

Psychologists Off the Clock
Debbie Sorensen, Jill Stoddard, Yael Schonbrun, Michael Herold & Emily Edlynn
We are five experts in psychology, bringing you science-backed ideas that can help you flourish in your work, relationships, and health.
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Feb 12, 2025 • 1h 8min
394. Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant with Andrea Dunlop and Mike Weber
Some of the worst kinds of abuse happen right in front of us—often hidden behind love, care, and even medicine.In this episode, Jill sits down with returning guest Andrea Dunlop and her co-author and colleague Mike Weber to talk about their book, The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. Munchausen by Proxy (MBP) is a disturbing form of medical child abuse, which we have covered on the podcast before, where a caregiver—usually a mother—makes a child sick or pretends they are, all for attention and sympathy.Andrea, a podcast host and expert on MBP, and Mike, a seasoned law enforcement officer with years of experience in child abuse cases, highlighted what they’ve learned from investigating these heartbreaking stories. They explain why these cases are so hard to catch, the legal system’s challenges in prosecuting perpetrators, and the chilling similarities between MBP and child sexual abuse.And make sure to stick around until the end of the episode, where Jill and Emily wrap up with a debrief about the emotional toll of confronting such tough realities. Listen and Learn:
The shocking truth of Munchausen by Proxy and its hidden dynamics
The similarities between Munchausen by Proxy and child sexual abuse and the deep manipulation at play
How skilled manipulators exploit medical systems and doctors' blind spots to hide abuse.
Why even law enforcement, judges, and doctors might fail to recognize this devastating abuse
Why are false accusations often believed more than the reality of underreported child abuse cases?
Why is it so hard to accept that abuse can happen in 'good' families, and how can we spot it?
How Andrea and Mike keep fighting when the system fails abused children
Resources:
Book: The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Andrea’s Podcast: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/
Andrea’s Website: https://www.andreadunlop.net/
Connect with Andrea on Social Media:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/?hl=en
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@andrea.dunlop?lang=en
Mike’s Website: https://www.mikeweberconsulting.com/
About Andrea DunlopAndrea Dunlop is the author of four novels, including She Regrets Nothing and Women Are the Fiercest Creatures, and the host and creator of Nobody Should Believe Me, an award-winning investigative true crime podcast about Munchausen by proxy. Andrea is the founder of Munchausen Support, the nation’s only non-profit dedicated to supporting survivors and families affected by MBP, and a member of the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP committee, where she serves alongside the country’s foremost experts. She lives in Seattle with her husband and two children.About Mike WeberMike Weber has forty years of law enforcement experience, including fifteen years as a crimes against children investigator. Detective Weber has consulted with numerous police agencies and district attorney’s offices nationally on cases of medical child abuse, and was awarded the 2016 NCMEC Texas Hero for Children Award. He currently lives and works in Fort Worth.Related Episodes
19. Keeping Children Safe from Sexual Abuse with Feather Berkower
84. Courageous Conversations to Prevent Childhood Sexual Abuse with Feather Berkower
276. Assertive Communication Skills with Randy Paterson
308. Identifying and Surviving Gaslighting with Robin Stern
314. Munchausen by Proxy with Andrea Dunlop and Marc Feldman
320. Anger and Forgiveness with Robyn Walser
Bonus Episode: Nobody Should Believe Me with Andrea Dunlop
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Feb 5, 2025 • 52min
393. Supercommunicators with Charles Duhigg
Ever had a conversation that just clicked—where you felt truly heard and understood? What if you could create that kind of connection more often?Best-selling author Charles Duhigg joins Debbie in a conversation about his latest book, Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection. Discover the psychology of great conversations, the power of reciprocal vulnerability, and easy strategies for handling difficult conversations without losing control as we break down what makes some people exceptional communicators and how we can all cultivate those abilities in our daily lives.Whether your goal is to improve your listening skills, build stronger relationships, or simply feel more comfortable in social settings, this episode is full of ideas to help you connect more deeply.Listen and Learn:
How "Supercommunicators" master connection
The recipe for instant connection and how small shifts in communication can turn strangers into friends
The Matching Principle and how syncing conversation types can help strengthen your relationships and connections
Why mastering communication is key to lifelong well-being and how stronger connections can lead you to lasting happiness.
