

Psychologists Off the Clock
Debbie Sorensen, Jill Stoddard, Yael Schonbrun, Michael Herold & Emily Edlynn
We are five experts in psychology, bringing you science-backed ideas that can help you flourish in your work, relationships, and health.
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Feb 1, 2023 • 1h 1min
288. The Fun Habit with Mike Rucker
We all want to live a fun and fulfilling life, but the hustle and bustle of everyday life can leave us feeling overwhelmed and exhausted. That's why it's so important to make time for fun, even as an adult. From reducing stress to better relationships and improving mental and physical health, carving out time for fun activities can have a transformative impact on many aspects of our lives. Mike Rucker, an organizational psychologist, is here to share his best practices for incorporating fun habits into our day-to-day lives. Illustrating scientific evidence from his book, The Fun Habit: How the Pursuit of Joy and Wonder Can Change Your Life, we discover why fun is beneficial and what fun habits you can create to make life more enjoyable. So, let's dive in and learn why fun isn't just for kids—it's an essential part of adult life too.Listen and Learn:
Fun: what is it all about?
What makes fun different from happiness
Why is it beneficial for us to prioritize fun as busy adults?
Finding time for fun
The importance of reminiscing on fun experiences
The question of friendship or parenting
How to create and maintain fun habits
The Rucker-PLAY model
How to incorporate more fun into our friendships
Resources:
To learn more about creating fun habits, visit Mike’s website: https://michaelrucker.com/
Visit https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781982159054 to purchase The Fun Habit: How the Pursuit of Joy and Wonder Can Change Your Life.
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About Mike Rucker Dr. Mike Rucker is an organizational psychologist and charter member of the International Positive Psychology Association whose work has been published in the International Journal of Workplace Health Management and Nutrition Research. His ideas about fun and health have been featured in The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, Fast Company, The Telegraph, Psychology Today, Forbes, Vox, Thrive Global, mindbodygreen, and more. Named one of ten digital changemakers by the Healthcare Information and Management Systems Society, he currently serves as a senior leader at Active Wellness.Related Episodes:
99. Make the Most of Your Time with Laura Vanderkam
130. Working Less with Alex Pang
192. Happier With Tal Ben-Shahar
247. Find Your Unicorn Space with Eve Rodsky
251. Wonder with Frank Keil
271. Cultivating Friendships in Adulthood Featuring Adam Dorsay
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Jan 25, 2023 • 59min
287. Think, Act, Be with Seth Gillihan
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is a powerful practice that has been proven to effectively reduce symptoms of depression and anxiety. But, while CBT can help bring us relief in the short term, it doesn't always create lasting change. That’s why many mental health professionals are now combining CBT with another technique - mindfulness. By combining the two practices, we can start to create long-term improvements in our behavior, thoughts, and attitudes.Here to discuss research-based practices from his recently published book, Mindful Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, A Simple Path to Healing, Hope and Peace, is best-selling author and psychologist, Seth Gillihan. Seth offers a model of fresh and practical strategies that build upon traditional techniques of CBT to transcend our capacity to control negative thinking and take the right steps to live in the present and enjoy life. Tune in to learn how these powerful practices can unlock a new path to healing. Listen and Learn:
Seth's experience sharing so much of his personal mental health struggle in his book
What mindfulness can do to help transcend the limitations of cognitive behavioral therapy
Why mindfulness has lost its essence and how we can use mindfulness in a way that's beneficial
An introduction to mindfulness for someone who might be resistant
Acceptance vs. passivity
Seth’s thoughts on psychiatric medication as a form of mental health treatment
The relationship between cognitive behavioral therapy and acceptance and commitment therapy
Resources:
Learn more about Seth here: https://sethgillihan.com/
Check out Seth’s podcast: https://sethgillihan.com/podcasts/
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About Seth GillihanSeth Gillihan, PhD, is a licensed psychologist who specializes in mindful cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). He was a full-time faculty member at the University of Pennsylvania from 2008 to 2012, and taught in the Psychology Department at Haverford College from 2012-2015. He has been in private practice since 2012. Seth completed a doctorate in psychology at the University of Pennsylvania. He is the author of multiple books on mindfulness and CBT, Therapy Advisor with the self-therapy app Bloom, a medical reviewer for Everyday Health, and host of the Think Act Be podcast.Related Episodes:
80. Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics with Jeff Warren
257. The Gift of being ordinary with Ron Siegel
