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Send us Fan MailErik Schön is an executive and strategist who has successfully developed and deployed strategy for over 20 years in small, medium and large organizations. From hacker, software researcher and system engineer to leader, executive and strategizer, Erik is leading global organisations in complex product and service development. He is the author of The Art of Strategy - Steps Towards Business Agility and The Art of Leadership - Purpose and Integrity for Sustainable Success in Turbulent Times, both published by Yokoso Press. Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Erik Schön on LinkedInFollow Erik on TwitterThe Art of Strategy: Steps Toward Business AgilityThe Art of Leadership: Purpose and Integrity for Sustainable SuccessJohn R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…” A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientationX: @NoWayOutcast · @PonchAGLX · @NoWayOutMooseSubstack: The Whirl Of ReOrientation - www.thewhirl.substack.com

Send us Fan MailAaron MacLean is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Previously, he was senior foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Aaron served on active duty as a U.S. Marine for seven years, deploying to Afghanistan as an infantry officer in 2009–2010. Following his time in the operating forces, he was assigned to the faculty of the U.S. Naval Academy, where he was the 2013 recipient of the Apgar Award for Excellence in Teaching. Aaron received a B.A. in philosophy and the history of math and science from St. John’s College, Annapolis, and an M.Phil. (Dist.) in medieval Arabic thought from the University of Oxford. He has been a Boren Scholar and a Marshall Scholar and lives in Virginia, where he was born.Chapters  in this episode:Avoiding Knowledge of War is DangerousDo Systems Incentivize War?To Be or To Do: Boyd's ChallengeIs There a Better Way to Get Better?Boyd: People, Ideas, Things. Always in That Order!Ponch is an Aviator, and Culture is HUGEAccountability is Crucial to True LeadershipBoyd is So Much More Than "OODA Loop"Quantico is a "Boyd School"Reducing Boyd is a DisadvantageBoyd Focused on Conflict, Which is EverywhereStudying Conflict Builds Better LeadersTeam Training and Team Science in HealthcareMeasuring What MattersA Thank You and a Gracious Invitation That Ponch and Mark Accept!Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Aaron MacLeanFollow Aaron MacLean on TwitterSchool of War with Aaron MacLean (Apple Podcasts)School of War with Aaron MacLean (Spotify)John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…” A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientationX: @NoWayOutcast · @PonchAGLX · @NoWayOutMooseSubstack: The Whirl Of ReOrientation - www.thewhirl.substack.com

Dr. Dan Low, Chief Medical Officer of AdaptX and expert in clinical systems improvement, dives into the importance of data for patient safety. He discusses how real-time feedback can revolutionize healthcare practices. The conversation covers the need for effective communication methods, like SBAR, and parallels with aviation safety. Dr. Low shares insights on evolving leadership styles, emphasizing teamwork and empowerment in enhancing workflows. He also explores optimizing surgical efficiency through situational awareness, psychological safety, and continuous learning.

Send us Fan MailGary Klein, PhD is an internationally renowned expert in decision-making, creativity, and leadership. He is a research psychologist, most famous for pioneering the field of Naturalistic Decision Making (NDM), along with his groundbreaking recognition primed decision (RPD) model, which has been used to revolutionize the way the Marines and Army train their officers. Dr. Klein has written several books, articles, and chapters about these topics, such as Sources of Power: How People Make Decisions, The Power of Intuition: How to Use Your Gut Feelings to Make Better Decisions at Work, and his most recent book, Snapshots of the Mind. He is the founder and CEO of Klein Associates, a consulting firm that specializes in decision-making, creative problem solving, and leadership development. Dr. Klein is a much sought-after keynote speaker and workshop facilitator, and has also developed the widely-used Learning-Focused Leadership model. His work has been honored with awards from the American Psychological Association, the Society for Industrial and Organizational Psychology, and the International Society for Performance Improvement.Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Gary Klein, PhD Gary Klein on LinkedInSnapshots of the MindLinking Expertise and Naturalistic Decision MakingRed Team HandbookJohn R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…” A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientationX: @NoWayOutcast · @PonchAGLX · @NoWayOutMooseSubstack: The Whirl Of ReOrientation - www.thewhirl.substack.com

