Psychologists Off the Clock

Delusional beliefs have a long and varied history, with false beliefs ranging from those as minor as imposter syndrome to those as significant as thinking we are dead or decapitated. Victoria Shepherd, author of A History of Delusions, has dedicated her career to exploring the history of fixed false beliefs and the context in which false beliefs can develop. On this episode of POTC, she and Yael discuss the importance of understanding the function of delusions within social context. Join us in this episode for practical advice on caring for loved ones who experience delusions, evidence-based methods of being compassionate towards yourself and others when dealing with delusional beliefs, and much, much more, today!Listen and Learn: Yael and Jill’s take on delusional thinking and fixed false beliefs The importance of understanding the functionality of delusions within a context Practical advice for caring for loved ones who experience delusions Common delusions we all frequently experience Three ways delusions might be helpful for distressed individuals Expert-approved strategies for becoming more aware of your own delusional thinking and managing overwhelm and uncertainty  How the human desire for agency over a situation plays into delusional thinking Some of the experiences of the intriguing characters in Victoria’s book! Perceptions of individuals in power that influence widely held beliefs  How biological causes contribute to delusions Evidence-based methods of being compassionate towards yourself and others when dealing with delusional beliefs Resources: Grab your copy of Victoria’s book, A History of Delusions: The Glass King, a Substitute Husband, and a Walking Corpse! Learn more about Charles The Mad Grab your copy of all our favorite books at bookshop.org/shop/offtheclockpsych. Check out Debbie, Diana, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more!  About Victoria Shepherd:Victoria Shepherd, a born and bred south Londoner, has an M.A. from the University of East Anglia in creative writing. She’s an experienced audio producer for BBC Radio making documentaries and podcasts, and her short film documentary, 2 Princelet Street, was selected by the National Film School Docs program. Many of her documentaries can be found on BBC Sounds, and recent highlights include: ‘A History of Delusions’, presented by Professor Daniel Freeman (co-produced by Eve Streeter), ‘The Glass Delusion’, presented by Adam Phillips; ‘A History of the Future’, and ‘Experiments in Living’ presented by Juliet Gardiner; ‘This Old Heart of Mine’ presented by Giles Fraser, ‘A Natural History of the Banker’ presented by Andrew Ross Sorkin, ‘The Periodic Table’ presented by Chris Addison; ‘Headstrong and Proud’ presented by Michael Crick, ‘The Wizard of Oz’, presented by Salman Rushdie. Learn more about her work here, and buy her book A History of Delusions: The Glass King, a Substitute Husband, and a Walking Corpse now.Related Episodes: Episode 235. The Urge: The Shaping of Addiction & Mental Health with Carl Erik Fisher Episode 251. Wonder with Frank Keil Episode 118. Moral Injury and Shame with Lauren Borges and Jacob Farnsworth Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Women and gender-expansive individuals are often expected to take on the largest portion of emotional labor, home-making, and parenting work. This and a myriad of other unrealistic expectations contribute to #secretparenting and the “motherhood penalty,” leaving women and gender-expansive individuals to suffer and fall behind their white, cis-gender, male counterparts. Ericka Sóuter is a nationally recognized voice in parenting news and parenting advice. On this episode of POTC, she and Jill discuss the challenges mothers often face in their parenting journey and provide practical, realistic advice for facing those challenges. Join us in this episode to learn the research behind caring for yourself first, how to use mom-judgment for good and not evil, statistics behind #secretparenting, and much more today!Listen and Learn: Jill and Yael’s experiences with the challenging elements of parenting How Ericka came upon the title of her book The unmet or unrealistic expectations about parenthood The evidence-based place to start improving your experience with parenthood and overwhelm What the research says about caring for your own well-being before that of your child’s Practical advice for building a community of “the right mom friends” during even the busiest, most hectic of times Expert-approved advice for using mom-judgment for good and not evil The disturbing statistics behind #secretparenting and practical advice for how to engage with the “motherhood penalty” Why the frequency of sex may decrease during and after pregnancy and how to ensure it rebounds down the road Resources: Grab your copy of Ericka’s book, How to Have a Kid and a Life: A Survival Guide! Check out Ericka’s articles!  