207. Burnout with Debbie and Jill
280. Choose Growth with Scott Barry Kaufman
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Jan 18, 2023 • 1h 5min
286. Not Drinking Tonight with Amanda White
Alcohol is a pervasive part of many of our lives, but have you ever questioned your relationship with alcohol? Taking an honest look at the way we use alcohol can be a powerful tool in identifying our motivations behind drinking, allowing us to make more conscious decisions and better manage our consumption. Therapist, Author, and Founder of Therapy for Women, Amanda E. White is determined to challenge the traditional “black-and-white” outlook on “alcoholism” by encouraging people to unlock a deeper understanding of their relationship with alcohol. Exploring practices from Amanda’s books Not Drinking Tonight, A Guide to Creating A Sober Life and Not Drinking Tonight: The Workbook: A Clinician's Guide to Helping Clients Examine Their Relationship with Alcohol, we examine how to identify the purpose alcohol serves in your life and how to use this knowledge to recognize patterns of unhealthy behavior, develop boundaries and create a healthier lifestyle. Listen and Learn:
Amanda’s own journey with alcohol
Why people don't have the language to explore their relationship with alcohol
Why Amanda’s books are geared toward people who don’t necessarily meet the criteria for an alcohol use disorder
Why the black-and-white mentality of alcohol is problematic
What makes us feel obligated to give the right reason for not drinking alcohol
How therapists can examine the issue of alcohol use with their own patients
Why do emotional relationships with alcohol make it increasingly harder to cut ties
Why Amanda coined the term ‘disordered drinking’
How mindfulness practices can be helpful for people who want to change their drinking habits
The importance of self-care in cutting down or quitting drinking
What to do if we think a loved one’s relationship with alcohol is problematic, but they don't agree or they don't see it
Resources:
Learn more about Amanda and her work here: https://amandaewhite.com/
If you are looking for modern approaches to therapy, visit Therapy for Women: https://therapyforwomencenter.com/
You can buy both of Amanda’s books here: Not Drinking Tonight, A Guide to Creating A Sober Life: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780306925856 and Not Drinking Tonight: The Workbook: A Clinician's Guide to Helping Clients Examine Their Relationship with Alcohol: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781683735519
Follow Amanda on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therapyforwomen/
About Amanda E. White Amanda E. White is a licensed therapist and the creator of the popular Instagram account @therapyforwomen. She is the author of the book “Not Drinking Tonight: A Guide to Creating A Sober Life You Love,” and the corresponding workbook by the same title. She is the founder and owner of the group therapy practice, Therapy for Women Center, based in Philadelphia serving clients across the country. In her clinical work, she specializes in substance use disorders. People are drawn to Amanda’s unique expertise, accessible approach to healing and mental health. She has been featured in notable publications such as Forbes, Washington Post, Self, Shape, Women’s Health Magazine, and more. Related Episodes:
27. Alcohol and the Brain with Lara Ray
43. Willpower With Kelly McGonigal
66. Helping People Change Using Motivational Interviewing With Nadine Mastroleo
202. The Addiction Inoculation with Jess Lahey
215. How to Change with Katy Milkman
233. Dopamine Nation with Anna Lembke
235. The Urge: The Shaping of Addiction & Mental Health with Carl Erik Fisher
243. Motivation to Get it Done with Ayelet Fishbach
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Jan 11, 2023 • 1h 5min
285. What Do You Want Out of Life? Values Fulfillment Theory with Valerie Tiberius
Taking the time to reflect on our values and goals is an essential practice for living a meaningful life. By considering what is most important to us, we can gain a greater understanding of our place and purpose in this world. It can help us to determine what direction to go in and how to prioritize our time and energy. Reflecting on our values and goals can also help us to stay motivated and inspired as we work towards achieving them.Valerie Tiberius, Professor of Philosophy, is here to provide us with a practical look at how to define and fulfill our values and goals. Through illustrative examples from her book, What Do You Want Out of Life?: A Philosophical Guide to Figuring Out What Matters, Valerie guides us in finding our true purpose in life and how to get there. With her wise words and actionable advice, you’ll unlock the power to create the life you want and overcome obstacles to achieving it. Don't let this opportunity pass, take the chance to define your aspirations and make the most out of life!Listen and Learn:
How psychology and philosophy intertwine to improve well-being
An introduction to values fulfillment theory of well-being and what it has to offer
Defining values and goals from a philosophical perspective
Are some values better than other values?
Managing conflict between competing goals
Reinterpreting values
When is it time to give up a goal that is important to you?