How you can use the "matching principle" with your own partner to create deeper, more connected conversations
Tips for asking deep questions to help you connect more meaningfully and move beyond small talk
Shifting control in conflicts to create teamwork and healthier relationships
How quiet negotiations can transform tougher conversations into mutual understanding
Resources:
Charles’ Website: https://www.charlesduhigg.com/
Charles’ Book: Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection
Connect with Charles on Socials:
https://twitter.com/cduhigg
https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesduhigg/
https://www.instagram.com/charlesduhigg/
https://www.facebook.com/charlesduhigg
Yael’s Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2024/04/19/couples-conversation-communications-understanding-problem-solving/
About Charles Duhigg A graduate of Yale University and Harvard Business School, Charles is a Pulitzer prize-winning journalist and the author of The Power of Habit, which spent over three years on bestseller lists and has been translated into 40 languages, Supercommunicators, also a bestseller published in 2024, and Smarter Faster Better, a third bestseller. Mr. Duhigg writes for The New Yorker magazine and previously wrote for The New York Times.Charles led the New York Times team that won the 2013 Pulitzer prize in explanatory journalism for “The iEconomy,” a series that examined the global economy through the lens of Apple. That series included examinations of such topics as the factories in China where iPhones and iPads are manufactured.Charles has also received The George Polk award, the Gerald Loeb award, the Investigative Reporters and Editors Medal, the Scripps Howard National Journalism award, the Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award, and other honors.While a reporter at the Los Angeles Times, Charles reported from Iraq about American military operations. Today, Charles writes for The New Yorker magazine.Before becoming a full-time journalist in 2003, Charles worked as an analyst for American Property Global Partners, a private equity firm and co-founded SWPA Education Management Group, L.L.C., which developed education programs for medically underserved areas.He was also, for one terrifying day in 1999, a bike messenger in San Francisco.He lives in California with his wife and two children.Related Episodes:
276. Assertive Communication Skills with Randy Paterson
254. Cultivating Compassion for a Lasting Connection with Michaela Thomas
360. The Laws of Connection with David Robson
353. Ask Great Questions with Jeff Wetzler
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Jan 29, 2025 • 53min
392. Outraged with Kurt Gray
Tired of all the fighting over politics and morality? For this episode, we’re tackling moral outrage with Kurt Gray, a psychology professor and author of Outraged: Why We Fight about Morality and Politics and How to Find Common Ground. You’ll learn why we get so caught up in right vs. wrong, how to better understand what’s driving people’s fears and motivations, and how to connect—even when you don’t agree. Plus, you’ll get practical tips to manage your own outrage and have more empathetic conversations.Listen and Learn:
The surprising key to bridging divides in relationships, even amidst deep moral disagreements
How morality evolved to balance selfish instincts with the need for cooperation in groups
How morality’s protective instincts can backfire, dividing us in groups and personal relationships
Do cultural norms and deeper perceptions of harm shape our moral judgments and conflicts?
Why does understanding the "other side" feel like betrayal—and what happens when both sides feel victimized?
How moral typecasting shapes our views, seeing ourselves as victims and others as villains
The complexity of human behavior and how even the most "evil" figures can have a backstory.
How motivated reasoning can shape our political views and blur our judgment in conflict
Embracing vulnerability and asking deeper questions to transform tough conversations
Resources: ● Books: Outraged: Why We Fight About Morality and Politics and How to Find Common GroundDoppelganger by Naomi KleinThe Shock Doctrine by Naomi KleinArticle: Should an affair be disclosed? by Yael● Website: https://www.kurtjgray.com/● Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtjgray/● Connect on X: https://x.com/kurtjgray● Connect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kurtjgray● Connect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kurtjgray/About Kurt GrayKurt Gray is a Professor in Psychology and Neuroscience at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, where he directs the Deepest Beliefs Lab and the Center for the Science of Moral Understanding. And is the author of Outraged: Why We Fight About Morality and Politics and How to Find Common Ground.Related Episodes:
51. The Psychology of Political Division with Yael and Debbie
263. Relationships with Emotionally Immature People with Lindsay Gibson
276. Assertive Communication Skills with Randy Paterson
362. Adult Bullies and High Conflict People with Bill Eddy
371. Uniting Toward a Better Future with Diana McLain Smith
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Jan 22, 2025 • 54min
391. Perfect Is Boring (And It Tastes Like Kale) with Jess Johnston
Join Jess Johnston, a writer focused on friendship and authenticity, as she shares her insights on connecting deeply with others. Jess discusses how her off-grid childhood shaped her views on relationships and why perfectionism blocks meaningful connections. The conversation highlights the profound differences between belonging and merely fitting in, the power of vulnerability, and how embracing imperfections can strengthen bonds. With practical tips and relatable stories, they explore the courage needed to overcome the fear of rejection in adult friendships.

