The Libertarian Christian Podcast

Libertarian Christian Institute
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Jan 6, 2023 • 40min

Ep 308: Christian Nationalism in the United States, with Paul D. Miller

In this episode, Doug Stuart speaks with Dr. Paul D. Miller about Christian nationalism. Dr. Paul D. Miller is a Professor in the Practice of International Affairs at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. See his profile here. Miller published the book, The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism. Stuart and Miller begin with the general sentiment about "love of country" and conclude with why this means we should oppose Christian nationalism. But, of course, Christian nationalism in America raises important question about racism. Miller gives reasoned, incisive response without the typical polemics that tend to go along such a controversial topic. He helps listeners think about the difference between personal sentiment of racism, and the backdrop of racialized issues and language, without appealing to woke ideology. Was race really a motivator for electing Barak Obama? Why CN is more culturally motivated than politically motivated, and why the crossover from culture to politics is happening none-the-less. Christians against Christian nationalism should be the sentiment shared by Bible-believing liberty-lovers. Ideas about American equivalence to Israel is simply bad doctrine. Desires to resurrect so-called "Christendom" is also based on an arguably unbiblical ideology of establishmentarianism. If you've been looking for an honest and rational conversation about Christian nationalism, then please listen to this episode and considering purchasing Miller's excellent book.   Main Points of Discussion: 00:00 Introduction 02:28 The complexity behind the question, "do you love your country?" 03:36 Guarding against love of country becomes idolatry 05:57 Why this book now? The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism 08:10 Nationalism as a reactionary response to rapid socio-economic change 09:29 Is "our first black President" really about race? 12:15 "Sublimated" racism - racialized vs racism 15:05 Info about the book and main thesis - trilogy of Christian political theory 16:44 The belief that our nation has a specific fixed cultural identity - Anglo-protestant 18:10 Who are the major intellectuals advocating for Christian nationalism? What are their strongest arguments? 19:42 How much of this depends on the idea the Founders wanted to found a Christian nation? 20:50 Why would Christians want to defend nationalism beyond the cultural element? 21:54 The desire to resurrect "Christendom." 22:35 Invokes sexual revolution, but this isn't really about our national identity 23:18 Biblical theology of nations - kinship vs political entity 25:02 Israel is not a template for what a nation should be 26:48 Critique of Stephen Wolfe's book 27:57 Tribalism vs personal identity - what similarities qualify for the tribe? 30:10 Is it fair for the media to caricature all discussion on CN as race-baiting, or a dog whistle for white nationalism? 32:21 Effectively opposing nationalism - be a patriot (against nationalism) 33:51 Is Trump a nationalist? American greatness, not liberty 35:52 "America's Heritage" has a lot of baggage for different people - rhetorical vagueness is the tool of every politicians; weaponizing the past 37:08 Concluding thoughts Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com ★ Support this podcast ★
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Dec 30, 2022 • 32min

Ep 307: Get Rid of Taxes or End World Hunger?

In today's episode, Doug Stuart and Norman Horn are grilled by Matthew Bellis in a game of "Would You Rather ...?" From pancakes vs waffles, to Tom Woods vs Bob Murphy, to Matthew's meager attempt to ferret out Norm's and Doug's heretical tendencies, you'll find out more about these guys than you ever cared to. Enjoy our last episode of 2022 before we get back to the serious stuff in the New Year.   Main Points of Discussion: 00:00    Introduction 02:24    ... be painted red or blue for the rest of your life? 03:02    ... dogs or cats? 04:09    ... pancakes or waffles? 04:43    ... triskets or saltines? 05:14    ... coffee or tea? 06:47    ... Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel? 08:25    ... lose your sight or lose you memories? 10:00    ... give up air conditioning or internet? 11:03    ... have a full time maid or a full time chef? 12:01    ... 11ft tall or 1ft tall? 13:26    ... royalty 1000 years ago or middle class Canadian today? 14:32    ... nothing but Hallmark movies or nothing but Horror movies? 16:42    ... rat or snake hiding in your room? 18:23    ... a year at war or a year in prison? 18:44    ... get rid of taxes or get rid of world hunger? 19:55    .. for your dad ... Tom Woods or Bob Murphy? 21:48    ... Joe Rogan or Dave Smith? 22:20    ... John Stossel or Dave Rubin? 23:58    ... Matt Walsh or Ben Shapiro? 25:12    ... Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh? 26:10    ... Saint Augustine of Hippo or Pelagius? 27:03    ... Saint Nicholas or Arius 27:56    ... SBC or PCUSA? 29:01    ... Methodist or Annabaptist 30:03    ... dinner with Al Mohler or play ping-pong with Benny Hinn   Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com ★ Support this podcast ★
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Dec 23, 2022 • 56min