Strategies for figuring out your values and what you want out of life
How our moral values harmonize with our other values
Real-world barriers that prevent us from realizing our goals
Resources:
Learn more about Valerie: https://www.valerietiberius.com/
Get Valerie’s book, What Do You Want out of Life?: A Philosophical Guide to Figuring Out What Matters: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780691240688
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About Valerie TiberiusValerie Tiberius is the Paul W. Frenzel Chair in Liberal Arts and Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota. Her work explores the ways in which philosophy and psychology can both contribute to the study of well-being and virtue. She is the author of The Reflective Life: Living Wisely With Our Limits (Oxford 2008), Moral Psychology: A Contemporary Introduction (Routledge 2015), Well-Being as Value Fulfillment: How We Can Help Others to Live Well (Oxford, 2018), and What Do You Want out of Life?: A Philosophical Guide to Figuring Out What Matters (Princeton University Press, 2023). She has published numerous articles on the topics of practical reasoning, prudential virtues, well-being, and moral psychology, and has received grants from the Templeton Foundation and the National Endowment for the Humanities. She served as President of the Central Division of the American Philosophical Association from 2016-17.Related Episodes:
116. Building a Meaningful, Values-based Life with Jenna LeJeune
118. Moral Injury and Shame with Lauren Borges and Jacob Farnsworth
138. Exploring Existence and Purpose: Existentialism with Robyn Walser
192. Happier With Tal Ben-Shahar
238. Values During Times of Transition (with Us)
247. Find Your Unicorn Space with Eve Rodsky
275. Work, Parent, Thrive with Yael Schonbrun
280. Choose Growth with Scott Barry Kaufman
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Jan 4, 2023 • 1h 2min
284. Things We Love with Aaron Ahuvia
We often form deep emotional relationships with things that are important to us, from cherished items to hobbies and more materialistic possessions. But why do we become so emotionally attached to the things that we love and how does this affect our lives?Here to delve deeper into the topic and talk about his book, The Things We Love: How Our Passions Connect Us and Make Us Who We Are, is author and expert on non-interpersonal love, Dr. Aaron Ahuvia. We explore the psychology of how passions shape our identity and connect us in meaningful ways, as well as offer advice for optimizing how we love and use our things to live more value-aligned lives.Listen and Learn:
Is the word 'love' accurate in describing how we feel, or is it just hyperbole?
The parallels that exist in relationships between people and the relationships between people and the objects that they love
Why do we get more frustrated with objects we love than the people we love?
The ability to love things isn't a flaw in human nature, but rather a useful trait
Loving things can detract from loving people - how to find the balance
What can materialistic people do to love things more deeply?
Letting go of objects that you are emotionally attached to
How attachment styles with people translate to our attachment style with objects
Tips for using our things in more value-aligned ways
Resources:
Visit Dr. Aaron Ahuvia’s site for more on his work: https://thethingswelove.com/about-aaron/
Sign up for Aaron’s blog: https://thethingswelove.com/subscribe/
For even more insights on the things we love, check out Aaron’s article on Peace, Love, and Happiness (and Marketing): https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/peace-love-and-happiness-and-marketing
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About Dr. Aaron AhuviaDr. Aaron Ahuvia is the most widely published and cited academic expert on non-interpersonal love. A scientific study listed him as one of the top 20 most influential scientists studying consumer behavior, out of thousands US researchers working on related topics.Dr. Ahuvia has been at the forefront of this research since he published the first major scientific study on this topic entitled I Love It! Towards a Unifying Theory of Love Across Diverse Love Objects, over twenty years ago. Professor Ahuvia has over 100 academic papers and conference presentations. His research has been quoted in Time, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Glamour, and major publications in Europe and Japan. Dr. Ahuvia has also appeared on public radio talk shows as well as popular Television shows such as the Oprah Winfrey Show.Related Episodes:
Episode 196. The Neuroscience of Marketing with Matt Johnson and Prince Ghuman
Episode 249. How to Be Single & Happy with Jenny Taitz
Episode 255. Influence is Your Superpower with Zoe Chance
Episode 281. Belonging Uncertainty and Bridging Divides with Geoffrey Cohen
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Dec 28, 2022 • 45min
283. Healthy Habits with Dayna Lee-Baggley (Re-release)
Happy New Year, dear listeners! As we begin this new year, it's a great time to start developing some new healthy habits. It may seem like a challenge, but we can do it! Let's make this year a time for taking care of ourselves and striving for the best version of ourselves.If you're serious about your health but don't feel the urge to jump out of bed, drag yourself to the gym, and reward your progress with a kale smoothie, this episode is for you! We all know what constitutes a healthy lifestyle, but it can be hard to stay consistent, especially when it feels like a chore!Join Debbie for an engaging discussion with Dr. Dayna Lee-Baggley, author of Healthy Habits Suck: How to Get Off the Couch and Live a Healthy Life….Even if You Don’t Want To, about evidence-based strategies on how to overcome the internal obstacles that make behavior change hard, and how to sustain lifelong healthy habits.Listen and Learn:
Why healthy habits violate the hard-wiring of our “caveman brain”
How linking health habits to values can make them more meaningful and build motivation
The benefits of focusing on behaviors rather than outcomes to foster success
What is a “smart goal” and how to make them work for you
How to work with the thoughts and emotions that makes healthy habits hard
Resources:
Visit Dayna's website: https://drleebaggley.com/about/
Listen to the interview Make the Most of Your Time with Laura Vanderkam mentioned in this episode here: https://offtheclockpsych.com/time/
Grab your copy of all our favorite books at bookshop.org/shop/offtheclockpsych, including Yael’s new book, Work, Parent, Thrive!