Learn more about #secretparenting The C-Suite: 70% of top male earners in the US have a spouse who stays home Grab your copy of all our favorite books at bookshop.org/shop/offtheclockpsych. Check out Debbie, Diana, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more!  About: Ericka Sóuter is a nationally recognized voice in parenting news and parenting advice. She has over 20 years of journalism experience and is a frequent contributor on Good Morning America and other national broadcast outlets, where it’s her job to speak to parents across the country about the issues, controversies, and trends most affecting families today. Her new book is How to Have a Kid and a Life: A Survival Guide. Ericka’s work appears on the Bump, What to Expect, CafeMom, and Mom.com, all high-traffic parenting sites that reach millions of moms each month. Her writing has also been featured in People magazine, Us Weekly, Essence, Cosmopolitan, Self and WebMD. She received her bachelor’s degree from Georgetown University and master’s degree from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism.Related Episodes:  Episode 87. Cribsheet with Emily Oster  Episode 247. Find Your Unicorn Space with Eve Rodsky  Episode 185. Good Guys: Allies in the Workplace with Brad Johnson and David Smith  Episode 245. Family Firm with Emily Oster Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Human beings are evolutionarily hard-wired to compete with one another, and this drive to compete encourages us to compare our standing to that of our fellows and despair when we don’t match up. This “compare and despair” mindset can lead to unworkable or harmful cycles of behavior that leave us feeling worse-than-ordinary. Ron Siegel, author of The Extraordinary Gift of being Ordinary, is faculty at Harvard Medical School and teaches internationally about mind-body medicine and the application of mindfulness and compassion practices in psychotherapy and other fields. On this episode of POTC, Ron talks with Yael about why being ordinary is actually an extraordinary gift! Join us to learn about addiction to self-esteem, what genetic analysis says about social comparison and organization, scientifically-backed practices for embracing and savoring your ordinariness, and more, today!Listen and Learn: Yael and Debbie’s thoughts on the connection between being ordinary and belonging The inescapable cycle of comparing and despairing  The evolutionary roots of our desire to be extraordinary  What genetic analysis has to tell us about social comparison and organization  Evidence-based strategies for responding to natural urges and impulses when they’re not workable Practical advice for reorienting towards value-aligned actions after you’ve unhooked from addiction to self-esteem Ron’s favorite practices for embracing and savoring your ordinariness The importance of embracing impermanence (including your own mortality) Resources: Snag your DISCOUNTED copy of Ron’s book, The Extraordinary Gift of being Ordinary. Enter code DFSL2 when item is in shopping cart. Code will be valid through 9/30/22. Then, come chat with Ron at our book club meeting August 11th at 12pm EST (US)! To join the book club, email us at offtheclockpsych@gmail.com with "book club" in the subject line Learn more about the differences between Bonobos and Chimpanzees!.  Read the Cherokee Legend of the Two Wolves  Grab your copy of all our favorite books at bookshop.org/shop/offtheclockpsych. Check out Debbie, Diana, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more!  About Ron Siegel:Dr. Ron Siegel is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at Harvard Medical School, where he’s taught for over 35 years. A long-time student of mindfulness meditation, he serves on the Board of Directors and faculty of the Institute for Meditation and Psychotherapy and the faculties of the Center for Mindfulness and Compassion at the Cambridge Health Alliance and the University of Massachusetts Medical School. He teaches internationally about mind-body medicine and the application of mindfulness and compassion practices in psychotherapy and other fields. He currently maintains a limited private clinical practice in Lincoln, Massachusetts. He has edited and written several books including the critically acclaimed professional text, Mindfulness and Psychotherapy, 2nd Edition, The Mindfulness Solution: Everyday Practices for Everyday Problems, Sitting Together: Essential Skills for Mindfulness-Based Psychotherapy, Wisdom and Compassion in Psychotherapy, Back Sense, and his most recent book, The