Pop Apologists

This week Lauren and Chan are breaking down the biggest moments from Bravo Con 2023: -What Kyle Richards revealed during her RHOBH panel discussion, and what recent actions from Mauricio have the gals shaking their heads.  -Who is coming through as an unlikely Tom Sandoval ally, and why we think Tom keeps showing up, despite being the franchise pariah.  -Why Bethenny's "Reality Takedown" is more of a "Reality Raindrop." -What is the likelihood of Heather Dubrow switching franchises, and which Housewives franchise could use a total reboot.  -How we know that a certain Housewife will not be returning for a second season. -An overview + new details from the Heather McDonald and Jeff Lewis drama Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week we posit an aching question: Is the Golden Bachelor, Gerry Turner, potentially too good to be true? We are then thrilled to welcome our guest Zack Peter from "No Filter By Zack Peter" to the podcast to discuss everything Real Housewives! We chat all about RHONY and why Zack would give the season a B- , Bethenny's Reality Reckoning and what we think Bethenny is really after, and RHOBH's unraveling marriages. We also touch on a Dorit and PK conspiracy theory, and Zack's interview with Erika Jayne, where no topic was off-limits.  Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on the podcast Chan is sent into a tailspin at the running store, Lauren shares her unexpected bonding moment with her dad, and they both share pearls of wisdom from their mom. Chatting about celebrity divorces gets Lauren to wax philosophical about good men vs. weak men and is mentioning it all, specifically which celebrities continually disappoint, and which ones must be protected at all costs. They unpack part one of the RHONY reunion, including who was bringing their fashion A-game, which Housewives got a taste of their own medicine, and which RHONY husband the gals can't help but love. Lauren and Chan discuss the newest episode of The Kardashians, including the questions they have for Kim and the old saying they'd like to impart on Khloe. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan chat about the latest happenings with their favorite new couple, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce, and why they think that these two A-listers could end up going the distance.  Lauren and Chan are here to give their advice on listener questions! Listen to hear their thoughts on: -whether you should tell people you are on Ozempic -if they feel sad they don't live in the same city as their sisters -how to get sisters to become friends -how fast is too fast to be moving on after a breakup -parenting do's & don'ts for your 20 year old daughter -how to handle when you and your fiancé are dreaming of very different weddings -how to deal with a chronically late mother in law on your wedding day To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan give their thoughts on the David Beckham documentary- both the truly stunning as well as the surprisingly garish. Seeing David and Victoria Beckham in their editorially controlled element was a stunning sight that may have the gals watching more soccer, ahem, football in the future. Lauren and Chan then chatted the newest episode of RHONY, which had them reversing their opinions about which cast members they were loving, and why the mean girl antics of a few Housewives really left a bad taste in their mouth. They then dug into the rumors that Mauricio Umansky may have a new woman on his arm, and why the gals are exhausted with the mental ping pong that is taking place with Mauricio and Kyle. Finally, they discussed Matthew McConaughey's appearance on Smartness and why Chan was ready to take a cold shower after listening.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week the gals dive into the premiere of The Golden Bachelor, including all their thoughts on the tan-skinned, 71 year old hunk Gerry and his bevy of ABC beauties. Listen along as Lauren and Chan debrief on who they think is the frontrunner and which moment made them CRINGE. They also get into all things RHONY, including their thoughts on Jenna , Brynn, and Erin. Finally they discuss Taylor attending Travis's game in NY and Kyle's chat with paparazzi at LAX. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan are taking listeners on a deep dive that covers the rise and fall of Ruby Franke, the Utah mommy vlogger behind the former YouTube channel 8 Passengers. Before they get into the deep dive, special guests Courtney Grow and Kyle DeFord join Chan for an emergency Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce debrief, as this couple could be the uniting force that this country so desperately needs.  Lauren and Chan chat about the early days of 8 Passengers, which had 2.8 million subscribers at its peak. Subscribers would watch Ruby give parenting advice and glimpses into her family's life.  There were definite warning signs of abuse going on behind the scenes, and Lauren and Chan discuss specific instances where it was clear that all was not well with this family.  When Ruby and her business partner/counselor Jodi Hildebrant were arrested in August 2023, former 8 Passengers fans were horrified to learn of the abuses that the Franke children had endured and were also left with many questions.  The gals discuss two people who have been victimized by Jodi Hildebrandt, which shows the damage that can be done when someone exercises tyrannical power over another. They also discuss the lingering million dollar question: Where was the father Kevin Franke when his children were enduring such abusive conditions? Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan kick off this week's episode with some criticism toward those who seem to have a little too much luxury in their DNA, the Dubrow children. It seems they have left their nouveau riche nest before gaining some life skills, and the gals have some thoughts about it. Lauren and Chan then dissect Olivia Rodrigo's new album Guts and the songs that are allegedly about Taylor Swift. They chat about Taylor and Olivia's falling out with the release of her first album Sour, and why Taylor's actions may have been especially devastating to Olivia.  The gals chatted about the ever relatable Meghan Markle and her perfectly photographed visit to In-N-Out. Lauren and Chan finished the episode with a follow up discussion of Danny Masterson's sentencing, and their utter disgust with Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis for providing character statements. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

SHOP THE "LUXURY IS IN MY DNA" MERCH DROP HERE! On today's episode, the gals are breaking down the contentious divorce proceedings of Kevin Costner and his soon to be ex-wife Christine, as well as the trouble in paradise for Chanler's favorite boy bander, Joe Jonas and his wife Sophie Turner.  Lauren and Chan dive into Kevin Costner's first divorce, where ex-wife, Cindy Silva, made out like a bandit in their divorce proceedings. This explains why Kevin had an ironclad prenup with second wife Christine, which leaves her with very little in comparison. Despite her most tearful and dramatic efforts at gaining Judge sympathy and claiming their children are so used to living in luxury that it's "in their DNA at this point" she was not granted her request of $249,000 a month in child support.  Christine is now living a nightmare, complete with a luxury 4-bedroom Montecito rental where her children have to share a bathroom with nary an ocean view in sight. The gals don't know how she is going to get by on her $60,000 a month child support payment and are sending their thoughts and prayers. Lauren and Chan also discuss all the evidence that indicates a split between Chan's adolescent love Joe Jonas and wife Sophie Turner is imminent. They go through the timeline of the couple's relationship as well as the warning signs that divorce could be looming.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! This week on Patreon, we celebrate Chan getting a well deserved promotion at work! At Lauren's insistence, Chan marked the occasion by treating herself to some quiet luxury from 5th Avenue. We briefly consider changing the name of the podcast to "Liquor Talk" after becoming Morgan Wallen fans. This idea is quickly scrapped after making two very important important considerations. Chan just finished Jessica Simpson's memoir Open Book, and we have some thoughts about Jessica and John Mayer's on and off relationship in the early 2000's. We discuss what we would really like to see on RHONY instead of the fake nonsense drama that is continually featured on Real Housewives. Finally, we share our opinions about the Kardashian's and Jenners's "evolving aesthetics" and why we feel rage over their years of gaslighting everyone. Tap below to hear it all: CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Head to casitajewelry.com to get any piece of jewelry 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.