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About Dayna Lee-BaggleyDr. Dayna Lee-Baggley is a Registered Clinical Psychologist in Nova Scotia, British Columbia, Ontario and Alberta with reciprocal agreements for clients in Atlantic Canada and Quebec. For close to 15 years she worked as a Clinical Health Psychologist for medical, surgery, and cancer care units at the hospital. She has taken all this experience to open Dr. Lee-Baggley and Associates, a virtual health psychology clinic offering clinical interventions, training for healthcare providers, and educational courses on health related topics. She holds an Assistant Professor appointment in the Department of Family Medicine and a cross-appointment in the Department of Psychology and Neuroscience at Dalhousie University and an Adjunct Professor appointment in the Department of Industrial and Organizational Psychology at Saint Mary’s University. She is an internationally recognized trainer in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy.Related Episodes:
4. Habits: The Science of Behavior Change (Part 1)
5. From Awareness to Action: Behavior Change (Part 2)
43. Willpower With Kelly McGonigal
72. Committed Action with DJ Moran
132. The Joy Of Movement With Kelly McGonigal
167. Get Curious and Change Unhealthy Habits with Judson Brewer
215. How to Change with Katy Milkman
231. Eating Skills and Emotional Eating with Josh Hillis
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Dec 21, 2022 • 52min
282. Toxic Positivity with Whitney Goodman
Toxic positivity is a phenomenon that has become increasingly prevalent in recent years. It is characterized by the constant reinforcement of an overly optimistic attitude, to the point of ignoring, invalidating, or minimizing the hardships or feelings faced by individuals. This can create a sense of disconnect between people. It can also be detrimental to those struggling with mental health issues, as it invalidates their experiences and makes them feel like they are not allowed to have genuine emotions. To address the concept and challenges of toxic positivity to individuals and relationships, we consulted Psychotherapist, Whitney Goodman. Walking us through her book aptly titled Toxic Positivity: Keeping It Real in a World Obsessed with Being Happy, Whitney helps us understand how to create an atmosphere of open communication, where people can be honest about their feelings without fear of judgment or invalidation.Listen and Learn:
Toxic positivity: what does it mean?
The repercussions of toxic positivity
How toxic positivity can stunt creativity
What does healthy non-toxic positivity look like?
Why has the concept of toxic positivity become so controversial?
How to avoid toxic positivity
Toxic positivity in the workplace: challenges and solutions
How do we let go of toxic positivity?
