

Choose the Hard Way
Andrew Vontz
Conversations about how hard things build stronger humans who have more fun.
Guests from pro cycling, sports, politics, business, tech, journalism, the military and more. Resilience, grit, mental health, high performance, mindfulness. Host Andrew Vontz is an entrepreneur & founder of One Real Voice, the strategic & coaching consultancy for podcast guests & hosts. Previously, he was a Strava executive; a communications leader at the human performance company, TRX; and a journalist with hundreds of bylines in dozens of top outlets including The LA Times, Outside Magazine, Rolling Stone and more.
Guests from pro cycling, sports, politics, business, tech, journalism, the military and more. Resilience, grit, mental health, high performance, mindfulness. Host Andrew Vontz is an entrepreneur & founder of One Real Voice, the strategic & coaching consultancy for podcast guests & hosts. Previously, he was a Strava executive; a communications leader at the human performance company, TRX; and a journalist with hundreds of bylines in dozens of top outlets including The LA Times, Outside Magazine, Rolling Stone and more.
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Mar 8, 2022 • 1h 4min
Pro Cycling, the Future of Journalism, the Business of Content -- Beyond the Peloton founder Spencer Martin
In the early 2000s one of the freelance journalism gigs I enjoyed the most was writing Tour de France commentary for Fox Sports during the Lance and Floyd Landis eras. I love cycling and cycling journalism, and today my guest is Spencer Martin who is one of the hottest creative and business talents in cycling journalism today. Spencer is the founder of Beyond the Peloton, a freemium substack and podcast that analyzes pro road racing at an unprecedented level of depth. I had a blast appearing on Spencer's podcast a while back and always enjoy hearing his take on what's happening in pro cycling. If you love bike racing, too, I highly recommend you buck up and treat yourself to a subscription to his exclusive content at https://beyondthepeloton.substack.com/. You can find that link in the show notes. Whether you're a pro cycling fan or not, you're going to dig this conversation. Spencer and I go deep on the business of sports, the future of content, the Tour de France, rim brakes, growing up in the midwest, his journey from elite junior runner to entrepreneur, things that motorists have thrown at us while we're out riding our bikes and much more. Thank you to everyone who has left us an iTunes review. If you haven't left us an iTunes review, please go here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/choose-the-hard-way/id1441900901 and leave a one-word review and hit five stars. I do this show because I love bringing you the stories of my guests and I really appreciate you taking a second to support us. Hit subscribe on Spotify, iTunes or wherever you listen and go to https://www.choosethehardway.com/newsletter to sign up for the Choose the Hard Way newsletter. High performance is for everyone. You are what you overcome. Choose the Hard Way.

Jan 4, 2022 • 32min
TCV General Partner Neil Tolaney on Leadership, High-performing Teams and the Power of Staying Hungry
Neil Tolaney is a General Partner at TCV, the storied Silicon Valley investment firm that focuses on private and public high-growth technology companies. Notably, Neil balances his career with being the dad of four young children. With over $24 billion of assets under management, some of TCV's investments have included NetFlix, Spotify, Zillow, LegalZoom, and Strava. In this conversation, we discuss leadership, building high-performing teams and Neil's learnings from his vast experience supporting companies through their journeys to become category leaders. You can follow TCV @TCVTech on Twitter. Please hit subscribe / follow wherever you listen and if you listen on Apple podcasts, please take a moment to give this show a 5-star rating. It helps the show rank higher in search so more people can find the powerful lessons my guests share. Thanks to everyone who has taken a moment to subscribe, follow and hit the stars. If you have feedback or want to recommend a guest, email me at choosethehardway@gmail.com. You are what you overcome. Choose the Hard Way.

Sep 15, 2021 • 56min
From Federal Prison to Building Entrepreneurs & Businesses - A Second U Foundation & Unibody Fitness NYC Founder Hector Guadalupe
Hector Guadalupe is a serial entrepreneur who builds businesses at the intersection of wellness and social justice. Hector is the founder of Unibody Fitness NYC, a fitness and training company that uses wellness to achieve physical transformation, provide second chances and bridge communities. Hector is also the founder of A Second U Foundation, a nonprofit that educates and trains formerly incarcerated people to help them start careers in the fitness industry as certified personal trainers. Hector spent 10 years in federal prison for drug trafficking charges, including 31 months in solitary confinement. While incarcerated, Hector got hooked on working out, lost 120 pounds, became certified as a personal trainer and got passionate about helping other people transform their minds, bodies and lives through fitness and the fitness industry. What he has done since then is nothing short of incredible and has caught the attention of outlets including the New York Times and CNN. In this interview, Hector and I talk about leadership, entrepreneurship, mindset, opportunity, the importance of second chances and much more. A Second U Foundation has trained over 200 formerly incarcerated people with a 0% reoffending rate and Hector has even bigger plans for the future. Also, a heads up that at the time of this recording, Hector had recently welcomed a newborn baby to the family. Congratulations, Hector! Towards the end of the episode you'll hear some contributions in the background from his new arrival. To support the powerful work Hector and his team are doing, go to https://asecondufoundation.org and find them on Instagram @asecondunfoundation. You can find Unibody at unibodyfitnessnyc.com or @unibodyfitness on Instagram. Please hit subscribe and if you're on Apple, take a moment to give this show a 5-star rating in Apple podcasts. It helps the show rank higher in search so more people can find the powerful lessons my guests share. Thanks to everyone who has taken a moment to listen and hit the stars. If you've got feedback or want to recommend a guest, email me at choosethehardway@gmail.com. You are what you overcome. Choose the Hard Way.