Ep 306: How Neil Shenvi Gives a Gracious Approach to Critical Theory

In today's episode, Doug Stuart chats with Neil Shenvi, a PhD in Theoretical Chemistry, about his work in Christian apologetics. If you think there's a disconnect between his education and his work, he explains a bit about that in the opening to the episode, as well as the basis for new found expertise in critical theory. Shenvi's concerns about the influence of critical theory rests in the influence (and resultant damage) to orthodox Christian doctrine by ideas developed by critical theorists. He offers a history of the philosophical discipline; many ways to discern the mechanics of it, how to think through and address the moving target certain nomenclature creates, and much more. If you know very little about the topic, or believe it's not as bad some say it is, this episode gives a great bird's eye view making connections you might not have previous thought to consider. Shenvi has a very gracious demeanor and way about speaking on this topic; he's sensitive to certain topics of valid concern (racism, abuse, etc), while recognizing the necessary distinctions and why this particular ideology is such a poison. Shenvi is apolitical in his approach. He comes at this with no agenda about politics or political theory.   Main Points of Discussion: 00:00 Introduction 01:15 About Neil Shenvi 03:12 How Christians begin expressing wokism and the common trajectory 07:03 What is critical theory? 09:04 How culture effects economics - the connection to Marxism 11:15 How does post-modernism relate to critical theory? 14:11 The convergence of critical theory and post-modernism (and the significance of this) 16:31 Robin DeAngelo is critical race theorist?? 18:07 Academics and activists 20:10 Difference between critical theory and critical race theory? 22:18 James Lindsey's connection of critical theory to neo-Marxism? 25:49 Christians going woke are "just trying to deal with the poor and oppressed" 29:55 How lived experience can be wrongly interpreted 32:48 The woke have a "double consciousness" - lived experience is only valid for those liberated from their (white) blindness. 35:32 Wokeness is internally coherent even if it's realistically incoherent 37:48 Are there any ideas that are redeemable about crt? 42:00 there are some isolated ideas that are valid truth claims 42:43 Error in identifying problems, or just a matter of solutions? 46:55 Interest convergence theory? 50:39 CRT's biggest enemy is liberalism 52:00 Shenvi's book reviews and his professional writing 54:51 Concluding thoughts   Resources Mentioned: https://shenviapologetics.com   Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com ★ Support this podcast ★
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Dec 16, 2022 • 16min

Ep 305: How Libertarianism Differs From Other Political Movements

In this episode, Doug gives us a glimpse of our sister podcast, Faith Seeking Freedom. This podcast is part of the Christians for Liberty Network and also the companion podcast to our book, Faith Seeking Freedom: Libertarian Christian Answers to Tough Questions. LCI Founder, Dr. Norman Horn, is the host of the FSF podcast, and he answers some common questions we get about the differences between libertarianism and conservativism, progressivism, and liberalism. Check it out, and tell us what you think.   Main Points of Discussion: 00:00      Introduction 02:36      How libertarianism is different from conservativism 05:49      How libertarianism is different from progressivism 09:52      How libertarianism is different from liberalism   Resources Mentioned: Christians for Liberty Network: christiansforliberty.net Faith Seeking Freedom Podcast: https://libertarianchristians.com/shows/faith-seeking-freedom-podcast/   Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com ★ Support this podcast ★
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Dec 9, 2022 • 55min