Jan 15, 2025 • 57min
390. Raising Empowered Girls in a Sexist World with Jo-Ann Finkelstein
Raising strong, confident girls in today’s world isn’t always easy, and this episode is here to help. Dr. Jo-Ann Finkelstein chats with Dr. Emily Edlynn about her book, Sexism & Sensibility: Raising Empowered, Resilient Girls in the Modern World, and dives into how we can support girls as they face things like cultural pressures, objectification, and the subtle sexism that still lingers.They share real, practical tips on helping girls think critically, find their voices, and navigate the media they’re exposed to. If you’re a parent, caregiver, or just someone who wants to make a positive difference, this conversation is full of valuable insights you won’t want to miss.Listen and Learn:
Exploring the inspiration behind Sexism and Sensibility
How societal norms shape women's voices and learn how Jo-Ann’s book helps shift the narrative
Progress and pitfalls: The dualities of feminism and girls' empowerment in modern culture
How beauty culture, Eurocentric ideals, and self-objectification steal women’s power and potential
A parental guide to empowering your kids to combat self-objectification
The social dynamics that shape girls' voices and confidence, and why it's crucial for parents to intervene
How can fathers empower their daughters to speak up while protecting them from societal biases?
Resources:
Book: Sexism & Sensibility: Raising Empowered, Resilient Girls in the Modern World: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780593581162
Website: https://www.joannfinkelstein.com/
Substack: https://joannfinkelstein.substack.com/
Connect on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@joannfinkelstein.phd
Connect on X: https://x.com/finkeljo?lang=en
Connect on Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/100086974203277/
Connect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joannfinkelstein.phd/
About Jo-Ann Finkelstein:Jo-Ann Finkelstein, PhD, is a clinical psychologist and the author of Sexism & Sensibility: Raising Empowered, Resilient Girls in the Modern World. She was educated at Harvard University and Northwestern University and now maintains a private clinical practice. An expert blogger for Psychology Today, her work has been highlighted in The New York Times, The Atlantic, The Harvard Business Review, Oprah Daily, and CNN, among others. Her writing has appeared in The Washington Post, Ms., Your Teen, and other publications. Dr. Finkelstein serves on the Advisory Board for Stop Sexual Assault in Schools. She lives in Chicago, Illinois.Related Episodes:
381. Reimagining Boyhood with Ruth Whippman
369. Good News About Adolescence with Ellen Galinsky
337. Puberty Is Awkward with Cara Natterson and Vanessa Kroll Bennett
332. Middle School Superpowers with Phyllis Fagell
317. Growing Up in Public with Devorah Heitner
290. Shared Sisterhood: Collective Action for Racial and Gender Equity at Work with Tina Opie and Beth Livingston
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Jan 8, 2025 • 57min
389. Generational Differences in the Workplace with Michelle Quist Ryder
Ever feel like your workplace is a mix of different worlds, with each generation bringing its own style, perspective, and expectations? For our second episode of the year, Dr. Michelle Quist Ryder, CEO of the American Psychological Foundation, joins us to talk about how Baby Boomers to Gen Z can navigate work together.From remote work shifts to work-life balance expectations, you’ll come away with new knowledge on supporting each other across generations and creating healthier, more productive workplaces. If bridging generational gaps feels tricky, this episode offers practical tips to make it easier.Listen and Learn:
Why generational gaps in values and tech create workplace challenges
Understanding generational anxiety and why adapting workplace culture unlocks success for everyone
Are return-to-office mandates sparking workplace crises, and how can companies adapt post-pandemic?
How self-determination theory can unlock happier workplaces and fix toxic job cultures
Can bridging generational differences in work values create healthier, more adaptable workplaces?
Does turning your passion into a career kill your creativity, and how can you avoid that trap?
