

The Association Podcast
Jake Toohey, Ben Muscolino, Gretchen Steenstra
Jake Toohey (Adage Technologies), Gretchen Steenstra (DelCor) and Ben Muscolino (Breezio and AMS Geek) bring you The Association Podcast. With a combined five decades of experience in the association tech space, they explore challenges facing associations and bring fresh ideas to address them using strategy, design, analytics, and technology.
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Mar 25, 2026 • 40min
Right Content, Right Time, Right Experience: AI and the Modern Association with Erica Salm Rench
On this episode of The Association Podcast, we welcome Erica Salm Rench, Chief Marketing Officer at Sidecar, to explore how associations can move beyond AI buzzwords and into meaningful adoption. Erica shares her career journey from digital marketing to leading AI-driven innovation in the association space, along with the experiences that shaped her approach to technology, community, and leadership.We dive into practical strategies for AI adoption, including building a culture of experimentation, creating internal learning cohorts, and identifying workflows ripe for automation. Erica also discusses the growing role of agents, the balance between personalization and privacy, and how associations can use data more effectively to improve member engagement.Throughout the conversation, Erica highlights the importance of collaboration, curiosity, and continuous learning as associations navigate rapid technological change. She also shares insights from her work at Sidecar, emerging trends in AI, and what leaders should focus on today to prepare their organizations for the future.

Mar 5, 2026 • 45min
Engineering the Future of Associations: Data, AI, and Digital Transformation with Ravi Rooprai
On this episode of The Association Podcast, we welcome Ravi Rooprai, Director of IT and PMO at the Million Dollar Round Table (MDRT). Ravi shares his unique journey from molecular microbiology and pharmaceutical consulting into association technology leadership, bringing a scientific mindset to digital transformation and innovation.The conversation explores how MDRT is modernizing association technology by decoupling legacy systems, building scalable data ecosystems, and experimenting with AI-driven personalization. Ravi explains how his team approaches technology through experimentation, feasibility studies, and agile thinking to improve member experiences and operational efficiency.We also dive into MDRT’s cutting-edge meeting technology, including large-scale multilingual interpretation powered by AI and the infrastructure required to support thousands of attendees simultaneously streaming translated sessions. Ravi discusses how associations can better leverage data, personalization, and experimentation to drive engagement, retention, and measurable member value.From building a culture of innovation to applying e-commerce thinking to membership value, this episode offers practical insights for association leaders navigating digital transformation.00:01:00 Introduction to Ravi Rooprai and MDRT00:01:30 Rapid Fire Questions00:02:40 Ravi’s Career Journey from Science to Association Technology00:04:30 Lessons from Industry Applied to Associations00:05:30 Using ROI and Value Metrics in Association Technology Decisions00:07:00 Measuring Member Lifetime Value00:08:30 The Value of MDRT Membership for Financial Professionals00:10:30 Reworking Legacy AMS Systems Through Decoupled Data Architecture00:12:00 Building a Modern Data Ecosystem Around Legacy Platforms00:13:30 Scaling Membership Systems to Handle Peak Demand00:14:45 Managing 60–70K Membership Applications During Renewal Season00:16:00 Leveraging AI and Technology at Large Global Conferences00:17:00 Simultaneous Translation and Multilingual Meeting Experiences00:18:30 Solving Conference Connectivity and Infrastructure Challenges00:20:00 Improving the Member Experience Through Technology00:21:00 Favorite Tools: AI, Copilot, and Power Apps00:23:30 Empowering Staff to Experiment with Technology00:24:30 Personalization and Data-Driven Engagement00:26:00 Using Engagement Data to Shape Event Programming00:28:00 The Future of Digital Transformation in Associations00:29:00 Applying a Scientific Mindset to Technology Innovation00:31:00 Building a Culture of Experimentation and Safe Failure00:33:00 Feasibility Studies and Agile Technology Testing00:35:00 Applying E-commerce Thinking to Membership Value00:37:00 The Future of AI and Meeting Technology at MDRT00:39:00 Rethinking the Conference Experience00:40:00 Closing Thoughts

Feb 23, 2026 • 48min
Wrestling with Leadership and Innovation with Mike Moyer
On this episode of The Association Podcast, we are thrilled to welcome Mike Moyer, Executive Director of the National Wrestling Coaches Association (NWCA). Mike shares his journey from wrestling coach to leading the NWCA, detailing the organization's mission to develop transformational coaches and advocate for wrestler safety through groundbreaking initiatives such as the creation of a weight management system. We delve into NWCA's innovative strategies, including coaching development programs and the Wrestlers in Business Network (WIBN), which connects wrestlers with career opportunities. Mike also highlights the challenges and triumphs of expanding wrestling programs nationwide and the critical role of technology in achieving their goals.