Extraordinary Gift of Being Ordinary: Finding Happiness Right Where You Are! Related Episodes: Episode 161. The Gift of Failure with Jessica Lahey Episode 199. Belonging From the Inside Out with Meg McKelvie  Episode 226. ACT for Perfectionism with Jennifer Kemp Episode 234. The Power of Us with Dominic Packer Episode 254. Cultivating Compassion for a Lasting Connection with Michaela Thomas Episode 256. Social Justice Parenting with Traci Baxley Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Social justice involves action. In our society which has historically privileged whiteness, many racist and other prejudicial ideas are widely accepted as the standard and are pervasively practiced as the norm. Because of this, allies must engage in anti-racism and take action against racist behaviors. One form of action involves parenting practices. Traci Baxley, author of Social Justice Parenting, is an expert in child development, elementary education, curriculum and instruction, diversity and inclusion, anti-bias curriculum, and social justice education. On this episode of POTC, Debbie and Traci come together to discuss the importance of Social Justice Parenting Practices. Join us in this episode to learn expert-approved strategies for accepting your child for who they are, practical advice for moving from being a “good person” to being an advocate for historically excluded communities, the main qualities of a pro-justice home, and so much more!Listen and Learn: Jill and Debbie’s experiences implementing Social Justice Parenting practices The personal story behind Traci’s work Traci’s experience with “The Talk” that black families must have with their children in the U.S. Belonging as a universal, fundamental motivation  Expert-approved strategies for accepting your children for who they are Traci’s expert definition of Social Justice Parenting  Why parents struggle to implement Social Justice Parenting practices (and how to overcome those struggles!) The importance of Social Justice Parenting practices Practical advice for moving from being a “good person” to being an advocate for historically excluded communities The main qualities of a pro justice home How to start conversations about hard topics with your kids (no matter their age!) Expert-approved strategies for responding to difficult, scary questions from your kids and bringing others into the conversation of social justice Resources Check out Traci’s book, Social Justice Parenting: How to Raise Compassionate, Anti-Racist, Justice-Minded Kids  Take Traci’s online courses for white mothers who want to be allies to the Black community and raise antiracist children (who will be change agents in the world) and for parents who want to implement Social Justice Parenting practices in their family’s daily lives Grab your copy of all our favorite books at bookshop.org/shop/offtheclockpsych. Check out Debbie, Diana, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more!  ​​About Dr. Traci Baxley:Dr. Traci Baxley is a Associate Professor of education at Florida Atlantic University, consultant, parenting coach, and speaker. An educator for over 30 years with degrees in child development, elementary education, and curriculum and instruction. She specializes in diversity and inclusion, anti-bias curriculum, and social justice education. She teaches two online courses for white mothers who want to be allies to the Black community and raise antiracist children (who will be change agents in the world) and for parents who want to implement Social Justice Parenting practices in their family’s daily lives. Make sure to grab your copy of her book, Social Justice Parenting: How to Raise Compassionate, Anti-Racist, Justice-Minded Kids.Related Episodes: Episode 96. Effective Conversations About Diversity with Anatasia Kim and Alicia del Prado Episode 91. Disability as a Form of Diversity with Erin Andrews  Episode 185. Good Guys: Allies in the Workplace with Brad Johnson and David Smith Episode 162. APA Guidelines on Race and Ethnicity in Psychology with Karen Suyemoto   Special Bonus Episode: Mending Racial Trauma with Carynne Williams and Jennifer Shepard Payne Episode 19. Keeping Children Safe from Sexual Abuse with Feather Berkower Episode 83. Courageous Conversations to Prevent Childhood Sexual Abuse with Feather Berkower Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Influence is power, but it’s a power not reserved just for the few. In fact, each of us has the power to impact those around us. Because of this, it’s incredibly important that we meaningfully hold and use that power for good! Dr. Zoe Chance, author of INFLUENCE IS YOUR SUPERPOWER, is a writer, teacher, researcher, and climate philanthropist obsessed with the topic of interpersonal