frequent guest lecturer at universities around the world including Caltech, Oxford, Northwestern, NYU, and USC. He is also a facilitator of the executive education programs at Caltech.
In this episode we discuss the following:
The skills that got us to where we are may not be sufficient to get us to where we want to go, given the rapidly changing world. So, we need to continually upscale or rescale, to prepare ourselves to do something adjacent or something different.
For Ravin, the journey of reinvention is his destination.
Seek to continually reinvent yourself.
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Jan 6, 2025 • 17min
179: Living In a Digital Village Monitored by AI | Sandra Matz, Columbia Business School Professor
Sandra Matz, Professor at Columbia Business School, is a computational social scientist who studies human behavior using Big Data analytics. She was named a Poets & Quants 40 under 40 Business School Professor, and her new book, Mindmasters, explores how algorithms penetrate the most intimate aspects of our psychology. In this episode we discuss the following:
We now live in a digital village, where AI can learn so much more about us than we realize. And naturally, this ability can be used to influence us for good or bad.
Pay attention to AI progress. Look out for ways it can help us. But also be on the lookout for how it can harm us.
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Dec 30, 2024 • 16min
178: Focus on Strengths over Weaknesses | Sarah Dalton
Sarah Dalton is a partner at Conchie Associates, a consulting firm that uses psychometric assessments to help CEOs and Boards select talented leaders. She is the author of the book, The Five Talents that really Matter, with co-author Barry Conchie. Sarah earned a Masters degree in Industrial and Organizational Psychology from Colorado State University. In this episode we discuss the following:
To achieve our potential, it is most effective to focus on areas where we have some natural ability and curiosity. Motivation and hard work can only take us so far.
Rather than constantly working on our weaknesses, it is often more effective to harness our strengths.
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Dec 23, 2024 • 23min
177: Filmmaker Ken Burns | “I Will Do Whatever Inly Rejoices Me.”
Ken Burns is an icon. He’s been making documentaries for nearly 50 years, and has taught more people about American History than anyone else. His documentaries span topics such as baseball, jazz, national parks, U.S. presidents, authors, and inventors. And his television series, The Civil War, attracted an audience of 40 million during its premiere, becoming the most watched show in the history of public television.
Ken’s films have been honored with dozens of major awards, including seventeen Emmy Awards, two Grammy Awards, and two Oscar nominations. And Ken won the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences and was recently inducted into the Television Academy Hall of Fame.
In this episode we discuss the following:
Ken kept three-ring binders on his desk that had hundreds of rejections. Those binders reminded Ken that we pay for what we get with effort, hard work, and perseverance.
I love how Ken followed his passion. He ignored the conventional advice to move to New York City, and instead followed his heart and moved to New Hampshire, and that made all the difference.
In the words of Emerson: I will so trust that what is deep is holy, that I will do strongly before the sun and moon whatever inly rejoices me, and the heart appoints.
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Dec 16, 2024 • 20min
176: Lying to Help Our Organization | Professor Elizabeth Umphress
Elizabeth Umphress is a professor of management at the University of Washington where she researches ethical decision making and organizational justice. She has been published in the top management journals, including the Academy of Management Journal and Organization Science.
In this episode we discuss the following:
As a PhD student studying unethical behavior, Elizabeth found herself lying to prospective professors about the crime rate in Tulane. She then realized she was doing this to help the school, which prompted her to study unethical pro-organizational behaviors…lies we tell or unethical behaviors we engage in to help or our organizations.
Elizabeth found that we’re especially prone to engage in unethical pro-organizational behaviors when we strongly identify with our organization. To combat this behavior, Elizabeth suggests that we think about other stakeholders who may be harmed by our behavior.
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Dec 9, 2024 • 13min
175: Be Brilliant in the Roles That Best Fit Your Capabilities | Oxford PhD Barry Conchie
Barry Conchie is Founder & President of Conchie Associates, which has a database of over 58,000 C-suite executives. Previously, Barry headed the Gallup organization's Global Leadership Research and Development business.
Born and educated in the UK with PhDs in Cognitive Neuroscience and Statistical Modeling at Oxford, his work for Gallup began in London where he developed their leadership consulting business across Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and eventually the Americas as well.
Barry has 40 years of experience in the areas of psychometric assessment and testing, executive coaching, and team optimization. He has been ranked as one of the top 50 leadership thinkers in the world by Leadership Insights magazine. And he is also the New York Times and Wall Street Journal best-selling co-author of Strengths-Based Leadership.
In this episode we discuss the following:
The reality is that most people are not going to be outstanding leaders. So, we should strive to be brilliant in the roles that best fit our capabilities, and then surround ourselves with people who have complementary skills who are brilliant in their roles.
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