Resources: ● Website: https://ampsychfdn.org/about/apf-team/● Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-quist-ryder● Connect on X: https://twitter.com/mquistryderAbout Michelle Quist RyderDr. Michelle Quist Ryder is a social psychologist, research professional, and the CEO of the American Psychological Foundation, an organization that leverages the power of philanthropy to invest in research and advance psychological knowledge. Dr. Quist Ryder has an extensive background in human-centric organizational design, effective DEI practices, and leveraging psychology to solve critical societal issues.Related Episodes:
176. Fair Play with Eve Rodsky
206. Fair Play Part 2 with Eve Rodsky
274. Quarterlife
299. Leadership and the Changing Workplace with Chris Shipley
303. Both/And Thinking with Marianne Lewis
333. How Work Works with Michelle P. King
347. Job Changes & Career Pivots with Paula Brand
352.Twentysomethings with Meg Jay
338. ACT for Burnout
357. Is Your Work Worth It? How to Think About Meaningful Work with Jennifer Tosti-Kharas and Christopher Wong Michaelson
374. Developing and Deepening Connections with Adam Dorsay
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Jan 1, 2025 • 52min
388. Decision-Making in 2025 and Surprises!
Kick off the New Year with us in this special cohosted POTC episode! We've got a MAJOR announcement for 2025, and we're also chatting about the ups and downs of decision-making—all backed by psychology. We're also reflecting on our 2024 highlights, sharing what we're all hoping for in the new year, and talking about how community, flexibility, and staying true to your values play into making some of life’s tough choices. Plus, we’re giving you a sneak peek at what’s coming up on the podcast this year, including some awesome insights on relationship science and our personal goals for the future.
Our exciting POTC New Year announcement
Decision-making and understanding psychological flexibility
How acceptance and commitment therapy can be applied when making decisions
Making values-driven decisions and the importance of community and connection
Cohost 2024 reflections and highlights
About Emily Edlynn Emily (she/her) is a licensed clinical psychologist specializing in pediatric health psychology who works in private practice with children, teens, and adults. She has a BA in English from Smith College, a PhD in clinical psychology from Loyola University Chicago, and completed postgraduate training at Stanford and Children’s Hospital Orange County. Emily spent almost ten years working in children’s hospitals before pivoting to private practice, which allowed her to start a writing career. Emily has written her blog, The Art and Science of Mom, since 2017 and a parenting advice column for Parents.com since 2019.About Debbie Sorenson Debbie (she/her) is a clinical psychologist in private practice in Denver, Colorado with a bachelor’s degree in Psychology and Anthropology from the University of Colorado, Boulder, and a Ph.D. in Psychology from Harvard University. She is author of the upcoming book ACT for Burnout: Recharge, Reconnect, and Transform Burnout with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and co-author of ACT Daily Journal: Get Unstuck and Live Fully with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. She loves living in Colorado, her home state, with her husband, two daughters, and dog.About Jill Stoddard Jill Stoddard is passionate about sharing science-backed ideas from psychology to help people thrive. She is a psychologist, writer, TEDx speaker, award-winning teacher, peer-reviewed ACT trainer, and co-host of the popular Psychologists Off the Clock podcast. Dr. Stoddard is the author of three books: The Big Book of ACT Metaphors: A Practitioner’s Guide to Experiential Exercises and Metaphors in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy; Be Mighty: A Woman’s Guide to Liberation from Anxiety, Worry, and Stress Using Mindfulness and Acceptance; and Imposter No More: Overcome Self-doubt and Imposterism to Cultivate a Successful Career. Her writing has also appeared in Psychology Today, Scary Mommy, Thrive Global, The Good Men Project, and Mindful Return. She regularly appears on podcasts and as an expert source for various media outlets. She lives in Newburyport, MA with her husband, two kids, and disobedient French Bulldog. About Michael Herold Michael (he/him) is a confidence trainer and social skills coach, based in Vienna, Austria. He’s helping his clients overcome their social anxiety through Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and fun exposure exercises. (Though the jury is still out on whether they’re mostly fun for him). He is also a certified therapeutic game master, utilizing the Dungeons&Dragons tabletop roleplaying game to train communication, assertiveness, and teamwork with young adults. Or actually, anyone ready to roll some dice and battle goblins in a supportive group where players want to level up (pun!) their social skills. Michael is the head coach of the L.A. based company The Art of Charm, running their confidence-building program “Unstoppable” as well as workshops on small talk, storytelling, vulnerability, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dec 26, 2024 • 1h 2min