The benefits and drawbacks of complaining
Resources:
Learn more about Whitney on her site: https://sitwithwhit.com/
Grab your copy of Toxity Positivity: Keeping It Real in a World Obsessed with Being Happy: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780593418277
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About Whitney GoodmanWhitney Goodman, LMFT, is the radically honest psychotherapist behind the hugely popular Instagram account @sitwithwhit. She is also an author and the owner of The Collaborative Counseling Center, a virtual therapy practice in Florida. Whitney's debut book TOXIC POSITIVITY: KEEPING IT REAL IN A WORLD OBSESSED WITH BEING HAPPY, shows readers how to shift the goal from being happy to being authentic in order to live fully. A millennial on a quest to make mental health information accessible and easy to understand, Whitney helps people who want to improve their relationships and emotional wellness. She earned her undergraduate degree at Tulane University and a graduate degree in Counseling Psychology from The University of Miami. Whitney has a column in Psychology Today and has been featured in several publications, including The New York Times, Teen Vogue, NY Magazine, and Good Morning America. Related Episodes:
168. Everyday Conversations: How Conversational Style Impacts Relationships with Deborah Tannen
179. How to Be An Adult in Relationships with Dave Richo
181. Stop Avoiding Stuff with Matt Boone
191. Conversations that Connect with AJ Harbinger
269. Connection Through Vulnerability with Rikke Kjelgaard
270. How Am I Doing? with Cory Yeager
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Dec 14, 2022 • 1h 9min
281. Belonging Uncertainty and Bridging Divides with Geoffrey Cohen
Belonging uncertainty is a common experience in social life. It is a feeling of not fitting into a particular social group or environment. People who experience this may feel like an outsider, isolated from those around them, or unable to connect with people in their environment. Professor of Psychology, Geoffery L. Cohen is here to remind us of the importance of fostering self-awareness to better understand our feelings and the actions we should take when faced with a sense of belonging uncertainty. Geoffery's book Belonging: The Science of Creating Connection and Bridging Divides provides a fascinating look into the realm of social psychology and how it can be used to combat the daunting feeling of not belonging. Through Geoffery's knowledge and insight, you will gain a clear understanding of the changes that can be made to conquer feelings of belonging uncertainty. His work is invaluable in the effort to empower individuals to create strong, meaningful connections and build bridges of understanding and empathy.Listen and Learn:
The role of social psychology in turning everyday encounters into opportunities for understanding, connection, and growth
An overview of Geoffery's research on social problems
Belonging uncertainty unpacked
How social climate can contribute to certain behaviors
The concept of stereotype threat
How can we cultivate a sense of belonging in the workplace
What can be done to change that feeling of not belonging?
The difference between perspective gathering and perspective taking
Bridging the divide by helping people feel heard and understood
Resources:
Geoffrey L. Cohen’s website: https://www.geoffreylcohen.com/
For more about Geoffery, check out his Stanford faculty page: https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/glc
Get your copy of Belonging: The Science of Creating Connection and Bridging Divides here: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781324006183
About Geoffrey L. CohenGeoffrey L. Cohen is a Professor of Psychology and the James G. March Professor of Organizational Studies in Education and Business at Stanford University. He is a social psychologist by training and received his PHD at Stanford and his BA at Cornell. Professor Cohen’s research examines the processes that shape people’s sense of belonging and self-concept, and the role that these processes play in various social problems. He has studied the big and small threats to belonging and self-integrity that people encounter in school, work, health care settings, politics, communities, and relationships. He and others have developed concrete, science-backed strategies to create more welcoming spaces for people from all walks of life. He believes that the development of psychological theory depends not just on descriptive and observational research but on theory-driven intervention. He has long been inspired by Kurt Lewin’s quip, “The best way to understand something is to try to change it.”Related Episodes:
51. The Psychology of Political Division with Yael and Debbie
96. Effective Conversations About Diversity with Anatasia Kim and Alicia del Prado
199. Belonging From the Inside Out with Meg McKelvie
234. The Power of Us with Dominic Packer
255. Influence is Your Superpower with Zoe Chance
262. Hope and Values in Dark Times with Us
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Dec 7, 2022 • 56min
280. Choose Growth with Scott Barry Kaufman
Striving for what you want in life can be difficult, especially when you find yourself in a stagnant situation or lack direction. However, with the assistance of Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, a Cognitive Scientist, and Humanistic Psychologist, you can learn how to implement the steps necessary to achieve your ambitions.Take a journey with us as we explore the life-changing work of Dr. Scott and Jordyn H Feingold in their new book, Choose Growth: A Workbook for Transcending Trauma, Fear, and Self-Doubt! This episode is full of empowering insights that will help you unlock your potential and create an inspiring new path for yourself. We talk about all kinds of exciting topics from reaching our goals through nontraditional paths, the growth that comes from embracing uncomfortable experiences, and the importance of finding the harmony between overusing and underusing your strengths.Listen and Learn:
Introduction to Scott and his many accolades
Scott's experience being featured in Oprah Winfrey's ‘The Life You Want Class’
Did Scott foresee bringing evidence-based psychology to such a broad audience at the start of his career?
