

EdUp Provost
Association of Chief Academic Officers (ACAO)
The EdUp Provost Podcast is a proud member of the EdUp Experience® podcast family, America's leading higher education podcast network. Brought to you by the Association of Chief Academic Officers (ACAO), EdUp Provost offers a platform for sharing best practices, discussing current academic challenges, and promoting the educational and organizational interests of Chief Academic Officers. Each episode provides thought-provoking conversations with leaders in higher education, equipping CAOs with insights and resources to navigate societal challenges and enhance their institutions.
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Nov 1, 2024 • 48min
15. Disrupting the Status Quo in Academia: A Conversation with Bradley Fuster
In this conversation, Gregor Thuswaldner, Ph.D., interviews Bradley Fuster, Provost and Vice President for Academic Affairs at San Francisco Bay University. They discuss the concept of challenger brands in higher education, exploring how these institutions aim to disrupt traditional models and prioritize student success. Fuster shares insights from his experience in various educational settings, highlighting the challenges and opportunities faced by higher education today. The discussion also touches on the absence of tenure at SFBU, the inefficiencies of traditional institutions, and the innovative practices that challenger brands employ to enhance student learning and engagement.
Takeaways
• Challenger brands aim to disrupt traditional higher education models.
• Higher education is facing a crisis with high dropout rates.
• San Francisco Bay University focuses on student success and innovative practices.
• The curriculum must adapt to the rapidly changing job market.
• Challenger brands can serve as models for traditional institutions.

Oct 30, 2024 • 47min
14. Engaging Students in a Tech-Driven World: A Conversation with Julia Hieser and Jason Horne
This conversation focuses on the ASU+GSV Summit, one of the most important annual edtech conferences. Dr. Gregor Thuswaldner’s guests are Jason Horne and Julia Hieser, who discuss the evolution of the Summit, the impact of technology, particularly AI, on education, and the importance of balancing traditional educational values with technological advancements. They emphasize the need for institutions to adapt to rapid changes, the challenges faced in adopting new technologies, and successful examples of innovation in education. The discussion concludes with insights on how provosts can engage with the Summit and contribute to the future of higher education.
Takeaways
• The ASU and GSV Summit is a premier event for education innovation.
• AI is becoming mainstream in educational technology.
• Engagement is a persistent challenge in higher education.
• Technology should enhance, not replace traditional educational values.
• The future of education will be shaped by collaboration and innovation.

Oct 28, 2024 • 54min
13. Provosts Keeping the Faith: A Conversation with Donna Carroll, Kina Mallard, Lamont A. Wells, and Jeff Arnold
This episode features a conversation with four representatives of faith-based higher education organizations:
Donna Carroll, President of the Association of Catholic Colleges and Universities;
Kina Mallard, Executive Director of the North American Association of Methodist Schools, Colleges, and Universities;
Lamont A. Wells, Executive Director of the Network of ELCA Colleges and Universities;
Jeff Arnold, Executive Director of the Association of Presbyterian Colleges and Universities.
This conversation explores the role of provosts at faith-based institutions, emphasizing their unique strengths, challenges, and opportunities in a secular society. The guests discuss the importance of strategic leadership, inclusivity, and maintaining religious identity while fostering academic freedom. They also highlight innovative practices for financial sustainability and the need to attract a diverse student body. The discussion concludes with personal book recommendations that reflect the speakers' insights and experiences in the field.
Takeaways
• Faith-based institutions can thrive by adapting to secular changes.
• Moral leadership is crucial in today's educational landscape.
• Inclusivity in academic culture enhances student engagement.
• Provosts play a key role in balancing values and academic freedom.
• Diversity should be embraced, not just tolerated, in faith-based settings.

Oct 25, 2024 • 46min
12. The Provost's Role in Global Learning: A Conversation with LaNitra M. Berger
In this conversation with EdUp Provost host, Dr.
Gregor Thuswaldner, Dr. LaNitra M. Berger discusses her journey from a curious student in San Bernardino, California, to becoming an influential figure in art
history and international education. She emphasizes the importance of global education and the transformative experiences it can provide, particularly for underrepresented students. The discussion also covers the critical role of provosts in advancing international education, the need for inclusive practices in study abroad programs, and the impact of technology on global learning. Dr. Berger shares insights on fostering a welcoming environment for international students and building meaningful partnerships between institutions.
Takeaways
Provosts play a crucial role in advancing global education initiatives.
Supporting underrepresented students is essential for equitable access to study abroad.
Community philanthropy can significantly enhance study abroad opportunities.
Fostering a welcoming environment for international students is vital.
Integrating global learning into curricula benefits all
students.

Oct 23, 2024 • 51min
11. Between Free Speech and Cancel Culture. A Conversation with Jonathan Zimmerman
In this conversation, Dr. Gregor Thuswaldner and Dr.
Jonathan Zimmerman, the Judy and Howard Berkowitz Professor in Education at the University of Pennsylvania, discuss the complexities of free speech, cancel culture, and the role of education in fostering open dialogue within universities. Prof. Zimmerman emphasizes the need for academic leaders to navigate the challenges of political pressures while maintaining a commitment
to liberal values and quality teaching. He critiques the current state of higher education, highlighting the importance of adapting to modern student needs and the historical impact of social movements on educational practices. Dr. Zimmerman also reflects on the significance of teaching quality and the need for universities to prioritize meaningful education over mere compliance with external pressures.
Takeaways
We must recommit to liberal values in education.
Fear inhibits learning and open dialogue
Free speech is essential for effective education.
Cancel culture affects both sides of the political spectrum.
Empathy is crucial for academic leaders navigating challenges.

