

The Talk Show With John Gruber
Daring Fireball / John Gruber
The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.
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Jun 27, 2017 • 1h 54min
195: ‘I Do Like Throwing a Baby’ With John Moltz
Special guest John Moltz returns to the show. Topics include more follow-up from WWDC 2017, the iPad Pro models and ProMotion, Scott Forstall's interview with John Markoff regarding the 10-year anniversary of the original iPhone, the ongoing shitshow at Uber, quick thoughts on the Nintendo Switch, and more. Also: guess which John enjoys throwing babies into the air.
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Michael Hagain at Lead Fast on the Chinese-made Dixon Ticonderoga pencils.
Chris Pirillo on iPad Pro, Promotion, and iOS.
Museum Historian John Markoff moderates a discussion with former iPhone team members Hugo Fiennes, Nitin Ganatra and Scott Herz, followed by a conversation with Scott Forstall.
Episodes of Guy English and Rene Ritchie’s Debug podcast with Nitin Gunatra and Don “No Fucks Left to Give” Melton:
Episode I
Episode II
Episode III
Episode IV
Episode V
Navistone — the creepy company that sells a JavaScript library for collecting form data as soon as you type it.
Chris Lattner leaves Tesla.
The Outline: “Apple’s War on Leakers”.
Brian Merchant’s The One Device and the excerpt that ran in The Verge.
Evidence in High Sierra betas suggests iMac Pro might come with Secure Enclave ARM chip.
Donors Choose — a great way to contribute money to help teachers buy supplies for their classrooms.
The Osborne Effect.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jun 20, 2017 • 2h 6min
194: ‘Egg Freckles’ With Serenity Caldwell
Serenity Caldwell returns to the show to talk about WWDC 2017 — iOS 11, the new iPad Pro models, MacOS 10.13 “High Sierra”, updated Mac hardware and a tease at the upcoming iMac Pro, where Apple might go with VR and AR, San Jose as the venue for the event itself, and more.
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Links:
WWDC 2017 keynote.
Last week's live episode of The Talk Show, with special guests Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi.
Doonesbury on the Newton back in 1993.
Serenity Caldwell: 'WWDC 2017 in Review: The Community Evolves'.
Lytro’s light field camera: the focus-after-the-fact camera referenced during the show.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jun 8, 2017 • 1h 32min
193: ‘Crack Marketing Team’ — Live From WWDC 2017 With Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi
Recorded in front of a live audience at The California Theatre in San Jose, John Gruber is joined by Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi to discuss the news from WWDC: new Mac hardware, the new iPad Pro, Mac OS 10.13 “High Sierra”, iOS 11, the upcoming HomePod, and more.
A full text transcript is available, by Serenity Caldwell.
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Links:
The WWDC 2017 keynote.
The new iOS App Store.
New iMacs.
The upcoming iMac Pro.
MacOS 10.13 High Sierra.
New iPad Pro models.
iOS 11
HomePod.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Jun 1, 2017 • 1h 59min
192: ‘The Original Sin Is XML’ With Special Guests Manton Reece and Brent Simmons
Manton Reece and whisky-soaked baritone Brent Simmons join the show to talk about JSON Feed, the new spec they co-authored for syndicating things like blog posts and podcasts. We talk about their longstanding mutual interest in [Userland Frontier][f] -- Dave Winer’s groundbreaking scripting environment from the early ’90s -- and how that background and their mutual love for publishing on the open web and the democratization of technology ultimately led to the creation of JSON Feed, as well as their other new projects: Manton’s [Micro.blog][m] publishing platform, and Brent’s new open source Mac app, announced for the first time right here on the show. And of course a brief look ahead to next week’s WWDC 2017.
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Links:
JSON Feed
JSON Feed links on Daring Fireball
Interest in XML vs. JSON over the last 5 years.
Micro.blog — Manton’s new publishing platform.
Evergreen — Brent’s new open source Mac app.
Evergreen’s GitHub repository.
Userland Frontier.
Workflow.
IFTTT.
Feedbin.
Seneca: “The Shortness of Life”.
Yours truly back in 2009: “Twitter Apps Are a UI Playground”.
Manton’s old Tweet Library app.
“App: The Human Story” screening and panel discussion at WWDC 2017
xkcd’s “We need to develop one universal standard that covers everyone’s use cases!” comic.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

May 28, 2017 • 2h 25min
191: ‘He Ends Up Fighting Hervé Villechaize’ With Jim Dalrymple
Special guest Jim Dalrymple returns to the show to speculate about what Apple might announce at the upcoming WWDC 2017: Apple Watch, iPad, iOS, updated MacBooks, Apple TV, and more. Also: a celebration of the great Roger Moore.
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Car reviewer Nick Murray on Alcantara, the synthetic leather Microsoft is using for their new Surface Laptops.
CNBC: Tim Cook spotted testing Apple Watch glucose monitor.
Marc Haynes on meeting Roger Moore as a 7-year-old in 1983.
Fred Brooks’s “The Mythical Man Month”.
Seth Weintraub’s preview of iOS 7 a few days before it was announced at WWDC 2013.
Bozoma Saint John on Instagram.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

