Debunking Economics - the podcast

Steve Keen & Phil Dobbie
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Mar 24, 2026 • 41min

Compound Growth in a Finite World

A lively discussion of how compound interest ties to exponential growth and physical resource limits. They trace historical bans on usury and why attitudes shifted after fossil-fuel driven growth. Banking mechanics and money creation are explained alongside why financial returns can outpace real economy returns. The conversation warns how climate and energy decline could end perpetual growth.
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Mar 17, 2026 • 35min

Paying a war

Phil points out that the US is likely to spend $1.5 trilion on defense/offense spending this year. Acknowledging that sovereign currencies can essentially create money to fund defense, doesn’t there get a point where too much is just too much? A significant portion of this expenditure flows to major defense contractors like Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman, often resulting in "corporate welfare" where increased military budgets are prioritized over social welfare. Steve says that while money creation is theoretically limitless for the US, the real-world constraint lies in physical production capabilities and the availability of essential materials like rare earth elements, which are largely refined in China. This strategic dependence on foreign resources, combined with the inflationary pressures that can arise from massive government spending, suggests that a nation's ability to sustain a war is ultimately determined more by its domestic manufacturing capacity and resource security than by its purely financial reserves. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 11, 2026 • 43min

Beyond the Barrel: Should We Windfall Tax Big Tech and Banks?

A brisk debate on windfall taxes: how the UK levies on North Sea oil work and why they feel temporary. A comparison of national ownership versus privatized extraction and who should capture resource gains. A provocative look at whether tech and banking profits from network effects and central bank policy count as windfalls. Practical design challenges and avoidance risks round out the discussion.
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Mar 3, 2026 • 32min

Is education wasted on the young?

In this episode of the Debunking Economics podcast, Phil and Steve Keen explore the shifting value of higher education, questioning whether the move toward commercialization and high student debt is fundamentally undermining the learning experience. Steve reflects on the decay of academic standards over the last thirty years, arguing that universities have transformed from centers of scholarship into profit-driven credential mills that prioritize enrollment numbers over depth of thought. They discuss the rising financial burden on graduates—averaging £53,000 in the UK—and compare the declining real-term starting salaries of academics and white-collar professionals with the robust earnings of skilled tradespeople like plumbers. The conversation also tackles the looming threat of AI, which Steve fears will amplify the trend of superficial learning by replacing critical thinking and clerical skills, ultimately risking the creation of an "uneducated community" more focused on paying off debt than engaging in meaningful discovery. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Feb 24, 2026 • 32min

The word from the World Forum

Steve Keen, economist known for critiquing neoclassical economics and modelling debt and climate risks, recounts the World Forum in Berlin and its progressive tone. He champions expanding ecocide law to include criminal negligence and personal liability for economists and executives. They debate enforcement hurdles, COP failures, grassroots accountability workshops, carbon removal efforts, and long-term risks from AI and energy.
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Feb 20, 2026 • 38min

Musk’s moneyless mirage

A debate on whether AI and robots could make money obsolete. Comparisons to Marxist planning and ancient status-based societies. Practical hurdles like mineral, energy and production limits. Questions about who would allocate resources and how status and incentives would survive. Alternatives that tweak rather than abolish money are considered.
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Feb 11, 2026 • 44min

Does monetary policy work?

They debate whether higher interest rates actually tame inflation when supply and capacity limits are the real problem. They explore how mortgage-driven house-price growth and bank credit fuel asset bubbles. They question mainstream monetary theory and highlight fiscal, tax and housing-policy levers that could better target inflation. They discuss redirecting bank lending toward productive investment and protecting vulnerable borrowers.
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Feb 4, 2026 • 36min

Learning from Iceland

Steve Keen, economist and author known for work on financial instability, explains how Iceland’s banks ballooned, fueled by carry trades and high rates. He recounts the krona crash, inflation‑indexed debt amplifying pain, and why Iceland refused to socialise foreign losses. They explore recovery through new banks, capital controls and a tourism boom, and contrast Iceland with eurozone bailouts.
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Jan 21, 2026 • 37min

Can the EU take on the US?

Phil and Steve dive into the potential impacts of a US-EU trade war, highlighting Europe's dependence on American defense and technology. They discuss the challenges of building a self-sufficient European security architecture, including the idea of a eurozone-funded army. The hosts explore the implications of tariffs on trade and the rise of European arms production to reduce reliance on the U.S. Additionally, they touch on the economic tools Europe could leverage against US tech dominance and ponder the possibility of a united Europe in response to unpredictability from the U.S.
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Jan 14, 2026 • 40min

Sovereign Money and 100% money, explained

Explore the intriguing concepts of sovereign money and 100% money reform. Discover how central bank accounts could revolutionize daily transactions and challenge commercial banks’ roles. Delve into the historical roots of these ideas, examining past proposals and their implications for the financial system. Unpack the potential benefits, like stability and transparency, while acknowledging the risks of poorly designed reforms that could destabilize existing architectures. It's a thought-provoking look at modern banking and its future.

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