Send us Fan MailChet Richards is a retired Air Force Colonel, an independent consultant, and an author. He graduated from the University of Mississippi, where he also earned a PhD in mathematics. He served as an intelligence officer in the Air Force and as a strategy consultant and Lean theoretician.  Chet is a certified yoga instructor and holds a  Registered Yoga Teacher (RYT-500) certification with the Yoga Alliance. Colonel Richards is a colleague of the late American strategist John R. Boyd and is a gadfly-at-large for Boyd's ideas today. He has researched into the foundations of Boyd's strategy and has written "Certain to Win: The Strategy of John Boyd Applied to Business" and "If We Can Keep It" (on national security policy). He has a blog at slightlyeastofnew.com, which also has latest edits of Boyd's papers and presentations.Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Chet Richards, PhD on LinkedInslightlyeastofnew.comTwitter: @FuentesDeOnoroCertain to WinAntifragile Being You John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…” A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientationX: @NoWayOutcast · @PonchAGLX · @NoWayOutMooseSubstack: The Whirl Of ReOrientation - www.thewhirl.substack.com

Send us Fan MailChris Butler is a renowned product manager, writer, and speaker, with over 20 years of expertise in Agile methodologies, product management, and complex problem-solving. He has been a product leader at Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Cognizant, KAYAK, and Waze and has created techniques like Empathy Mapping for the Machine, Animistic Design Mapping, and Confusion Mapping to create cross-team alignment while building AI products. He is currently a Lead Product Manager at Google's Core Machine Learning team. Chris is an avid speaker and writer and regularly shares his knowledge and insights through talks, articles, and workshops.Chapters found in this episode:Product Managers as Decision Facilitators Why Alignment is Costly Product Strategy, Org Charts and Agile Product Playbooks? A Discourse on Product Management The Power of Narrative Provo-typing? The BS or Term Paper Economy Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Chris Butler on LinkedInChris Butler on Medium Product School John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…” A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientationX: @NoWayOutcast · @PonchAGLX · @NoWayOutMooseSubstack: The Whirl Of ReOrientation - www.thewhirl.substack.com

Send us Fan MailAdrian Bejan, PhD, is an American professor of mechanical engineering at Duke University, esteemed member of the European Academy, and recipient of the Benjamin Franklin Medal, the U.S. version of the Nobel Prize. Born in Romania and a former member of the Romanian National Basketball team, Adrian is known for developing the Constructal Law, which states that any flow system—from the flight of birds to the movement of air and water—will evolve over time so that it can more easily flow. He has published more than 30 books and 650 papers and was ranked in the top 0.01 % of the most cited and impactful scientists in the world ( top 10 in the world in engineering) in the citation impact database created by John Ioannidis of Stanford University. Adrian has also received numerous awards, including the Max Jacob Prize in 1999 and the Ruikov Medal in 2006, and has been awarded 18 honorary doctorates from universities in 11 countries. On this episode of No Way Out, Adrian will be discussing how the Constructal Law applies to basketball, the concept of systems and how they are defined, the evolution of design, and the concept of freedom and how it relates to flow.Chapters  in this episode: Basketball is Not Communism An Observer-Defined SystemThoughts on Entropy Freedom: Removing Obstacles That Impede Flow Arrogance, Fascism, and the Intellectual Elites The Constructal Law: OriginsThe Physics of Perception Why Time Moves Faster as We Age The Physics and Geometry of BeautyBe sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode. Adrian Bejan LinkedinTime and Beauty The Physics of LifeDesign in NatureAdrian Bejan, PhD, Duke University  Adrian Bejan, PhD Wikipedia PageJohn R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…” A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientationX: @NoWayOutcast · @PonchAGLX · @NoWayOutMooseSubstack: The Whirl Of ReOrientation - www.thewhirl.substack.com