Oct 21, 2024 • 37min
10. The Provost’s Role in Independent Colleges: A Conversation with Marjorie Hass
In this engaging conversation with EdUp Provost host Dr.
Gregor Thuswaldner, Dr. Marjorie Hass, President of the Council of Independent Colleges, discusses the multifaceted role of provosts in higher education, particularly in independent colleges. She highlights the unique challenges faced by provosts, the importance of aligning institutional mission, culture, and business models, and the critical role of faculty in enrollment strategies. Dr. Hass also addresses the pressing issues of affordability and value in higher education, the need for innovation and adaptability in a changing landscape, and the specific challenges women face in leadership roles. She offers valuable insights and advice for aspiring female provosts and emphasizes the importance of support systems within academic institutions.
Takeaways
Building relationships is crucial for provosts,
especially in smaller institutions.
Alignment of mission, culture, and business
model is essential for institutional success.
Faculty engagement in admissions can
significantly impact enrollment.
Understanding the value proposition is key to
addressing affordability concerns.
Women in leadership roles face unique challenges
that require structural support.

Oct 17, 2024 • 38min
9. The Entrepreneurial Provost: A Conversation with Jeffrey Buller
In this conversation, Dr. Gregor Thuswaldner and Dr. Jeffrey Buller discuss the concept of entrepreneurial academic leadership, emphasizing the need for flexibility and adaptability in higher education. Dr. Buller, a higher education expert for over 30 years, differentiates between genuine entrepreneurial leadership and cliched descriptors. This episode explores the challenges faced by provosts and highlights the importance of balancing profit
orientation with institutional mission. Dr. Buller also addresses the necessity of calculated risk-taking, owning mistakes, and the evolving landscape of higher education leadership.
Takeaways
Entrepreneurial academic leadership requires flexibility and adaptability.
The term 'entrepreneurial' can mean different things to different people.
Provosts face unique challenges in balancing diverse
academic programs.
Profit orientation should focus on reinvesting in the
institution.
Mistakes are inevitable; owning them is crucial for growth.

Oct 15, 2024 • 38min
8. The Provost's Marketing Playbook: A Conversation with Terry Flannery
In this conversation, Dr Gregor Thuswaldner and Dr. Terry
Flannery discuss the critical role of provosts in shaping and supporting university marketing strategies. Dr. Flannery emphasizes the importance of collaboration between provosts and chief marketing officers, the need for a compelling academic brand, and overcoming skepticism among faculty regarding marketing. Dr. Flannery also highlights the significance of digital marketing, data-driven strategies, and building relationships with alumni and donors. The discussion touches on future trends in higher education marketing and the necessity of integrating marketing efforts across various university divisions.
Takeaways
- Provosts are essential partners in marketing strategy.
- Building trust between provosts and CMOs is crucial.
- Marketing should align with institutional strategy.
- Provosts must have courage to differentiate their institutions.
- Effective marketing is about creating value exchanges.
Sound Bites
"Provosts are chief marketing officers' most important partners."
"Marketing strategy is really institutional strategy."
"Building trust is essential for effective collaboration."

Oct 10, 2024 • 40min
7. Reshaping the Narrative of Liberal Arts: A Conversation with Lynn Pasquerella
In this conversation, EdUp Provost host, Dr. Gregor
Thuswaldner discusses the pressing challenges facing liberal arts institutions with Dr. Lynn Pasquerella, President of the Association of Colleges and Universities (AAC&U). She emphasizes the importance of liberal education in
fostering critical thinking, ethical reasoning, and civic engagement while also addressing the need for provosts to adapt curricula to integrate emerging technologies like AI. The discussion highlights the role of organizations like
AAC&U in supporting provosts and reshaping the narrative around the value of liberal arts education, particularly in the context of diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Takeaways
- Liberal arts education is crucial for democratizing opportunity.
- Liberal arts foster critical thinking and civic engagement.
- Diversity, equity, and inclusion are integral to education.
- Interdisciplinary approaches enhance learning outcomes.
- AAC&U provides resources for provosts' support.

Oct 8, 2024 • 42min
6. Provosts and Fundraising: A Conversation with Jim Langley
In this conversation, Gregor Thuswaldner discusses the
evolving role of provosts in fundraising within higher education with Jim Langley, President of Langley Innovations. Langley highlights the importance of understanding donor motivations, creating conditions for investment, and avoiding common mistakes in fundraising practices. He advocates for a shift towards authenticity and partnership in fundraising efforts, encouraging provosts to leverage their academic networks effectively. The conversation concludes with insights on the significance of building meaningful relationships with
donors and the impact of literature on personal and professional growth.
Takeaways
Fundraising is shifting from institutional to specific
academic unit support.
Provosts need to develop skills in partnership building and
understanding donor motivations.
Effective fundraising requires creating conditions for
investment in academic initiatives.
Provosts should avoid common mistakes like being
laissez-faire in fundraising efforts.
Donors increasingly want to engage in problem-solving rather than just giving money.