Aug 19, 2021 • 1h 17min
Neil D'Souza - GetSetUp CEO/Founder + Ultra-endurance Athlete
Neil D'Souza is an entrepreneur at the intersection of tech, education and human potential. Neil has lived, traveled and worked in 40 countries and is an Ironman Triathlete. Originally from Mumbai, India, at an early age Neil set an unbelievable swimming record that involved spending 79 hours in a pool and landed him on MTV. Neil started his career in tech at Cisco where he was part of a team that spearheaded the 4G/LTE protocol. During his time at Cisco, Neil developed a strong passion for helping underprivileged communities and sought to bridge the education gap for children in remote regions of the world. Later, Neil was the Founder and CEO of Zaya Learning Labs, a disruptive educational startup that brings affordable education solutions to low-income communities around the world. Most recently, he's the founder of GetSetUp, a place for active older adults to learn, connect and share with peers in small intimate classes. We recorded this interview during the early days of GetSetUp when everything, including the company's name, was evolving. You can learn more about GetSetUp at https://www.getsetup.io. We recorded this episode in a WeWork way back in the pre-pandemic times, and you might hear a few footsteps on the creaky boards in the hallway outside our room. One day I'll have a hermetically-sealed, soundproof room for recording, until then, enjoy the amazing lessons that Neil was gracious enough to share. Please hit subscribe and take a moment to give this show a 5-star rating in Apple podcasts. It helps the show rank higher in search so more people can find the powerful lessons my guests share. Thanks to everyone who has taken a moment to listen and hit the stars. If you've got feedback or want to recommend a guest, email me at choosethehardway@gmail.com. You are what you overcome. Choose the Hard Way.

Jul 30, 2021 • 2h 4min
Rocket Scientist, Journalist - Tom Taylor
As a journalist, Tom Taylor has covered the intersection of science, technology and sports at Sports Illustrated and SportTechie. He has a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Astronautics from Stanford University and an M.S. in Journalism from Columbia University. Growing up, he dreamed of being an astronaut before discovering a passion for storytelling that took his life and career in a different direction. Through journalism, Tom has learned and written about topics as varied as disability and data privacy, nutrition and degenerative brain disease, the future of the NFL combine, equality and entrepreneurship, genetics and the Vietnam War. To learn more about Tom, read some of his favorite stories or contact him, go to www.dailytomtaylor.com. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe and give us a five-star rating in the iTunes store. If you'd like to suggest a guest or send feedback about something new or different you'd like to hear on the show, please email me at choosethehardway@gmail.com and you can also catch me on Instagram @hardwaypod. See previous episodes and sign up for our newsletter at www.choosethehardway.com. There aren't shortcuts or hacks on the road to becoming the best. You are what you overcome. Choose the Hard Way.

Jul 13, 2021 • 44min
Best-Selling Author Michele Wucker: You Are What You Risk
Michele Wucker founded Gray Rhino & Company to help leaders, organizations, and communities to identify and strategize responses to "gray rhino" risks: the term she coined to urge people to face up to challenges that are obvious and probable yet which we are all too likely –but not condemned– to neglect despite, and often because of, their size. The gray rhino metaphor has moved markets, shaped financial policies, inspired lyrics of a global K-pop hit song, made headlines around the world in more than 50 countries and over 30 languages, and shaped high-level debates from Davos to NATO to the Munich Security Conference to the Drucker Forum. What does risk mean to you? How do you manage it? Is your relationship to risk something you can transform? On this episode we discuss those questions and more with Michele Wucker, the author of four books including The Gray Rhino: How to Recognize and Act on the Obvious Dangers We Ignore. Her new book is You Are What You Risk: The New Art and Science of Navigating an Uncertain World. Michele is a Guggenheim Fellow and former President of the World Policy Institute. Our conversation covers risk anticipation, management and mitigation strategies for individuals and organizations and much more. You can follow Michele on Twitter @wucker and learn more about her books and business at https://www.wucker.com and thegrayrhino.com.

