

Queer Theology
Queer Theology / Brian G. Murphy & Shannon T.L. Kearns
The longest running podcast for and by LGBTQ Christians and other queer people of faith and spiritual seeker. Hosted by Fr. Shannon TL Kearns, a transgender Christian priest and Brian G. Murphy, a bisexual polyamorous Jew. and now in its 10th year, the Queer Theology Podcast shares deep insights and practical tools for building a thriving spiritual life on your own terms. Explore the archives for a queer perspective on hundreds of Bible passages as well as dozens of interviews with respected LGBTQ leaders (and a few cis, straight folks too). Join tens of thousands of listeners from around the world for the Bible, every week, queered.
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Mar 13, 2022 • 50min
Scary Things: The Devil and His Many Names
What was your upbringing regarding your belief in Satan or the Devil? How were you taught (or scared) growing up about the fallen angel, the demon, the serpent, Beelzebub, and the many other names? In this episode, we will discover where our idea of Demon or Satan comes from. Brian is so excited about this subject and has prepared a ton of materials for this one. So tune in and see how your beliefs or ideas about the devil line up with what scripture says.
Satan in the Hebrew Bible: Numbers 22:22
And God’s anger was kindled because he went: and the angel of the Lord stood in the way for an adversary against him. Now he was riding upon his ass, and his two servants were with him.
Satan in the Garden of Eden as the serpent: Ezekiel 28:12-19
‘You were the seal of perfection,
full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
You were in Eden,
the garden of God;
every precious stone adorned you:
carnelian, chrysolite and emerald,
topaz, onyx and jasper,
lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl.[b]
Your settings and mountings[c] were made of gold;
on the day you were created they were prepared.
You were anointed as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
You were blameless in your ways
from the day you were created
till wickedness was found in you.
Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones.
Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;
I made a spectacle of you before kings.
By your many sins and dishonest trade
you have desecrated your sanctuaries.
So I made a fire come out from you,
and it consumed you,
and I reduced you to ashes on the ground
in the sight of all who were watching.
All the nations who knew you
are appalled at you;
you have come to a horrible end
and will be no more.’”
Where the term “fallen archangel” come from: Isaiah 14:12
How you have fallen from the heavens, O Morning Star, son of the dawn!
How you have been cut down to the earth, you who conquered nations!
Pop-cultural resources about The Devil:
Inferno by Dante Aligheri
Paradise Lost by John Milton
The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer
Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis
A few images depicting Satan:
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
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Mar 6, 2022 • 28min
Scary Things: The Great Snatch and the End of the World
It’s week one of another interesting series for you all! This time we’re talking all about end times, the rapture, and other “scary” things from the Bible. We are certain that no matter the religion or faith you were brought up in, you’ve probably heard something or another about the end of the world and in this episode, Brian and Fr. Shay talk about what they were taught, whether they believe in the rapture, and a hilarious (twisted?) rapture-themed practical joke from Shay’s childhood.
If you haven’t heard of The Champion from Carman, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfHfTKdYwvY
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
Photo by Blake Cheek
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Feb 27, 2022 • 38min
The What’s Next: Deconstruction Part 3
Welcome to part three of the Deconstruction and Reconstruction series. In this episode, we talk about reconstruction and the importance of not being stuck in the rubble of deconstruction – moving from one stage to the other. We also talked about the differences of both and why it’s important to move past it. If you haven’t listened to the last two episodes, make sure you do so you can kickstart your journey to deconstructing and reconstructing your faith.
Links mentioned:
Digging The Details: https://www.queertheology.com/DTD
Sanctuary Collective community – https://www.queertheology.com/community/
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
Photo by Khiet Tam
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Feb 20, 2022 • 38min
The How: Deconstruction Part 2
In this week’s episode, we continue what we started last week on Deconstruction and Reconstruction. What do you do when things start to fall apart? How do deconstruction and reconstruction fit into your faith? Tune in to learn how to keep it together as you try to take your faith apart.
Links mentioned:
Quickstart Guide – https://www.queertheology.com/guide/
Sanctuary Collective community – https://www.queertheology.com/community/
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
Photo by kevin turcios
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Feb 13, 2022 • 46min
The What and Why: Deconstruction Part 1
Over the next few weeks, we will be talking about Deconstruction & Reconstruction which we know a lot of you have been wanting to learn more about. This week, we are focusing on defining the term “deconstruction”, discussing why are you hearing more about it and why it isn’t just for evangelicals, plus so much more. Brian and Fr. Shay are also sharing a bit of their deconstruction stories.
Next week we’re going to talk about the actual process of deconstruction, the stages people go through, and how you can continue to process and make something beautiful on the other side.
Reading list:
Anarchy and Christianity by Jacques Ellul
Grace (2 book series) by Philip Gulley & James Mulholland
Color of Violence: The INCITE! Anthology by INCITE! Women of Color Against Violence
Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Freire
The Kingdom of God is Within You by Leo Tolstoy
The Irresistible Revolution by Shane Claiborne
Some James Cone
Some Dietrich Bonhoeffer
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
Photo by Fa Barboza
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Feb 6, 2022 • 35min
Asked And Answered With Brian And Shay: February 2022
Welcome to a brand new episode of The QueerTheology Podcast with your hosts Brian and Fr. Shay. If you are new to this podcast, welcome! If you’ve been a listener, thank you for your continued patronage. For 2022, we are switching up how we do our podcast! We’ll have several series throughout the year that includes a series on the Gospel of Mark, interviews with Jewish leaders, creating rituals for resistance, and so much more! So make sure that you tune in weekly.