Feb 16, 2026 • 36min
Growth and Tech Evolution: Embracing Change with Liam O'Malley, CAE, PMP, AAiP
On this episode of The Association Podcast, we welcome industry veteran Liam O'Malley from Path LMS by Momentive. Liam shares his extensive journey in the association market, highlighting key experiences from the American Bar Association to his current role at Momentum. The discussion covers the evolving landscape of online learning, microlearning strategies, and the importance of data-driven decision-making. Liam also introduces the exciting launch of Momentive IQ, a tool designed to centralize data and integrate various association technologies. Tune in to hear insights on managing nano markets and the future of AI in associations.

Feb 3, 2026 • 49min
Designing for Success: Community and Empowerment in Women’s Roles with Dr. Ginna Santy
On this episode of The Association Podcast, we welcome newly minted Executive Director of Women in Revenue, Dr. Ginna Santy. Ginna shares her journey from academia to founding a women-focused co-working business and ultimately leading Women in Revenue. We discuss her passion for elevating women's roles in revenue-generating positions and discuss the importance of designing for inclusivity. Ginna emphasizes the importance of creating value for women in professional spaces and describes Women in Revenue's community-building efforts.

Jan 23, 2026 • 49min
The Art of Asking Why: Brand Experience and Strategic Marketing with Laura Sparks
On this episode of The Association Podcast, we welcome Laura Sparks, Director of Marketing and Communications at the American Society of Appraisers. We dive into Laura’s journey into the association space, exploring her eclectic background and approach to marketing and leadership. We also discuss the importance of member engagement, the integration of AI in association marketing, and the critical role of content quality. Laura highlights the significance of marketing’s seat at the table and the need for collaborative planning to enhance member experiences and drive growth. Additionally, we explore volunteer engagement strategies and the value of feedback in refining marketing efforts. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:37 Rapid Fire Questions 02:23 Laura's Journey into Associations 05:40 Marketing and Sales Synergy 05:56 Content Marketing and AI 08:59 Tagging and Data Management 15:50 Member Experience and Feedback 26:01 The Role of Marketing in Associations 27:58 Marketing vs. Promotion: Understanding the Difference 29:55 The Importance of Marketing's Seat at the Table31:02 Gender Dynamics in Marketing 32:29 Engaging Volunteers Effectively 35:28 Marketing Volunteer Opportunities 38:16 The Challenges of Committee Work 43:49 Planning and Ideation in Marketing 50:24 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Jan 13, 2026 • 1h 13min
100th Episode Special: Reflecting on 5 Years of Association Insights
Welcome to the 100th episode of The Association Podcast! We reflect on the evolution of topics and themes over the past five years, discuss our key takeaways, and acknowledge many of our influential guests. We cover themes like leadership and governance, digital strategy, data and analytics, culture, marketing and brand, community and engagement, education and learning, DEI, association strategy, and the impact of AI. You'll hear our personal anecdotes, audience insights, and future predictions.

Dec 23, 2025 • 55min
Human-First Approaches: AI, Ethics, and Association Boards with Jeff De Cagna, AIMP, FRSA, FASAE
On this episode of The Association Podcast, we welcome repeat guest Jeff De Cagna, AIMP, FRSA, FASAE, and Executive Advisor at Foresight First LLC, for a deep dive into the challenges and considerations involving AI and association boards. We discuss the Future of Association Boards (FAB) Report, which De Cagna curated and edited, touching on the importance of creating a better future for association boards. Jeff stresses the need for ethical reflection in adopting AI, the concept of stewardship over traditional leadership, and fostering humanity within organizational purposes. The conversation also covers practical approaches for boards, board readiness, and actions association leaders can take to effectively navigate the evolving landscape.FAB Report

Dec 11, 2025 • 47min
Embracing AI & Accelerating the Velocity of Change in Associations with Alex Mouw
On this episode of The Association Podcast, we welcome back Alex Mouw, Principal Strategic Advisor at AWS for Nonprofits. Highlighting the importance of strategic alignment and the value of diverse stakeholder involvement, Alex provides insightful guidance on implementing AI solutions sustainably and effectively. The discussion touches on the evolving role of technology in nonprofits, the necessity of a culture that supports experimentation, and how to decide between building or buying technology solutions. We also discuss the Imagine Grant, AWS resources for nonprofit organizations, and what skills are essential for today's tech landscape.

Nov 17, 2025 • 43min
Embracing Change and Innovation in Association Leadership with Jessica Irizarry
On this episode of The Association Podcast, we welcome Jessica Irizarry, Component Relations Director at Shriners International, for an insightful discussion about association management and member engagement. Jessica shares her journey into the association sector, highlighting the importance of adaptability, volunteer management, and the evolving concept of 'components' in associations. The discussion explores the challenges and strategies for engaging multi-generational members, the role of technology in creating impactful work environments, and the importance of recognizing member contributions. Jessica also offers perspectives on giving constructive feedback, leveraging personal interests for better work-life balance, and staying intentional about recognizing and valuing volunteer efforts.