influence. On this episode of POTC, Zoe and Yael discuss how to use your personal values to change the world for the better. Join us in this episode to learn important differences between influence and manipulation, strategies for influencing your child, practical advice for navigating negotiations with difficult people, and more!Listen and Learn: How Yael and Jill use their values to change the world for the better Zoe’s expert definition of influence  Important differences between influence and manipulation Expert-approved tips and tricks for those afraid to exert their influence What parents, CEOs, central bankers, and princess have in common The secrets to influencing your child  Why compromising can be an optimal outcome Practical advice for negotiating with even the most difficult or powerful of people  Evidence-based strategies for listening to someone you disagree with (even when the disagreement makes you want to turn inward) Zoe walks us through her Empathy Challenge Resources: Grab your copy of Zoe’s book, INFLUENCE IS YOUR SUPERPOWER! Read Adam Grant’s Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know  Learn about False Polarization Bias  Learn more about Naomi Eisenber’s research on social rejection and pain  Check out Debbie, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more!   About Zoe Chance:Dr. Zoe Chance is a writer, teacher, researcher, and climate philanthropist obsessed with the topic of interpersonal influence. She earned her doctorate from Harvard and now teaches the most popular course at Yale School of Management, which is the basis for her international bestseller, INFLUENCE IS YOUR SUPERPOWER. Her framework for behavior change is the foundation for Google’s global food policy, and before academia, she managed a $200 million segment of the Barbie brand at Mattel. Today, Zoe teaches smart, kind people to raise money for charity, get elected to political office, fund startups, start movements, save lives, find love, negotiate great deals and job offers, and even get along better with their kids. In other words, she helps people to use their superpower of influence as a force for good.Related Episodes:Episode 51. The Psychology of Political Division with Yael and DebbieEpisode 197. Influence and Adventure with Jon LevyEpisode 196. The Neuroscience of Marketing with Matt Johnson and Prince GhumanEpisode 180. Choosing to Live Your Values with Benji SchoendorffEpisode 234. The Power of Us with Dominic PackerEpisode 252. Getting the Help You Need, with Us Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s incredibly easy (and completely normal) to become caught in the heat of the moment and lash out when arguing with our partners. However, it’s not always the most functional behavior, and it almost never aligns with our values. Michaela Thomas, author of The Lasting Connection, is a clinical psychologist who has centered her career around helping women develop love and compassion for themselves and their partners. On this episode of POTC, Jill and Michaela discuss the key elements to building lasting connections and provide evidence-based strategies for incorporating them into your relationships. Listen in to this episode to discover the top reasons modern couples disconnect, engage in a real-time compassion-flow practice, learn strategies for identifying your relationship values, and much more today!Listen and Learn: Jill and Yael’s thoughts on incorporating ACT, CFT, Behavioral Therapy for couples The three elements that help build lasting connections Expert-approved strategies for identifying when you’re too “hot” or “cold” in your relationship (and practical advice for turning that flame up or down!) Three critical directions your compassion should be flowing in order to build a lasting, loving connection Jill and Michaela engage in a real-time exercise for allowing compassion to flow in from others Evidence-based strategies for moving from high conflict into compassion Dr. Thomas provides the top reasons modern couples disconnect  Tips and tricks for identifying your relationship values as a couple Resources: Grab your copy of Michaela’s book, The Lasting Connection! Listen to Michaela’s podcast, Pause Purpose Play. Take Michaela’s online course, The Compassionate Couple Check out Debbie, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more!   