In addition to that good stuff, we’re going to have a Q & A episode every quarter. If you have a burning question, please send them over using the email below and you can also send them in as audio clips! Wouldn’t it be so fun and exciting to hear yourself on the podcast?!
In this episode, we answered the following:
“Could you do a podcast or write an article about “coming out” spiritually?”
“Could I get some advice on better allyship as a straight passing bi?”
“I realized I need to accept and embrace my own bisexual identity but it feels presumptuous for me to claim to participate in solidarity with LGBTQ people who face far more precarious circumstances than I’ve had to deal with.”
“…I feel like I’m not worthy of the gifts because I am gay and live the leather lifestyle. Can you please shed some light on this struggle I’m having?”
“When is it appropriate to ask and have this conversation about forgiveness?”
“Can you tell me if this particular Bible/artist/etc. affirms queer folks?”
Links mentioned:
Get the free on-demand training: Fool-Proof Faith here
Check the Queer Sacred Sites video here
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
Image by: Towfiqu barbhuiya
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Jan 30, 2022 • 43min
Justifying Desires with Sarah Ngu
This is the last guest episode of this series! We’ve loved doing this series and appreciate you as our listeners. We are surely going to do another round of guest episodes in the future as these have proven quite inspiring. In the meantime, please stay tuned for a brand-new episode, next week.
For the last guest interview, we have Sarah Ngu who is a freelance writer and is studying religious history at Yale divinity school. They co-founded churchclarity.com, live in NYC, and are originally from Malaysia.
Here’s a previous podcast episode that we did with Sarah: LIVE from Q Christian Fellowship Conference with Sarah Ngu of Church Clarity: https://www.queertheology.com/podcast/qcf-live-sarah-ngu-church-clarity-acts-17/
Where to find and follow Sarah:
Web: https://www.sarahngu.com/
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
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Jan 23, 2022 • 49min
Intersections with Rev. Dr. Pamela Lightsey
Rev. Dr. Pamela Lightsey has a stellar history as a senior administrator and scholar in higher education. She currently serves as Vice President for Academic Affairs at Meadville Lombard Theological School and Associate Professor of Constructive Theology. Before her appointment at Meadville, she was Associate Dean at Boston University School of Theology. She is also an ordained elder in the Northern Illinois Conference of the United Methodist Church.
Dr. Lightsey is a womanist theologian who has lectured at schools within and outside the continental United States. She has served as co-chair of the American Academy of Religion’s Womanist Approaches to Religion and Society Group. She is currently a member of the Workgroup on Constructive Theology. Dr. Lightsey is an honorably discharged veteran of the United States Army. She served as a member of the original executive committee for the Soul Repair Project, which studies the role of moral injury in military veterans.
Pamela’s several publications include the full manuscript, “Our Lives Matter: A Womanist Queer Theology” (Wipf and Stock, 2015), Transforming Service: Reflections of Student Services Professionals in Theological Education. Editors Shonda R. Jones & Pamela R. Lightsey. (Wipf and Stock, 2020), “I’m Black. I’m Queer Lesbian. I’m Methodist. I’m Thriving, Irregardless.” in I’m Black. I’m Christian. I’m Methodist. (Nashville, Abingdon Press, 2020). “Blinking Red: The Escalation of a Militarized Police Force and Its Challenges to Black Communities” (Lexington Books, 2019), in Feminist Praxis Against U.S. Militarism (New York: Lexington Books, 2019).
Pamela is the mother of two adult children, one grandson and one adult goddaughter, and her son. They are her central sources of joy and hope.
Find more of Pamela:
Web: https://onenabi.net/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/OneNabi
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
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Jan 16, 2022 • 52min
Music And The Journey Of Coming Out with Trey Pearson
With his band Everyday Sunday, Trey Pearson has sold hundreds of thousands of albums and amassed millions of streams. He’s had 5 #1 U.S. singles and 20 Top 10 hits. His song “Wake Up! Wake Up!” earned the most-played Christian rock song of the year, and “Best Night of Our Lives” broke onto the coveted Billboard 200 chart. Pearson has toured in all 50 states and 20 countries, including arena tours and major Christian music festivals.
Trey Pearson, the founder and owner of Everyday Sunday, came out of the closet to make national and worldwide news. His announcement started a national conversation with a television appearance on The View. Trey has been covered by The New York Times, Billboard Magazine, CNN, NBC, Entertainment Weekly, and more, as he became the #1 trending topic worldwide on Facebook.
Trey was nominated for a 2017 GLAAD Award for his appearance on The View. Trey has been performing at Pride Festivals across the United States and around the world. He released his debut solo single, “Silver Horizon”, and premiered the music video on Teen Vogue. Billboard Magazine did a feature on Trey for his debut EP and premiered the title track “Love Is Love”, which is now available worldwide.
Find Trey:
Web: http://treypearson.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/treypearson/
FB: https://www.facebook.com/treypearson
Twitter: https://twitter.com/treypearson
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
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Jan 9, 2022 • 41min
Loving Deeply with The Triad Fam
The Triad Fam, aka the Simbalas, is a polyamorous family consisting of 3 adults who are madly in love with each other. They also co-parent a sassy toddler named Lukas. They created their website, thetriadfam.com, to share their experiences, encourage, and inspire all to live their best lives.
At the beginning of their poly journey, there were not many resources for those looking for information on polyamory and especially polyamory and Christianity. Through sharing on their website and Instagram page, speaking opportunities, and education, they strive to be a source of truth, hope, and understanding for everyone.
To learn more, check out their platforms:
Web: https://www.thetriadfam.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/thetriadfam/
If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology.
If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com.
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