

Truth, Lies and Work
HubSpot Podcast Network
Truth, Lies & Work is the UK's #1 Management Podcast.Brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, this award-winning podcast is where behavioural science meets workplace culture. Hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott, the show has reached #2 in the UK Business Podcast Charts and consistently ranks as a Top 10 trending business podcast globally.With a unique blend of evidence-based insight and lived experience, Leanne and Al simplify the science of people and culture to help leaders attract, engage, and retain great talent.Episodes drop twice a week. Tuesdays feature a global people and culture news round-up, a hot take from an emerging or established voice, and the world-famous Workplace Surgery—where Leanne answers real listener questions with practical advice. Thursdays dive deeper with expert guests from across the business and psychology worlds, sharing fresh perspectives and actionable strategies.Whether you're scaling a startup or leading a large team, Truth, Lies & Work delivers the tools, thinking, and inspiration to build thriving, toxic-free workplaces that prioritise well-being and drive sustainable growth.Also, the hosts are married—so expect unfiltered honesty, occasional banter, and a real-life lens on work and life.
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Oct 23, 2025 • 47min
243. What if leadership didn't need a leader? With Psychologist and Author, Danny Wareham
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work — the award-winning podcast where behavioural science meets workplace culture, brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals.
This week, Al and Leanne talk to Danny Wareham, organisational psychologist and author of Constellation Leadership: Reimagined for a Connected Age, about why leadership might not need a single leader at all.
From Navy SEALs to small business teams, Danny’s research explores what happens when you remove the leader from the room — and discover that, in the right conditions, performance can actually increase.
🔥 What We Cover
📘 What is Constellation Leadership?Danny introduces his model — a flexible, culture-driven approach where leadership shifts based on context and capability, not hierarchy or titles.
🧭 Why culture can replace hierarchyLearn why clear purpose, shared trust and behavioural norms can guide teams more effectively than top-down control.
💡 The North Star principleBefore defining roles, policies or perks, Danny says every organisation must answer one question: why do we exist? That North Star then becomes the anchor for every decision.
⚙️ How small organisations have a natural edgeDanny’s research shows that companies under 150 people — below Dunbar’s number — perform best when they keep teams small, autonomous and purpose-led.
💬 The Navy SEAL mindsetWe unpack “mission command” — how elite teams rotate leadership fluidly, with the person best equipped for each situation taking charge in real time.
🧠 The psychology of trust and autonomyFrom imposter syndrome to cultural alignment, Danny explains what it really takes to create teams that lead themselves.
🎧 Want more from Danny Wareham?
– Website: dannywareham.co.uk– LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danny-wareham/– Constellation Leadership: https://dannywareham.co.uk/constellation-leadership/
🧠 Support with Mental Health and Well-being
– Mind UK: https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/– Samaritans (UK): Call 116 123 or email jo@samaritans.org
📬 Connect with Al & Leanne
– LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork– Al Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott– Leanne Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne– Email: hello@truthliesandwork.com– Book a call: https://savvycal.com/meetleanne/chat

Oct 21, 2025 • 49min
242. Amazon sacks HR, bosses blame Gen Z and new-job red flags. PLUS! Does your vibe really attract your tribe?
Dive into the clash between Gen Z and their older counterparts, where workplace boundaries and phone dodging spark heated debates. Explore the alarming potential of AI to reshape job landscapes, with roles like translators and coders on the chopping block. Amazon's significant HR layoffs raise questions about the human cost of tech investment. Finally, ponder the saying 'Your vibe attracts your tribe,' as research reveals the nuances of social attraction and the dangers of mimicking harmful behaviors.

Oct 16, 2025 • 50min
241. What if meetings were the best part of your day? (Yes, really!). With Mamie Kanfer Stewart
Mamie Kanfer Stewart, a meeting transformation expert and host of The Modern Manager podcast, shares invaluable insights on making meetings enjoyable and effective. She explains why most meetings fail and offers frameworks for giving feedback, even upwards. Mamie reveals her 'zero to five' strategy for quick consensus and how to handle dominant voices in discussions. Plus, she emphasizes the importance of emotional management in meetings and when it’s better to send an email instead. Get ready to rethink your approach to meetings!