Ep 304: Matt's on Fire - Wow! That's great Scotch (and other tales)

A literal fireside chat with Doug Stuart, Norman Horn, Jacob Winograd, and Matthew "I'm on fire!" Bellis. How the guys were influenced by popular personalities. How Jacob was converted to the Mises Caucus from "the left". Is democracy really all that bad? What is nationalism? Listen in as the guys let loose and catch fire... literally! Audio Production by Podsworth Media. ★ Support this podcast ★
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Dec 2, 2022 • 44min

Ep 303: Environmental Social Governance and Business Ethics, with David Rose

Standing in for Doug Stuart is LCI's founder, Dr. Norman Horn. With him today is professor David Rose from the University of Missouri. Dave Rose is a Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri-St. Louis. He has served as the Department Director of Graduate Studies and as the Department Chair. He received his Ph.D. in Economics in 1987 from the University of Virginia. His primary areas of research interest are behavioral economics, political economy, and organization theory. He has published scholarly articles in a wide range of areas. His work has been funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, the HFL Foundation, the Earhart Foundation, and the John R. Templeton Foundation. He is currently in his second term on the U.S. Civil Rights Commission. In 2008 he received the St. Louis Business Journal’s Economic Educator of the year award. You might have heard of ESGs (environmental social governance) from various climate change advocates. David Rose helps us understand what ESGs are and their relationship to stakeholder theory. Rose then contrasts the practice of ESGs (including their historical precedence) with business ethics illustrating for us some inherent problems. Rose explains the social benefits of maximizing profit, why this is a net good for society, and it proves to be a boon philanthropically. Another problem Rose highlights is in business ethics itself. Not only are few university students taking this course, but people who should not be in the position are the ones teaching the subject. (No surprise!) This episode is a great introduction to the topic of environmental social governance and why we should pay attention to these practices.   Main Points of Discussion: 00:00 Introduction 01:45 Environmental Social Governance - what is it? 04:43 History of "corporate responsibility" (stakeholder's theory) compared to ESG - how did we get here? 08:33 The evolution of business ethics and current problems 13:41 Is a business firm a moral agent? The personification problem; The evolutionary theory of firms 19:10 Why ESG proves to be a profound problem on the social effect of business firms 20:45 The effect of ESGs on pension funds 24:25 Why does the firm need to be philanthropic when people can do that on their own? (demonizing profit) 30:19 The "decades of greed" correlate with the most philanthropic time in American history; How can we understand that ESG will harm this? 35:17 There's no virtue in spending someone else's money 37:48 Profit is a signal you've served someone else well 39:27 Practical advice to build awareness for ESG and problems in society 41:48 Concluding thoughts   Resources Mentioned: Common Sense Society https://www.commonsensesociety.org Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com ★ Support this podcast ★
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Nov 25, 2022 • 50min