Send us Fan MailFred Leland is a retired Lieutenant with the Walpole,  MA Police Department and a former United States Marine. He is an accomplished and accredited trainer with more than 30 years’ experience teaching Law Enforcement and Security. He is a graduate of the FBI National Academy, where he specialized in terrorism related topics, leadership and management. Fred is a student of the late modern day Strategist COL John Boyd and the Ancient Strategist Sun Tzu. He founded Law Enforcement and Security Consulting, Inc (LESC) in 2006 with the focus of bringing these principles to law enforcement and security.Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Fred Leland on LinkedInAdaptive Leadership Handbook - Law Enforcement & Security Being YouAdopting Mission Command: Developing Leaders for a Superior Command CultureChet Richards on LinkedIn Don Vandergriff on LinkedInJohn R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…” A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientationX: @NoWayOutcast · @PonchAGLX · @NoWayOutMooseSubstack: The Whirl Of ReOrientation - www.thewhirl.substack.com

Send us Fan MailJim Rutt is a renowned innovator and creative mischief maker. He is known for his work as the first CTO of Thomson-Reuters, and for having served as the former CEO of Network Solutions. Following his successful sale of Network Solutions during the Dot Com Boom, Jim changed his focus to scientific research and has been affiliated with the Santa Fe Institute since 2002—a world-renowned think tank dedicated to research in the fields of complexity science, evolutionary and adaptive systems, and artificial intelligence. Jim is also the host of the popular The Jim Rutt Show podcast, where he interviews leading scientists, thinkers, and innovators to explore cutting edge ideas in science and technology, with a particular focus on the future of the economy, politics, and society.Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.Santa Fe InstituteThe Jim Rutt ShowJim Rutt on LinkedInAntifragile: Things that Gain from DisorderMisbehavior of Markets: A Fractal View of Financial Turbulence John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…” A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientationX: @NoWayOutcast · @PonchAGLX · @NoWayOutMooseSubstack: The Whirl Of ReOrientation - www.thewhirl.substack.com

Send us Fan MailRetired U.S. Navy Captain  J.J. "Yank" Cummings is a decorated naval aviator, fighter pilot and former captain of the USS Gerald R. Ford, the U.S. Navy’s largest and most advanced aircraft carrier. With a M.S. in Education from Old Dominion University, a M.A. in National Security and Strategic Studies from the Naval War College and a Navy Nuclear Propulsion Program and TOPGUN graduate, J.J. has extensive experience in leading and managing thousands of men and women. He was a key influencer on Paramount Pictures' recent blockbuster and six-time Oscar-nominated movie, Top Gun: Maverick.Selected chapters found in this episode:Leading in Conditions of UncertaintyPrinciples: Setting the ToneBuilding Exceptional TeamsActions, Not Words: Show Them You CareNuclear Navy. Regular Navy. Fighter Aviation.Value (Kill) Chain Thinking: The Why Behind the What1MC Thinking: Communicating the Mission, Reducing UncertaintyYou Are Never Mission-lessGo to the Gemba…UnannouncedBuilding Credibility is HardLBWA Over LBBOOPlan-Brief-Execute-Debrief (PBED): Focus on the “D”The Recall Matters (What Happened)At a Profit, If We Can; At a Loss, If We Must…Systems Drive BehaviorsTop Gun: Maverick Started on “Yank’s” CouchLeadership Lessons from the Making of Top Gun: MaverickTeam Building Outside of WorkBlue Water AdvisorsHow to Connect with “Yank”   Be sure to use the Chapters Feature on Apple and Spotify to quickly browse and navigate to segments of this episode.J.J. "Yank" Cummings on LinkedIn "Navy pilot and Bates graduate helps take film franchise to new heights"Bob Hoover: An Aviation LegendJohn R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words: “There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…” A promotional message for Ember Health.  Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientationX: @NoWayOutcast · @PonchAGLX · @NoWayOutMooseSubstack: The Whirl Of ReOrientation - www.thewhirl.substack.com