May 13, 2017 • 3h 22min
190: ‘Anything Luxury’ With Ben Thompson
Ben Thompson returns to the show. Topics include Microsoft's announcements from Build 2017, search engines, Amazon's new (confusingly-named) Look and Show devices, the need for HAL 9000, Apple's WeChat problem in China, and more.
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Links:
Microsoft's Build 2017 Keynote.
Fish Shell.
Surface Laptop "luxury" treatment.
2007 Apple iPhone commercial.
Bob Borcher's iPhone guided tours.
Phil Schiller dumping Instagram in 2012.
WeChat and the iPhone in China.
When a ReadWriteWeb article became Google’s top result for “Facebook login”.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

May 7, 2017 • 2h 14min
189: ‘Long Press on the French Fries’ With Rene Ritchie
Rene Ritchie returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s Q2 2017 financial results, the iPhone’s decline in China over the past two years, Microsoft’s new Surface Laptop and Windows 10 S, Uber CEO Travis Kalanick getting called to Tim Cook’s office regarding Uber’s surreptitious “fingerprinting” of iPhones, judging Apple Watch’s success, Hulu’s entry into the cord-cutting “live TV” subscription market (and Apple’s conspicuous absence from that same market), and more.
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Links:
Apple Q2 2017 results:
Apple’s press release.
Data (PDF).
Transcript of the analyst call opening remarks.
Transcript of the analyst call Q&A segment.
Is WeChat a problem for Apple in China?
Ben Thompson: “Apple’s China Problem”.
John Gruber: “Apple’s China Problem: WeChat”.
Connie Chan: “When One App Rules Them All: The Case of WeChat and Mobile in China”.
Other events in San Jose during WWDC week:
Layers design conference (save $100 with code “martini” or “🍸”).
AltConf.
CocoaConf.
Apple’s “Beyond WWDC” page.
Scandal of the week at Uber:
“On Uber’s ‘Identifying and Tagging’ of iPhones”.
Unroll.me CEO’s “heartbreak”.
App Store economics:
Matt Gemmell: “No company has done as much damage to the perceived value of software, and the sustainability of being an independent developer, as Apple.”
Rene Ritchie: “Indie Development in the Age of the App Store”.
Hulu’s new $40/month live TV service.
It sucks that you can’t type common characters like tab and π, ¶, and © on an iOS software keyboard.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Apr 21, 2017 • 56min
188: ‘Apple VP Lisa Jackson’
Special guest Lisa Jackson — Apple’s vice president of Environment, Policy, and Social Initiatives — joins the show for an Earth Day discussion of the state of Apple’s environmental efforts: climate change, renewable energy, responsible packaging, and Apple’s new goal to create a “closed-loop supply chain”, wherein the company’s products would be manufactured entirely from recycled materials.
Full transcript of this episode.
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Lisa Jackson’s bio.
Apple’s 2017 Environmental Responsibility Report (PDF).
Recycle your old Apple products.
Apple’s charming series of animated spots on the environment by filmmaker James Blagden:
“Can We Produce Zero Waste?”
“Do Solar Farms Feed Yaks?”
“Why Does Apple Make Its Own Sweat?”
“Can a Building Breathe?”

Apr 19, 2017 • 2h 27min
187: ‘Forget About Frodo and Sam’ With MG Siegler
MG Siegler returns to the show. Topics includes Virgin America's sad fate as a subsidiary of Alaska Airlines, the Touch Bar on the new MacBook Pros, "doing work" on an iPad Pro, Walt Mossberg, the absurd bloat of iOS apps, Clips, Netflix and Amazon's spending on video, and more.
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MG: The Great Laptop Stagnation.
MG: Death of a Virgin.
MG: The Squid.
Columbia Journalism Review's interview with Walt Mossberg.
Mark Gurman's new weekly video show for Bloomberg.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

Apr 13, 2017 • 2h 4min
186: ‘Good News, My House Burned Down’ With Matthew Panzarino
Matthew Panzarino returns to the show for an in-depth discussion of last week's "future of the Mac Pro" round table discussion between a handful of Apple executives and journalists who cover the company. We talk about what went wrong with the 2013 Mac Pro design, speculate on the timeline of when Apple made this decision, why touchscreen Macs are almost certainly a bad idea even though a lot of people think they want one, and more.
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Matthew’s story for TechCrunch on the Mac Pro meeting.
Yours truly’s story for Daring Fireball.
Apple CFO Luca Maestri on using Circle With Disney with his family. (In Italian.)
Longtime Mac developer Dan Counsell on building a hackintosh.
Jonathan Hoefler’s posted-to-Twitter critique of a work-in-progress typeface design from Louie Mantia.
Notability, the app Hoefler & Co. use for annotating typeface designs on iPad Pro with Apple Pencil.
This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.