Oct 14, 2025 • 47min
240. Starbucks’ CEO fail, toxic superstars and Dubai’s Wolf of Wall Street? PLUS! Is Maslow's hierarchy a myth?
Explore the curious phenomenon of breadcrumbing at work, where managers tease promotions but fail to deliver, undermining trust. Delve into Starbucks' new scripted customer service strategy, which may create disconnected interactions. Consider a daunting job in Dubai that demands 100 calls a day for a meager salary. Unpack the controversial relevance of Maslow's hierarchy of needs in modern motivation and discuss the challenges toxic superstars pose to team morale and how to tackle them effectively.

Oct 9, 2025 • 41min
239. Why your founder's culture dies at 50 employees (And what to do about it), with Work Futurist, Josh Levine
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning podcast where behavioral science meets workplace culture.
Hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott, this episode features Josh Levine, work futurist, author of "Great Mondays," and culture consultant who's helped companies like Credit Karma navigate the treacherous waters of hypergrowth.
Episode Summary
Picture this: You've built something special. Your team of 15 feels like family. Everyone knows everyone. The culture just works. But now you're staring down growth - maybe to 50, maybe to 100 employees. And there's this gnawing fear: what if scaling breaks everything we've built?
What We Cover
The 50-Employee Breaking Point
Why founder's culture has an expiration date and the physics behind cultural breakdown
From Implicit to Explicit
How to transform unspoken behaviours into values that actually scale beyond personal influence
The Three-Step Framework
Identify, codify, and communicate the most important decisions that move the needle
Why Most Values Fail
The difference between values as wall decorations versus business tools that drive decisions
Recognition Done Right
How Wells Fargo's outcome-focused rewards destroyed trust and what to do instead
Trust as Infrastructure
Why relational infrastructure matters more than physical infrastructure in distributed work
The WD-40 Case Study
How Gary Ridge reframed failure as learning and invested in humans, not just outputs
Measuring Culture at Scale
Why Employee Net Promoter Score captures what matters as you grow
Resources
Connect with Josh Levine on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akajoshlevine
Follow Josh on Instagram: @greatmondays_culturedesign
Great Mondays website: https://greatmondays.com
Great Mondays Radio: https://radio.greatmondays.com
Great Mondays YouTube: https://youtube.com/@GreatMondays
Get the book "Great Mondays" at greatmondays.com
Mental Health Support
This episode discusses workplace stress, burnout, and the challenges of scaling culture. If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health:
UK:
Samaritans: 116 123 (24/7 helpline) - https://www.samaritans.org/
Mind: 0300 123 3393 or text 86463 - https://www.mind.org.uk/
US:
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 (24/7) - https://988lifeline.org/
NAMI Helpline: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264) - https://www.nami.org/
International:
Befrienders Worldwide: https://www.befrienders.org/ (directory of crisis helplines worldwide)
International Association for Suicide Prevention: https://www.iasp.info/resources/Crisis_Centres/ (global crisis center directory)
Connect with Your Hosts
Connect with Al on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott/
Connect with Leanne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Join the discussion about this episode on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork/
Email: podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com
Follow us on Instagram: @truthlieswork
Chat with us on X: @truthlieswork
YouTube channel: @TruthLiesWork
Check us out on TikTok: @truthlieswork
Want a chat about your workplace culture? hi@TruthLiesandWork.com
Got feedback/questions/guest suggestions? Email podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com