About Michaela Thomas:Michaela Thomas is a Clinical Psychologist, couples therapist and founder of the private practice The Thomas Connection. Michaela specialises in perfectionism, helping high-striving women let go of the pressure of perfection, to find the balance to burn bright, not burn out. She has authored the book The Lasting Connection - develop love and compassion for yourself and your partner. Michaela can be found on her Pause Purpose Play podcast and on Instagram under @the_thomas_connection. Her online course The Compassionate Couple has been described as 'life changing'.Related episodes: Episode 245. Family Firm with Emily Oster Episode 206. Fair Play Part 2 with Eve Rodsky Episode 168. Everyday Conversations: How Conversational Style Impacts Relationships with Deborah Tannen Episode 247. Find Your Unicorn Space with Eve Rodsky Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The pressure to be the perfect parent and create the perfect environment for your kids to grow feels pervasive for many modern parents. Because of this, many caregivers have had the thought that they are the world’s worst parent. However, that title belongs to Lenore Skenazy, president of Let Grow and founder of the Free-Range Kids movement (and book), who was once nationally dubbed "America's Worst Mom". On this episode of POTC, Yael and Lenore discuss the data behind how trusting your kids more and giving them more independence allows them to better grow into capable, confident, and happy adults. Join us in this advice-packed episode to learn about what’s actually risky for your kids, strategies for trusting your parenting skills more, methods for unhooking from perfect-parenting-pressure, and much more, today!Listen and Learn: Yael and Jill’s experiences with stigma and conforming to social norms when it comes to raising their kids Important social and personal changes for Lenore since the release of the first edition of Free-Range Kids Practical advice for the parents worried about their children’s safety in social contexts Lenore defines the “worst first thing” and provides expert advice on how to respond to that tendency Evidence-based and time-proven strategies for shifting your perspective around what’s actually risky for your kids How to begin trusting your parenting instincts and thriving in your role as a parent Expert-approved tips and tricks for incorporating more approach and less avoidance behavior in your parenting repertoire  The data that supports the free-range kids movement and having faith in your own parenting skill sets Lenore’s expert advice on unhooking from pressure around being the perfect parent and relating to your kids as people Resources: Read Lenore’s book, Free-Range Kids and check out the Free-Range Kids movement as well! Get involved in Lenore’s non-profit, Let Grow, and check out the FREE resources at the Let Grow Play Club!  Check out Jonathan Haidt’s work, The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure and The Fragile Generation Check out Debbie, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more!   For a hilarious view of free range partnering, check out this SNL clip About Lenore Skenazy:Lenore Skenazy, graduate of Yale University and Columbia University and formerly named "America's Worst Mom", is president of Let Grow, a non-profit promoting childhood independence and resilience, and founder of the Free-Range Kids movement (and book!). She is also a speaker, blogger, syndicated columnist, author, and reality show host. A former newspaper reporter, she lives in New York City with her husband. Their sons have flown the coop, which is good for “proof of concept” purposes, but she misses them. Check out her book, Free Range Kids and all the FREE resources available at letgrow.org. Related Episodes: Episode 94. Parenthood in the Age of Fear with Kim Brooks Episode 143. Happier Parenting KJ Dell’Antonia Episode 161. The Gift of Failure with Jessica Lahey Episode 194. How to Be (and raise) an Adult with Julie Lythcott-Haims Episode 205. Thrivers with Michele Borba    Episode 211. Subtract with Leidy Klotz Episode 213. Back To School! How To Talk With Kids To Build Motivation, Stress Tolerance and A Happy Home with Dr. William Stixrud and Ned Johnson Episode 214. How to Raise Kids Who Aren’t Jerks with Melinda Wenner Moyer Episode 245. Family Firm with Emily Oster Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Asking for help can put us in a vulnerable space. For some, asking for help feels like an admission of failure or weakness. However, many (including the POTC crew) would argue that asking for help demonstrates incredible strength, intelligence, and bravery. On this episode of POTC, our co-hosts, Jill, Yael, and Debbie, gather to discuss the importance of asking for help. They provide clinician-approved methods for identifying appropriate help, asking for help, and overcoming common barriers to asking for help. Listen in to this help-filled episode, today!Listen and Learn: Why our co-hosts are drawn to the topic of asking for help Barriers to asking for help when you need it most Practical strategies to reframe shame and guilt related to