Ep 302: Libertarian Activism, with Spike Cohen

Former Libertarian Party Vice-Presidential candidate, Spike Cohen joins Doug Stuart for a discussion about politics, faith, and libertarian activism. Cohen, raised as a Messianic Jew, recounts some of his personal journey in and out of faith. Cohen explains how he became a libertarian and some significant moments in America's recent history where the left and right were very close to unifying on common cause. He then describes how he's come to understand the single most important issue that affects all others is the monopolization of the monetary system through the Federal Reserve. Responsibility for nearly ever grievance against societal problems and government can be laid squarely at the feet at the central bankers.  Spike Cohen goes on to address some key issues with the broader freedom movement, including the ongoing divide between pragmatists and idealists. He describes this as "our own duopoly" explaining that both sides need each other and maintaining the divide is handicapping our ultimate goal. He's organized a non-profit called You are the Power, dedicated to grassroots municipal level activism with an effective approach. Cohen highlights one story about Pastor Moses and the city of Gastonia, NC that shutdown his homeless shelter, apparently, to secure tax dollars to finance government homeless programs. Finally, he answers the toughest question about how can possibly have a perfect relationship with his wife, Tasha.   Main Points of Discussion: 00:00    Introduction 01:33    How Spike Cohen became a libertarian 04:16    Personal journey with faith and libertarianism 09:49    The brief moments where the left and right were unified in their prophetic voice against empire 16:29    The Federal Reserve and control of the money system as the single most important topic 22:20    How big is your libertarian tent? 25:58    Libertarian messaging post-pandemic 31:00    Advice to libertarians embarrassing themselves on social media 34:01    “You are the Power” - Grassroots activism 38:46    Pastor Moses in Gastonia, NC - Homeless shelter shutdown 42:14    How do we get people interested in activism? 45:55    How do you have a perfect relationship with your wife? 48:32    Concluding thoughts   Resources Mentioned: Spike Cohen: You Are the Power https://www.spikecohen.com/   Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com ★ Support this podcast ★
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Nov 18, 2022 • 46min

Ep 301: Can a Christian Serve in Government?

In this episode, Doug Stuart is joined by Dick Clark, co-author of Faith Seeking Freedom, to discuss questions related to a Christian's employment or service to the state.Clark is an attorney who is employed by the Nebraska Legislature. He describes himself as an anarcho-capitalist, or radical libertarian, and so not a "beltway libertarian." Clark takes you through his thought process for what sorts of positions, jobs, offices, that someone can do in a particularly Christian way - that is, aligned with our calling as Christians. He also explains why some jobs should be considered off limits for the Christian.   Main Points of Discussion: 00:00    Introduction 01:46    What does Dick Clark do in government? 05:25    What kind of libertarian are you? 07:55    What is the difference between governance and government (the state)? 12:15    Is local government closer to obtaining the consent of the governed? 15:26    What system do we have and is it good? bad? 19:23    How does our calling as Christians ground how we participate in government? 22:24    Is it Christian to repeal welfare programs? 28:20    Would you work for a rival politician? 31:28    Can Christians participate in law enforcement? 42:53    Concluding Thoughts   Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com ★ Support this podcast ★
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Nov 15, 2022 • 1h 36min

Ep 300: Special: The Christians for Liberty Network

We're celebrating the 300th episode of the Libertarian Christian Podcast! This episode was streamed live on Friday, November 11th, 2022. To commemorate this milestone, we announced a big new project: The Christians for Liberty Network (CFLN). This is a network of podcasts that share our mission of educating people about the intersection of faith and politics. Joining CFLN are Mike Maharrey of the Godarchy podcast, Jacob Winograd of the Biblical Anarchy (Daniel 3) podcast, and we've also launched a brand new podcast called the Reformed Libertarians podcast, with Kerry Baldwin and her co-host, Gregory Baus, who is new to LCI. In addition, LCI has re-launched Good News, Bad News, with Matthew Bellis, and the Faith Seeking Freedom podcast. We had a lot of fun with this announcement, as we also invited Doc Dixon back on as our special guest. And all the hosts took some friendly jabs at Doug Stuart, the host of our flagship show. Lots of roasting and good times were had, so enjoy the fun now if you didn't catch the livestream! Audio Production by Podsworth Media. ★ Support this podcast ★
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Nov 4, 2022 • 1h 4min

Ep 299: Reading the Bible as a Libertarian

Join Doug as he guest appears on Danial Winograd's Daniel 3 Biblical Anarchy Podcast to talk about how to read the Bible as a libertarian. Not only does Doug get into what he and LCI are up to, Doug and Jacob carry on an in-depth conversation about how many Christian libertarians misread the Bible, and how we can treat the Bible as authoritative without thinking of it like we do the constitution. Doug explains why Jesus wasn't a libertarian and how we can live in a world where the state keeps asking more from its citizens. Audio Production by Podsworth Media. ★ Support this podcast ★

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