Oct 7, 2025 • 53min
238. Mr Beast on hiring A-players, digital hangovers and risky workplace humour. PLUS! Are tall people really more successful?
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning podcast where behavioral science meets workplace culture.
Hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott, bringing you the latest workplace stories that actually matter.
News Round Up
Digital Hangover - The New Workplace Epidemic
That feeling when you've been on your laptop all day, mindlessly scroll Instagram, and suddenly feel wired but weirdly drained? That's a digital hangover.
Psychologies Magazine article: https://pocketmags.com/us/psychologies-magazine/oct-25/articles/the-science-of-wellbeing-how-to-shake-off-a-digital-hangover?srsltid=AfmBOorVwGPxFvEpTNB5EZru-bMQUVahEMrR_Nk5KLVp4daxRgI7CV3W
Is Workplace Humour Too Risky?
New research from Peter McGraw, Adam Barsky, and Caleb Warren suggests workplace humour might be too risky to attempt.
Research article: https://phys.org/news/2025-09-funny.html
MrBeast's Vibe Check: Smart Hiring or Commitment Avoidance?
The world's biggest YouTuber has introduced 90-day trial periods for all new hires, complete with temporary housing and rental cars. The goal is testing whether someone can adapt to high-speed, high-stakes production work.
Business Insider article: https://www.businessinsider.com/why-mrbeast-vibe-checks-new-hires-2025-10
Truth or Lie?
Are Tall People Really More Successfully
The verdict: TRUE, but with massive caveats. Research shows height correlates with career success - each inch predicts about £600 more in annual earnings. Since 1900, the taller US presidential candidate has won 81% of elections. But height explains only 7% of earning variation, leaving 93% to actual skills, education, and other factors. The effect operates through perceptual bias (we see tall people as more leader-like), modest correlations with intelligence and health, and self-fulfilling prophecies from being treated like a leader from childhood.
Workplace Surgery
Real listener questions this week:
How do you build a reliable team when you're used to doing everything yourself without losing quality control?
What do you do when you have to let someone go even though they're trying their best and improving?
How do you keep great people when you can't compete on pay with bigger companies?
Mental Health Support
This episode discusses workplace stress, burnout, and the impact of digital overload on mental wellbeing. If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health:
UK:
Samaritans: 116 123 (24/7 helpline) - https://www.samaritans.org/
Mind: 0300 123 3393 or text 86463 - https://www.mind.org.uk/
US:
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 (24/7) - https://988lifeline.org/
NAMI Helpline: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264) - https://www.nami.org/
International:
Befrienders Worldwide: https://www.befrienders.org/ (directory of crisis helplines worldwide)
International Association for Suicide Prevention: https://www.iasp.info/resources/Crisis_Centres/ (global crisis center directory)
Connect with Your Hosts
Connect with Al on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott/
Connect with Leanne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Join the discussion about this episode on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork/
Email: podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com
Follow us on Instagram: @truthlieswork
Chat with us on X: @truthlieswork
YouTube channel: @TruthLiesWork
Check us out on TikTok: @truthlieswork
Want a chat about your workplace culture? hi@TruthLiesandWork.com
Got feedback/questions/guest suggestions? Email podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com

Oct 2, 2025 • 53min
237. Is hybrid the worst of all worlds? With Professors Ina Purvanova and Alanah Mitchell, authors of The New Workplace"
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning podcast where behavioral science meets workplace culture.
Hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott, this episode features Professors Ina Purvanova and Alanah Mitchell, authors of "The New Workplace" and experts who've spent years studying remote, hybrid, and in-office work arrangements.
Episode Summary
What if hybrid working isn't the best of both worlds, but actually the worst? Professors Ina Purvanova and Alanah Mitchell have mapped nine different work personas - from "officers" who never want to leave the office, to "avatars" who live entirely online, to "integrators" trying to bridge both worlds. Their research reveals that 65% of workers are now aligned with their company's workplace strategy, but that still leaves 35% struggling with misalignment that affects engagement, commitment, and ultimately performance.
This conversation explores what happens when work personas collide, why hybrid can create more conflict than clarity, and how leaders can move their teams from misaligned to at least half-aligned without losing their best people. You'll hear heartbreaking stories of young workers describing themselves as "soulless husks" when forced to work remotely, and female executives who prefer office work for unexpected reasons.
What We Cover
The Nine Work Personas
How people fall into categories like "officers," "avatars," and "integrators" based on their workplace preferences
Why Hybrid Creates Conflict
How hybrid workplaces can become battlegrounds between opposing preferences, with officers and avatars both wanting companies to go fully their way
The Alignment Problem
Why 65% alignment isn't enough and what happens to the misaligned 35% who stay in jobs that don't suit them
Task-Location Fit
Moving from "dress for your day" to "locate for your day" based on what tasks you need to accomplish
Who Decides the Strategy
Whether leaders should set workplace policies or listen to what teams actually want
Personas Change Over Time
How life stages, from early career to parenthood to late career, can shift your workplace preferences
Recruitment Reality
Why honest job previews about work arrangements are crucial for avoiding misalignment from day one
The Future of Work
Predictions for 2050 and why hybrid might win by default
Resources
The New Workplace book website: https://thenewworkplacebook.com/
Connect with Ina Purvanova on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ina-purvanova/
Connect with Alanah Mitchell on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanah-mitchell/
Mental Health Support
The episode discusses some difficult workplace experiences, including feelings of isolation, loneliness, and depression. If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health:
UK:
Samaritans: 116 123 (24/7 helpline) - https://www.samaritans.org/
Mind: 0300 123 3393 or text 86463 - https://www.mind.org.uk/
US:
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 (24/7) - https://988lifeline.org/
NAMI Helpline: 1-800-950-NAMI (6264) - https://www.nami.org/
International:
Befrienders Worldwide: https://www.befrienders.org/ (directory of crisis helplines worldwide)
International Association for Suicide Prevention: https://www.iasp.info/resources/Crisis_Centres/ (global crisis center directory)
Connect with Your Hosts
Connect with Al on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott/
Connect with Leanne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Join the discussion about this episode on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork/
Email: podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com
Follow us on Instagram: @truthlieswork
Chat with us on X: @truthlieswork
YouTube channel: @TruthLiesWork
Check us out on TikTok: @truthlieswork