asking for help Specific challenges related to seeking out professional help through therapy or coaching When to seek professional help vs. emotional support from your loved ones Important differences between therapy and friendship Clinician-approved methods for finding a therapist who’s a good fit for you and your needs Cultural challenges to finding a therapist and starting treatment Expert-approved ways to build out a reciprocal “helping network” with people you feel comfortable with Resources: Read Yael and Brad Stulberg’s Washington Post piece, Therapist or coach: Understanding the difference and how to pick one Read Debbie’s Psyche article, How to ask for help   Check out Flynn and Lake’s research on asking for help Read Zoe Chance’s Influence Is Your Superpower: The Science of Winning Hearts, Sparking Change, and Making Good Things Happen   Check out Dr. Jessi Gold’s article, Your Therapist Is Not Your Friend, Take It from a Psychiatrist  Check out Debbie, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more!   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Richard Dawkins has been quoted as saying, “The feeling of awed wonder that science can give us is one of the highest experiences of which the human psyche is capable.” Many agree with him and have referred to wonder as the beginning of wisdom, the seed of science, and the basis of men’s desire to understand. When we are little, most of us are filled with wonder and experience it often. However, we tend to lose our sense of wonder as we age into adults. On today’s episode of POTC, Dr. Frank Keil, author of Wonder, talks with Jill about why it’s so important to encourage a sense of wonder in younger generations and reconnect with our own sense of wonder as well. Join us in this episode to break cycles of over-imitation, learn about important research on wonder and well-being, engage in deeper, more interesting conversations, and so much more, today! Listen and Learn: Jill and Yael discuss the difference between wonder and curiosity Frank expertly defines wonder and provides some insight as to its history The research-backed reasons why we lose our natural sense of wonder over time Practical, evidence-based advice on fostering the continuance of wonder for your little ones Negative consequences of losing your sense of wonder The positive outcomes related to wondering with others Over-imitating - what it is, how it works, and why we continue to do it How wonder lends itself to compassion and understanding  Frank’s favorite findings from his research on wonder Expert-approved strategies on reconnecting with your sense of wonder as an adult Resources: Read Frank’s books, Developmental Psychology: The Growth of Mind and Behavior and Wonder: Childhood and the Lifelong Love of Science! Check out Chris Ferrie’s book, Quantum Physics for Babies Read Richard Dawkins’ book, Unweaving the Rainbow: Science, Delusion and the Appetite for Wonder  Check out Debbie, Yael, and Jill’s websites to access their offerings, sign up for their newsletters, buy their books, and more!   About Frank C. Keil is the Dilley Professor of Psychology, Linguistics, and Cognitive Science at Yale University. Much of his research involves asking how intuitive explanations and understandings emerge in development and how they function in adults. These topics are linked to broader questions of what concepts and explanations are, how they change with increasing expertise, how people understand the limits to their own knowledge and how they navigate the division of cognitive labor. Dr. Keil received a Ph.D. in Psychology from the University of Pennsylvania , a M.A. in Psychology from Stanford University, and a B.S. in Biology from MIT. He is the author of hundreds of articles and several books including Developmental Psychology: The Growth of Mind and Behavior, and most recently, Wonder: Childhood and the Lifelong Love of Science.Related Episodes: Episode 214. How to Raise Kids Who Aren’t Jerks with Melinda Wenner Moyer Episode 204. Ageless with Andrew Steele   Episode 207. Burnout with Debbie and Jill Episode 125. Why We Age and the Science of Longevity with David Sinclair   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dr. Clarissa Ong, a clinical psychologist and co-author of The Anxious Perfectionist, delves into the complex relationship between anxiety and perfectionism. She shares her personal journey, revealing how perfectionism can be both socially reinforced and harmful. Ong provides practical strategies for discerning helpful from harmful perfectionism, emphasizing self-compassion. The episode explores how perfectionism manifests, including indecision and cultural influences, while offering parents advice on fostering resilience in their children.