387. How To Change with Katy Milkman Rerelease
As we turn the page to a new year, we’re excited to release this episode as a special gift to help you start 2025 on the right foot. Let’s face it—after the chaos and unpredictability of the past few years, many of us are craving positive change and looking for guidance on how to make it stick. Self-help has surged in popularity, but not all resources are created equal. That’s why we’re bringing back a conversation with Katy Milkman, author of How to Change, to cut through the noise and share strategies backed by science.In this compassionate and inspiring episode, Katy and Jill dive into actionable tools to help you create lasting change, whether it’s breaking old habits or starting fresh. Katy’s expertise has guided organizations like Google, the U.S. Department of Defense, and Walmart, and now she’s sharing her wisdom with you.Tune in to learn why making New Year’s resolutions isn’t just tradition—it can actually be a powerful tool for transformation when done right. Together, let’s set the stage for a brighter, more intentional year ahead.Listen and Learn:
Jill and Yael’s personal experiences with self-help books—what’s worked and what hasn’t
Katy’s advice on which behaviors to focus on first for meaningful change
Practical tips to help you tackle impulsive behaviors today
How Katy’s book inspired real change in Jill’s daily life (her gums are a fan!)
Why one-size-fits-all solutions fail and how to find the strategies that work for you
The science behind readiness for change and why timing matters
A fresh take on New Year’s resolutions and how to make them stick
Resources:
Grab a copy of Katy’s book, How to Change: The Science of Getting From Where You Are to Where You Want to Be
Sign up for Katy’s newsletter here
About Katy Milkman:Katy Milkman is the James G. Dinan Professor at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, host of Charles Schwab’s popular behavioral economics podcast Choiceology, and the former president of the international Society for Judgment and Decision Making. She is the co-founder and co-director of the Behavior Change for Good Initiative, a research center with the mission of advancing the science of lasting behavior change whose work is being chronicled by Freakonomics Radio. Over the course of her career, she has worked with or advised dozens of organizations on how to spur positive change, including Google, the U.S. Department of Defense, the American Red Cross, 24 Hour Fitness, Walmart and Morningstar. An award-winning scholar and teacher, Katy writes frequently about behavioral science for major media outlets such as The Washington Post, The New York Times, USA Today, and Scientific American. Her bestselling book How to Change: The Science of Getting From Where You are to Where You Want to Be is now available. She earned her undergraduate degree from Princeton University (summa cum laude), where she studied Operations Research and American Studies and her PhD from Harvard University where, she studied Computer Science and Business.Related Episodes:
Episode 200. Growing Grit with Angela Duckworth
Episode 43. Willpower With Kelly McGonigal
Episode 132. The Joy Of Movement With Kelly McGonigal
Episode 34. Strengths, Goal Setting, and Grit with Alexis Karris Bachik
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Dec 18, 2024 • 1h 4min
386. Parents Are Stressed: What Do We Do About It? with Emily, Debbie, and our dear friend Yael Schonbrun
Parental stress has been declared a public health crisis by the U.S. Surgeon General—and it’s a conversation we all need to have. In this episode, Emily sits down with Debbie and our dear friend and guest Yael Schonbrun, a clinical psychologist and author of Work, Parent, Thrive, to explore what’s behind the overwhelming stress so many parents are feeling and, more importantly, what we can do about it.We’re talking about all the things that pile up: money worries, the constant rush, and that pressure to “do it all.” Plus, we dive into what parental burnout actually is (and why it’s not your fault) and share simple, science-backed tips to make life a little easier.This isn’t just about managing parental stress—it’s about showing up for yourself and your kids in a healthier, more sustainable way. If you’ve ever felt like you’re drowning in the demands of parenting, this episode is for you. It’s a conversation that matters—and one that can truly make a difference.Listen and Learn:
What is parental stress, why it matters, and how we can lighten the load together?
How can we turn overwhelming parental stress into something manageable?
Parenting burnout is skyrocketing—what’s fueling it, and how can we reclaim balance in modern life?
The pressures of modern parenting, how to find balance and break free from the stress.