Sep 30, 2025 • 53min
236. Office frogging, A.I. workslop and Deloitte's awkward pay gap. PLUS! Are lefties really more creative?" - This Week in Work, 30th September 2025
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning podcast where behavioral science meets workplace culture.
Hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott, bringing you the latest workplace stories that actually matter.
News Round Up
Office Frogging - Gen Z's Job-Hopping Trend
Gen Z workers are hopping from job to job like frogs on lily pads, chasing better pay and growth. But here's the thing - this isn't new. Millennials did this too, they just didn't have a catchy name for it. The real question: are you giving people a reason to stay?
Forbes article on Office Frogging: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2025/09/18/office-frogging-gen-zs-career-trend-disrupts-employer-expectations/
Workslop - AI's Productivity Problem
AI-generated content that looks polished but has no real substance. Research from BetterUp Labs and Stanford found 41% of workers have been on the receiving end, costing almost two hours of rework each time. AI use at work has doubled since 2023, but 95% of organizations see no measurable ROI.
Harvard Business Review article: https://hbr.org/2025/09/ai-generated-workslop-is-destroying-productivity
Deloitte's £4.9m Pay Rise Problem
Deloitte UK's chief executive Richard Houston received a 17% pay rise to £4.9 million while staff got 2.9% and revenues actually fell by 1%. He's now paid 65 times the median Deloitte salary. When staff see the boss's pay racing away from their own, fairness goes, then trust, then loyalty.
The Times article: https://www.thetimes.com/business-money/companies/article/deloitte-uks-chief-executive-receives-17-percent-pay-rise-to-49m-kshc08cqr
Truth or Lie?
Left-Handed People Are More Creative Because They Use the Right Side of Their Brain
The verdict: LIE. While Roger Sperry's Nobel Prize-winning split-brain research showed the hemispheres have distinct strengths, creativity doesn't belong to one hemisphere. Both sides work together constantly in healthy brains. Left-handers may have language spread across both hemispheres and larger corpus callosums, but that doesn't make them automatically more creative.
Workplace Surgery
Real listener questions this week:
Is DISC profiling actually useful for leadership or just another personality tool with slick marketing?
How do senior leaders answer tough questions without actually committing to anything? (Featuring the SCARF model)
What do you call the role when you're ready to step back from day-to-day running of your business?
Connect with Your Hosts
Connect with Al on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott/
Connect with Leanne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Join the discussion about this episode on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork/
Email: podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com
Follow us on Instagram: @truthlieswork
Chat with us on X: @truthlieswork
YouTube channel: @TruthLiesWork
Check us out on TikTok: @truthlieswork
Want a chat about your workplace culture? hi@TruthLiesandWork.com
Got feedback/questions/guest suggestions? Email podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com