May 12, 2021 • 59min
Kristen Holmes - Whoop VP of Performance Science
Breath, Sleep, Stress, Recovery and High Performance. Does mouth taping during sleep improve recovery? How can you use breath to down-regulate stress throughout the day? What is HRV and why does it matter? Kristen Holmes is the Vice President of Performance Science at WHOOP. She works with top researchers and hundreds of the best tactical, pro and collegiate athletes and teams in the world to optimize training, recovery and sleep. Kristen was a 3x All American and 2x Big 10 Athlete of the year at the University of Iowa competing in both Field Hockey and Basketball. She was a 7-year member of the U.S. National Field Hockey Team and one of the most successful coaches in Ivy League history, having won 12 league titles in 13 seasons and a National Championship at Princeton University.Kristen is a leading mind in the fields of high performance and recovery. I've learned a great deal from her work and the conversations we've had, so I'm excited to finally have her on the show and to share this interview with you. The best place to follow Kristen is on LinkedIn.

Feb 2, 2021 • 56min
Hybrid War, Terrorism, Violence, Metallica and Human Nature with Dr. Samir Puri
Dr. Samir Puri is a defense policy and counterterrorism expert. He has worked in government and in academia, including as assistant head of research at the British Ministry of Defense's think tank. Samir was raised in 1980s London in a family that had traversed three continents in three generations, from Asia to Africa to Europe. He later completed a PhD at Cambridge University in International Relations, worked at RAND, and then the Foreign Office, where his assignments covered counter terrorism, and a year in east Ukraine monitoring the onset of war in 2014. After government service, Dr. Puri became a lecturer in War Studies at King's College London, and also taught at Cambridge and Johns Hopkins. He has since left academia and in 2020 was appointed Senior Fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in Singapore. His previous books include: Pakistan's War on Terrorism and Fighting and Negotiating with Armed Groups. His latest book is Shadows of Empire: How Imperial History Shapes Our World. In this interview we cover a wide variety of topics including hybrid warfare, theories of conflict, violence, human nature, creativity, sport and Metallica. Go to www.samirpuri.com to learn more and follow him on Twitter @purisamir1. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe and give us a five-star rating in the iTunes store. If you'd like to suggest a guest or send feedback about something new or different you'd like to hear on the show, please email me at choosethehardway@gmail.com and you can also catch me on Instagram @hardwaypod. There aren't shortcuts or hacks on the road to becoming the best. You are what you overcome. Choose the Hard Way.

Jan 25, 2021 • 1h 8min
National Geographic Explorer, Aquanaut & Ocean Engineer Grace C. Young
National Geographic Explorer Grace C. Young is an aquanaut, sailor, diver and ocean engineer. Currently, she's a lead scientist at X, Alphabet's Moonshot Factory where her team is creating radical new technologies to protect the ocean while feeding humanity sustainably. Grace is a former ballerina and studied Mechanical & Ocean Engineering at MIT and did her PhD at Oxford as a Marshal Scholar. In 2014, she lived underwater for 15 days as part of Fabian Cousteau's Mission 31. You can learn more about Grace at www.graceunderthesea.com and follow her on Instagram @gracecalvertyoung and twitter @grace_h20. A special thank you to my friend Brian Ferguson from Arena Labs and the Liminal Collective for first introducing me to Grace. If you enjoy this episode, please subscribe and give us a five-star rating in the iTunes store. If you'd like to suggest a guest or send feedback about something new or different you'd like to hear on the show, please email me at choosethehardway@gmail.com and you can also catch me on Instagram @hardwaypod. You are what you overcome. Choose the Hard Way.

Sep 30, 2020 • 1h 12min
Craig Weller -- Naval Special Warfare Combat Crewman (SWCC) Vet, Co-author of Building the Elite
How do you cultivate stress inoculation, resilience and an internal locus of control? Are they learnable skills? Are they situationally dependent? I explore these questions and more on this episode with Craig Weller. Craig made many mistakes on a bumpy path into the special operations community, but he made it and worked as a SWCC and in high-threat protection and diplomatic security. Since then, Craig spent the past decade studying and teaching peak performance. With Jonathan Pope, he's the co-author of Building the Elite: The Complete Guide to Building Resilient Special Operators. Their students have gone on to become Navy SEALs, Green Berets, SWCCs and members of the SAS and numerous other elite special operations units around the globe. If you dig this episode, please share it with a friend, hit subscribe and rate the show. Go to www.choosethehardway.com to sign up for The Hard Way newsletter and get cool stuff worth knowing + updates on new episodes.