How working parents can shift from feeling torn between roles to using tension for enrichment
What are the causes and consequences of parental burnout, and how driving awareness can help
Why your well-being as a parent is crucial for your child's mental health, yet it's often overlooked—and learn how to break this unhelpful cycle
How self-compassion and mindful check-ins can help ease your burnout and stress in daily life
Supporting your child's autonomy to reduce parental burnout and strengthen your connections
Resources:
Yael’s website: https://www.yaelschonbrun.com/
Connect with Yael on socials:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/yael-schonbrun-a26a5229/
http://x.com/DrYaelSchonbrun
http://instagram.com/yaelschonbrun/
Our Substack Q&A, Is Parent Stress Breaking News? Three Clinical Psychologists Discuss the Surgeon General’s New Advisory: https://emilyedlynn.substack.com/p/is-parent-stress-breaking-news
About Yael SchonbrunYael Schonbrun is a clinical psychologist, assistant professor at Brown University, author of Work, Parent, Thrive: 12 Science-Backed Strategies to Ditch Guilt, Manage Overwhelm, and Grow Connection (When Everything Feels Like too Much), past Psychologists Off the Clock co-host, and parent of three. In her research, private practice, and writing, Yael draws on science, philosophy, and clinical practices to share practices proven to foster healthier relationships between partners, parents and children, and between our most important life roles. Yael is a frequent contributor to The Washington Post and her writing on work, parenting, and relationships has appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Greater Good Science Center, Behavioral Scientist, Tricycle, among others.Related Episodes:
306. Screaming on the Inside: The Challenges of American Motherhood with Jessica Grose
319. Autonomy-Supportive Parenting with the AMAZING Emily Edlynn
275. Work, Parent, Thrive with Yael Schonbrun
338. ACT for Burnout with Debbie!
146. Parental Burnout with Lisa Coyne
382. The Anxious Generation? The Conversation We Should Be Having About Kids, Technology, and Mental Health
379. Toxic Striving with Paula Freedman-Diamond
https://offtheclockpsych.com/be-mighty/
121. Be Mighty: An Episode for Stressed Out, Worried Women with Jill Stoddard
267. You are Not a Horrible Parent with Carla Naumburg
211. Subtract with Leidy Klotz
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Dec 11, 2024 • 58min
385. Oliver Burkeman on Embracing Your Limitations
Life can feel so overwhelming sometimes, especially with the nonstop pace of the modern world. But what if you learned to embrace the messiness that comes with life and concentrated more on what really matters to you rather than attempting to control everything?Building on the themes from his previous bestseller, Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals, Michael is joined by returning guest Oliver Burkeman to break down his new book, Meditations for Mortals: Four Weeks to Embrace Your Limitations and Make Time for What Counts. Oliver and Michael dig into key ideas, such as the limits of control, the traps of overachievement and information overload, and how to face life challenges with a proactive, value-driven mindset. You'll love Oliver’s powerful metaphors, like navigating a kayak instead of steering a superyacht, which really brings home the beauty of going with life’s flow while staying grounded and intentional. This is an incredible resource that offers daily insights designed to inspire action, so join us for this empowering conversation and start your journey of embracing imperfection and living a more meaningful life. Listen and Learn:
Oliver’s philosophy behind 'Meditations for Mortals'
The Evolution from 4,000 Weeks to Meditations for Mortals
Embracing the concept of imperfectionism by being finite, taking action, letting go and showing up
Embracing life’s chaos with the kayak vs. superyacht metaphor
The insecure overachiever and learning to break free from productivity guilt
Dealing with the overflow of information and discerning what truly deserves your attention
The paradox of life's endless problems and the freedom found in embracing them
How to apply imperfectionism in your daily life
Balancing empathy with boundaries and why other people's problems aren’t yours to solve
Resources: Oliver’s books:
Meditations for Mortals: Four Weeks to Embrace Your Limitations and Make Time for What Counts
Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals
Oliver’s Website: https://www.oliverburkeman.com/
Connect with Oliver on X: @oliverburkeman
About Oliver BurkemanOliver Burkeman is the author of the Sunday Times bestselling Four Thousand Weeks and The Antidote, and for many years wrote a popular weekly column on psychology for the Guardian, 'This Column Will Change Your Life'. His work has also appeared in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Psychologies, and New Philosopher.Related Episodes242. Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management with Oliver Burkeman
257. The Gift of Being Ordinary with Ron Siegel
321. Imposter No More with Jill Stoddard
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