Sep 25, 2025 • 47min
235. How to make work work for you, with Isabel Berwick, best-selling author of The Future-Proof Career
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning podcast where behavioral science meets workplace culture.
Hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott, this episode celebrates friend of the show Isabel Berwick and the paperback release of her bestselling book "The Future-Proof Career."
Episode Summary
We're thrilled to welcome back Isabel Berwick, the Financial Times' work and careers editor and host of the "Working It" podcast. With her bestselling book "The Future-Proof Career" now available in paperback, Isabel shares her insights on making working work for you in our post-pandemic world.
This conversation covers everything from the characteristics that make managers truly effective to emerging workplace trends like "greedy jobs" and workplace polarisation. Isabel also tackles some of our toughest listener questions about managing difficult relationships, career development for younger workers, and finding balance in an increasingly demanding work environment.
What We Cover
The Accidental Manager Crisis
How people end up in management roles without proper training or preparation
Social Media's Workplace Impact
The way platforms like TikTok are influencing professional expectations and behaviors
What Makes Managers Actually Effective
Why listening, empathy, and trust matter more than traditional leadership traits
2024's Biggest Workplace Trends
From workplace polarization to "greedy jobs" and the ongoing quiet quitting conversation
Career Advice for Younger Workers
Strategies for getting heard and developing your career in today's workplace
The Power of Reverse Mentoring
How cross-generational learning benefits both mentors and mentees
Managing People You Don't Like
Practical tips for navigating difficult professional relationships
Listener Q&A
Isabel tackles real questions about work-life balance and career progression
Resources
Follow Isabel on X: https://twitter.com/isabelberwick
Connect with Isabel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/isabel-berwick-8b4922167
Listen to Working It podcast: https://www.ft.com/working-it
Subscribe to Isabel's newsletter: https://ep.ft.com/newsletters/subscribe?newsletterIds=62039b7ea31d6577a31f70df
Get "The Future-Proof Career" on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0008607729?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_75RYWXR355NMVKX71SCC
Connect with Your Hosts
Connect with Al on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott/
Connect with Leanne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Join the discussion about this episode on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork/
Email: podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com
Follow us on Instagram: @truthlieswork
Chat with us on X: @truthlieswork
YouTube channel: @TruthLiesWork
Check us out on TikTok: @truthlieswork
Want a chat about your workplace culture? hi@TruthLiesandWork.com
Got feedback/questions/guest suggestions? Email podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com

Sep 23, 2025 • 48min
234. Job hugging, Microsoft meltdowns and career regrets. PLUS! The truth about white noise and your brain - This Week in Work, 23rd September 2025
Welcome back to Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning podcast where behavioral science meets workplace culture.
Hosted by Chartered Occupational Psychologist Leanne Elliott and business owner Al Elliott, bringing you the latest workplace stories that actually matter.
This week we explore "job hugging" - the new workplace trend where people stay in roles they don't love out of fear rather than engagement. Plus troubling reports from inside Microsoft suggest a cultural shift leaving employees feeling powerless, and we launch our new "Truth or Lie?" segment examining whether white noise actually helps concentration.
News Roundup:
Job Hugging - The New Workplace Trend
The flip side of quiet quitting where people stay in jobs they don't love due to market uncertainty. Affects younger workers choosing security over progression.
Nicole Williamson's LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nicolewilliamsorganisationalpsychology_first-we-had-quiet-quitting-now-its-activity-7373611657425559552-NZL-?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAPpxk8B1ivB8GiszIgdppDkaIkcd6hBmOo
Microsoft Culture Crisis
Reports from a 7-year employee describing managers who look "like pinballs, completely powerless" and colleagues "jumping ship." Shows how culture frays slowly before collapse.
Microsoft story: https://www.financialexpress.com/trending/its-scaring-me-microsoft-employee-of-7-years-says-current-work-culture-has-changed-for-the-worse/3982230/
Arthur Brooks on Career Risk
Research shows the biggest workplace risk isn't failing - it's living with regret because you never tried. Fear of regret makes us play it safe and avoid growth opportunities.
Simon Sinek article: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/18/simon-sinek-backwards-career-moves-can-make-you-happier-more-successful.html
Truth or Lie?!
This week's question: does white noise help you concentrate? The answer: true, but only for some people. Research shows it helps those with ADHD or attention difficulties, but actually harms performance in people with strong focus.
Workplace Surgery:
Real listener questions this week:
Dealing with unfulfilling work when your team and manager are great
Managing a brilliant employee who's struggling after promotion to management
Building genuine passion in your team as a young entrepreneur
Get in touch:
Connect with Al on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thisisalelliott/
Connect with Leanne on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meetleanne
Join the discussion about this episode on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/truthlieswork/
Email: podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com
Follow us on Instagram: @truthlieswork
Chat with us on X: @truthlieswork
YouTube channel: @TruthLiesWork
Check us out on TikTok: @truthlieswork
Want a chat about your workplace culture? hi@TruthLiesandWork.com
Got feedback/questions/guest suggestions? Email podcast@TruthLiesandWork.com
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