The Clearing with Katherine May

California-based illustrator, author and Instagram phenomenon Carissa Potter chats to Katherine about the complexities of taking rest during challenging times.In a masterclass of self-reflection, Carissa questions whether the political left have failed to cultivate tolerance and understanding, if we should brand people as evil and how to ‘show up’ when you are the caregiver of a child with complex medical needs. It is no surprise that someone who thinks so deeply about the world has also developed a fully formed fantasy of where she would go to get away from it all; just her and her ‘platonic love at first sight’ creating art together and dipping in the waters at Indian Springs Calistoga. Bliss.Tell us about your own vision of a dream retreat:As mentioned at the end of the episode, if you have your own ideas about where you would go to rest and restore you can tell us about them here We may select your retreat for our bonus content next season!Links from the episode: Carissa’s websiteCarissa’s InstagramCarissa’s SubstackCarissa’s online shop People I’ve Loved Visit The Clearing website www.theclearingpod.com for a full transcript and to discover how to enjoy the episodes ad freeBuy Katherine’s books: Enchantment | Wintering | The Electricity of Every Living Thing: UK / USFollow Katherine on InstagramVisit Katherine’s WebsiteProduction CreditsGuest Booker and Admin Support - Meghan HutchinsSubstack Manager - Rebecca ArmstrongProducer - Alice LloydMusic - The Leaf Library @theleaflibrary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Elissa Altman, author and speaker known for books on family, trauma, and creative permission. She talks about craving restorative retreats, the rituals of rereading and reading as solace, the sensory importance of a proper workspace, cooking and music as grounding practices, and how the sea’s impermanence helps her face change and grief.

As someone whose life was turned upside down by an unexpected divorce and a subsequent move away from the evangelical church, US author and podcaster Jen Hatmaker has learned, and earned, a wisdom that is tangible.In this episode of The Clearing Jen transports Katherine to her grandparents’ 1970s cabin in the snowy Colorado mountains to share the many ways she has come to terms with life’s challenges. Against a blissful setting of floor to ceiling windows, low lighting and a crackling fire, Jen describes letting others ‘drive their car in the Jen Hatmaker hate lane’, the comfort of feeling small, saying yes to everything and how ‘Me Camp’ changed her life.Links from the episode:Jen’s website where you can buy her books including her memoir Awake Jen’s InstagramThe Middle Place by Kelly CorriganVarious books by David SedarisLearn more about Anne Lamott The Correspondent by Virginia EvansVisit The Clearing website www.theclearingpod.com for a full transcript and to discover how to enjoy the episodes ad freeBuy Katherine’s books: Enchantment | Wintering | The Electricity of Every Living Thing: UK / USFollow Katherine on InstagramVisit Katherine’s WebsiteProduction CreditsGuest Booker and Admin Support - Meghan HutchinsSubstack Manager - Rebecca ArmstrongProducer - Alice LloydMusic - The Leaf Library @theleaflibrary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Daisy Buchanan, a witty novelist and productive writer, conjures a glamorous Swiss-chalet retreat filled with silk pajamas, roaring fires and library comforts. She chats about cultivating calm amid neurodivergent anxiety, juggling multiple projects, rituals for rest and the novels that comfort and shape her imagination.

Floor to ceiling windows overlooking a temperate blue ocean off the coast of New Zealand is where this week’s guest, journalist and author Poorna Bell, dreams of rest and retreat.Since the death of her husband in 2015, Poorna has become well-versed in making the most of the everyday. As a result this is a conversation filled with the joy of small things. From relishing the prospect of unstructured days, to finding unquantified pleasure in movement. From an appreciation of the smell of toast to being able to say no to picnics. And why she never wants to receive another present again. Ever.Links from the episode: Poorna’s Substack As I Was SayingPoorna’s websitePoorna’s InstagramBanana Yoshimoto’s novel KitchenLucy M. Boston’s The Children of Green Knowe Lottie Hazell’s novel Piglet Visit The Clearing website www.theclearingpod.com for a full transcript and to discover how to enjoy the episodes ad freeBuy Katherine’s books: Enchantment | Wintering | The Electricity of Every Living Thing: UK / USFollow Katherine on InstagramVisit Katherine’s WebsiteProduction CreditsGuest Booker and Admin Support - Meghan HutchinsSubstack Manager - Rebecca ArmstrongProducer - Alice LloydMusic - The Leaf Library @theleaflibrary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Prolific author of nine books and writer behind the Substack phenomenon The Hyphen, Emma Gannon takes us away for a whole year to her imaginary retreat in Palm Springs, where she plans to indulge almost solely in her number one favourite pastime  - reading.Revealing the extent to which she craves alone time, she tells Katherine about her very real experience of burnout, how she went from someone who lived to work to appreciating downtime and why she relates to The Hermit in Tarot. An inspiring listen that challenges our ideas of ‘the right way’ to live and embraces the concept of letting go. Links in the show: Emma’s Substack The HyphenEmma’s websiteEmma’s Instagram A link to buy her books including A Year of NothingFind Emma’s conversation with Elizabeth Gilbert about memoir here Max Richter’s track On the Nature of Daylight Visit The Clearing website www.theclearingpod.com for a full transcript and to discover how to enjoy the episodes ad freeBuy Katherine’s books: Enchantment | Wintering | The Electricity of Every Living Thing: UK / USFollow Katherine on InstagramVisit Katherine’s WebsiteProduction CreditsGuest Booker and Admin Support - Meghan HutchinsSubstack Manager - Rebecca ArmstrongProducer - Alice LloydMusic - The Leaf Library @theleaflibrary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mike Sowden, writer and creator of the Everything is Amazing newsletter, explores enthusiasm and curiosity in everyday life. He describes living between places, rediscovering reading in Corfu, embracing storms and seasonal rhythms. He talks about creativity born from mild discomfort, failed adventures that make better stories, and practices to keep curiosity alive.

Katherine talks about the importance of rest during difficult times. She explores guilt and the complexity of stepping back instead of carrying on. She celebrates whimsy as a quiet form of resilience. She outlines a relaxed, low-pressure recording rhythm and seasonal breaks. She previews listener-led bonus content coming next season.

Ece Temelkuran, writer and political commentator who warned about rising authoritarianism, reflects on exile, home and rebuilding belonging. She talks about putting her heart on ice, finding comfort in small rituals, treasured objects and food, and how trees and landscapes shape moral life. Short, intimate scenes of rest, ritual and the slow work of repair.

Kaitlin Curtice, an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi nation and author, shares her insights on creating a mental seaside cottage during the pandemic. She explores the beauty of aging as a healing process and the wisdom found in stillness. Kaitlin discusses the significance of retreats, emphasizing the art of listening to both nature and ancestral voices. With reflections on storytelling, communal ties, and the importance of rituals, she highlights how these practices can deeply nourish the spirit and creativity.