Scott’s tips on achieving goals through non-traditional paths
The reason Scott wrote 'Choose Growth' now
The importance of internal vs external locus of control
Reimagining Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs
The value in enduring uncomfortable experiences for growth and development
The ways tribalism can hinder our growth and keep us stuck
Passive, constructive responses are the worst way to respond to somebody's good news
Healthy boundary setting
The link between healthy self-esteem and narcissism
Finding the balance between overusing and underusing our strengths
Is it necessary to screen everyone for mental health?
Resources:
Article about Jonathan Haidt “tribalism” incident: https://reason.com/2022/09/30/mandated-diversity-statement-drives-jonathan-haidt-to-quit-academic-society/
Scott’s website: https://scottbarrykaufman.com/
Yael and Brad Stulberg’s article about Therapy versus Coaching: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2022/05/05/therapist-coach-difference-choose/
About Dr. Scott Barry KaufmanScott Barry Kaufman is a cognitive scientist and humanistic psychologist exploring the mind, creativity, and the depths of human potential. He is a professor at Columbia University and founder and director of the Center for the Science of Human Potential. Scott hosts the super popular The Psychology Podcast and uses his research to help all kinds of minds live a creative, fulfilling, and self-actualized life. He is the author and editor of 10 books including his newest, Choose Growth: A Workbook for Transcending Trauma, Fear, and Self-Doubt that he co-authored with Jordyn Feingold and that we’ll be discussing today. Welcome Scott! Related Episodes:
34. Strengths, Goal Setting, and Grit with Alexis Karris Bachik
51. The Psychology of Political Division with Debbie and Yael
192. Happier with Tal Ben-Shahar
200. Growing Grit with Angela Duckworth
227. The Science of Happy with Sonja Lyubomirsky
234. The Power of Us with Dominic Packer
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Nov 30, 2022 • 1h 5min
279. ACT for Healing Black Racial Trauma with Jennifer Shepard Payne
Racial trauma has been caused by centuries of discrimination and violence against African Americans; a legacy of injustice that has had a long-term impact on mental, emotional, and psychical well-being. While there is no one-size-fits-all approach to healing Black racial trauma; transformation and change are still possible. A powerful tool to help those who have been impacted by racism is Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT).We talk with Research Scientist and Clinician, Jennifer Shepard Payne who in her book, Out of the Fire: Healing Black Trauma Caused by Systemic Racism Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, offers a thorough examination of the application of ACT to the unique problems that African Americans face. Jennifer describes how she is culturally adapting traditional ACT practices, and how this therapy can help African American communities heal from generations of oppression.Listen and Learn:
What motivated Jennifer to specialize in culturally tailoring Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) for African American communities
Why Jennifer wrote a book on healing Black Trauma
Jennifer's personal experience with racism as a Black woman in America
What Jennifer thinks about the disparity in the current mental health system for African Americans
Jennifer’s perspective on resilience in relation to Black racial trauma
What inspired Jennifer to pursue ACT, and how beneficial it can be in assisting African Americans who have suffered racial trauma
The concept of Racial Battle Fatigue
The importance of collective black values for the future
Resources:
Visit Jennifer's website to discover more about her: https://www.drjspayne.com/
Grab your copy of Jeniffer’s book: Out of the Fire: Healing Black Trauma Caused by Systemic Racism Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781684039883
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About Jennifer Shepard PayneJennifer Shepard Payne, Ph.D., LCSW, is a Research Scientist and Clinician for the Kennedy Krieger Institute in the Center for Child and Family Traumatic Stress (CCFTS) and theCenter for the Neuroscience of Social Injustice. She is also an Assistant Professor in the John Hopkins University School of Medicine with a primary appointment within the Department of Psychiatry, Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry. She serves as the coordinator of the Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) Clinical Services within the adult segment of CCFTS.Dr. Payne received her doctorate from the UCLA School of Public Affairs and is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with many years of experience in mental health clinical practice and administration. Her research interests include developing culturally tailored community-based depression and trauma interventions and addressing minority mental health disparities. For several years, Dr. Payne has been working on culturally tailoring Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) for African American communities experiencing racial trauma. She developed a culturally-tailored ACT intervention called POOF® and is training and consulting on the model: www.POOF-PullingOutOfFire.com. Additionally, she is a board member of MEND, an international organization of clinicians of color who are trauma-trained to help oppressed communities (www.mendminds.org).Her new book is called Out of the Fire: Healing Black Trauma Caused by Systemic Racism Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.


