

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast
Refine Labs
Hosted by Refine Labs, this podcasts is for marketers, by marketers.
Whether you're new or seasoned , we want to help you refine your strategies, find meaningful takeaways, and hear real, honest stories of marketers who've been able to make waves for the industry. Combining purposeful tactics and strategies across multiple areas is what it means to Stack Growth - let's help build each other up.
Whether you're new or seasoned , we want to help you refine your strategies, find meaningful takeaways, and hear real, honest stories of marketers who've been able to make waves for the industry. Combining purposeful tactics and strategies across multiple areas is what it means to Stack Growth - let's help build each other up.
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Nov 4, 2024 • 56min
2025 Planning and Goal Setting | Refine Labs B2B Marketing Roundtable
Ciara Hopkins, VP of Demand Generation at Refine Labs, and Matthew Sciannella, Senior Director of Demand Generation, bring their B2B marketing expertise to the table. They discuss the evolving landscape of B2B marketing post-pandemic, stressing the importance of adaptability and long-term growth. Key topics include the critical role of brand awareness despite immediate ROI pressures, the need for a strategic content approach tailored to customer journeys, and leveraging historical data for data-driven marketing goals. This insightful conversation is a roadmap for success in a competitive environment.

Oct 28, 2024 • 57min
7 ways to use generative AI in PPC to boost revenue | Kerri Amodio SMX Masterclass
Kerri Amodio, Director of Demand Gen, delivered a Keynote and Q&A session for SMX Masterclass. She focused on how businesses can leverage AI tools like ChatGPT to optimize their marketing campaigns. She emphasized the importance of using AI not merely to save time but to enhance the quality of marketing efforts, improve messaging, and boost revenue.
The discussion details the use of AI for refining ideal customer profiles (ICP), crafting compelling ad copy, and designing personalized marketing strategies. Kerri articulates the nuances of using tools such as ChatGPT, Microsoft Copilot, and Google Gemini in creating targeted, effective paid media campaigns. The conversation covers the importance of understanding customer data, competitor analysis, and the integration of AI in crafting messaging that resonates with specific audience needs. With insights on the ever-evolving landscape of digital marketing, listeners are guided on how to stay ahead of the curve with AI-enhanced strategies that deliver tangible results.
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Oct 23, 2024 • 13min
Snacks 33: Choosing the Right Creative Package
Triana Mills, VP of Creative, joins Steph Crugnola on Stacking Growth Snacks to break down the differences between a Creative Strategy Package and a Creative Execution Package. She details what's included, who would benefit most, and the timeline investment you'd be looking at for each package.
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Oct 21, 2024 • 34min
Building a Podcast: Roles That Influence B2B Growth Strategy | Feat: Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola
Evan Hughes and Steph Crugnola from Refine Labs share their expertise on leveraging podcasting for B2B growth. They discuss the four critical roles in podcasting: architect, host, creative, and distributor, emphasizing how each contributes to success. The duo highlights the importance of clear strategies, audience engagement, and inclusive storytelling. They also touch on adapting to the digital landscape and the significance of content distribution across platforms, making podcasting a powerful tool for connection and brand storytelling in tech.

Oct 16, 2024 • 8min
Snacks 32: Data Democratization - Communicating to Leadership
Ragen Dodson joins Steph Crugnola on Stacking Growth Snacks to cover Data Democratization. In this episode, she guides listeners through specific talk tracks that can help convince leadership to make the change. She highlights the most important benefits of switching to a Data Democracy to make it attractive to your C-Suite and stakeholders.
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Oct 14, 2024 • 45min
Expert Session: Paid YouTube Strategy with Malin Wijenayake
Our September Expert Session, featuring Malin Wijenayake and Chris Walker, focused on YouTube Ad Strategy!
Through the session, they covered:
tools for measuring impact
most efficient targeting options for each ad type
options for developing ad creative
successful examples of current ads
benchmark metric goals and examples ...and more!
If you want to watch the full video, you can access it here on our YouTube page.
And, if you enjoy these sessions, make sure you mark your calendars for what's coming in Q4: B2B Marketing Roundtable w/ Refine Labs —a live, three-part series to help you fine-tune your 2025 strategy and make the most of your paid media. Our CEO, Megan Bowen, VP of Marketing, Evan Hughes, and other Refine Labs experts will be talking through the practical stuff that really matters when it comes to your 2025 plan.
Here’s what we’ll cover:
October Session: Goal Setting for 2025 – How to plan for success without locking yourself into something rigid.
November Session: Paid Media Efficiency – How to stop overspending and get more from your budget.
December Session: Driving Real Change in Your Go-to-Market – How large organizations can make impactful, lasting changes.

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Oct 7, 2024 • 45min
Expert Session: Repurposing Website Content for Ad Creative with Matthew Sciannella
Matthew Sciannella, Senior Director of DemandGen at Refine Labs, shares his expertise on optimizing content for ad strategies. He discusses the shift from paid search to paid social, emphasizing the need to understand user behavior. Matthew highlights leveraging existing website content into engaging formats like carousel ads and short videos. He also explores measuring LinkedIn ad engagement through metrics like dwell time and the importance of storytelling. Collaboration with creative teams is essential for effective content repurposing in compliance-heavy industries.

Oct 2, 2024 • 9min
Snacks 31: Data Democratization - How to Organize Your Data
Ragen Dodson joins Steph Crugnola on Stacking Growth Snacks to cover Data Democratization. In this episode, she talks about the important tools to refresh and rely on when building a Data Democracy. She covers how to make sure your self serve data tools and CRM are user friendly and accessible, aligning measurement and metrics between sales and marketing, and when to bring in an objective, third party agency to help kickstart the process.
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Sep 30, 2024 • 46min
Expert Session: GTM Programs & Marketing ROI with Tom Wentworth
In our July Expert Session, Chris Walker was joined by Tom Wentworth, CMO @ Recorded Future, to talk about GTM programs and Marketing ROI. Their discussion focused on guiding marketers aspiring to senior roles, offering rich insights into account selection, demand creation, and the relationship between marketing and finance.
Tom emphasizes the importance of narrowing down account focus, even for large enterprises, suggesting that a smaller, targeted set of accounts can yield better results. They dig into practical challenges and solutions in demand creation, attributing their lower cost per opportunity to a more strategic allocation of marketing spend. Tom’s advocacy for direct mail as a unique, effective tactic highlights an often-overlooked channel. Moreover, the value of robust financial relationships, notably with the CFO, and the innovative use of a news organization to drive engagement and brand authority are discussed in depth.
Then, they spent time on listener questions, going into the specifics of Direct Mail tactics and messaging.

Sep 25, 2024 • 7min
Snacks 30: Data Democratization
Ragen Dodson joins Steph Crugnola on Stacking Growth Snacks to cover Data Democratization. In this episode, she talks about what Data Democratization is, what it looks like within a company, and the benefits it can bring for your teams.
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