

Two Sides of the Spectrum
Meg Ferrell
A place where we explore research, amplify autistic voices, and change the way we think about autism in life and in professional therapy practice.
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Episodes
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Apr 19, 2023 • 33min
Changing the World with Books, Narwhals, and Letting Kids Say “No” with Lei Wiley-Mydske
This conversation starts with books, then goes into more books, takes a turn into self-advocacy, and then finishes with a powerful message for therapists working with Autistic kids. And if you're wondering, we'll get to the narwhals too. Our guest, Lei Wiley-Mydske, is an Autistic and otherwise neurodivergent and disabled writer, artist, advocate, activist, and parent. Lei runs so many cool projects – including a neurodiversity library inside of a tattoo shop – that we discuss in this episode.
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Apr 5, 2023 • 48min
Safety as the Foundation for Everything with Dr. Gillian Boudreau
Often as OTs and SLPs we skip right to teaching our Autistic clients new skills. But what about their feelings of felt safety while they are with us? What work do we need to do so that we can show up calm and connected and ready to support our Autistic kids to feel truly safe enough to learn? Psychologist and school psychologist Dr. Gillian Boudreau talks us through this essential and often over-looked first -step to supporting our Autistic clients.
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Mar 15, 2023 • 48min
Helping Autistic PDAers feel Safe with Casey Ehrlich
Autistic PDAers need different kinds of supports to feel safe. And before we can provide those, we have to get curious and learn about their needs. Casey Ehrlich from At Peace Parents helps us learn how to foster true safety for our PDA clients. Content warning: this episode includes a detailed description of Autistic burnout for a young child.
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Mar 1, 2023 • 39min
Research that Centers Autistic Well-Being as Defined by Autistics with Dr. T.C. Waisman
Far too often research centers outcomes that actually harm Autistic people. Today’s guest, Dr. T.C. Waisman, helps us move toward research that centers Autistic well-being as defined by Autistics.
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Feb 15, 2023 • 41min
Gestalt Language Processing Q&A with Alex Zachos
In this episode, we field listener questions to Alex Zachos of Meaningful Speech to learn how we can more authentically and effectively support kids who learn language through delayed echolalia. This episode is a follow-up to Episode 40 on supporting Gestalt Language Processors.
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Feb 1, 2023 • 55min
The Children Who Deserve a Better World with Meghan Ashburn & Jules Edwards
Today’s guests, Meghan Ashburn from Not an Autism Mom, and Jules Edwards from Autistic, Typing, will be our guides in examining how we as professionals can create the world Autistic kids and their families deserve. Together we’ll dig through everything that is happening now for families of Autistic kids including going through the diagnostic process, finding a community of families for support, and looking for the right professionals to support Autistic kids in an affirming way. Check out Meghan & Jules’ new book, I Will Die on This Hill, at your favorite bookstore!
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Jan 18, 2023 • 46min
A Social Curriculum that Centers Authenticity with Carolyn Long and Nick Kelsch
This episode is about how we as therapists build something different to support our autistic clients' social and emotional development, with our ethics and values guiding us and our autistic students as our co-creators. Our guests are SLP Carolyn Long of Social Optics and her student-turned-colleague, Nick.
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Dec 21, 2022 • 51min
Sensory Processing in Everyday Life with Dr. Winnie Dunn
Dr. Winnie Dunn totally changed how we think about sensory processing for Autistic people. In this episode, we explore a person-centered, strengths-based way to consider our Autistic clients’ sensory needs in their daily lives. We also get Dr. Dunn’s advice on how to use her tool – The Sensory Profile II – in a way that will make your work easier and more impactful. This is a re-release of episode 16 of the podcast.
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15 snips
Dec 7, 2022 • 50min
How to Reduce Adult Demands to Increase Autistic Joy with Amanda Diekman
There’s a tool that is missing from most of our therapy bags: it’s lowering the demands for our Autistic clients. This tool is irreplaceable for helping Autistic people recover from the burnout cycle, and even for preventing burnout all together. Amanda Diekman (“Low Demand Amanda”) helps us figure out how to do just that.
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Nov 16, 2022 • 51min
Culturally Responsive Therapy for Native Autistic Kids with Jules Edwards
How does the historical and present-day trauma of Native Autistic kids impact their experience of our therapy? And how does the linear worldview of non-Native therapists create a gap between us and our Native clients? In this episode, Jules Edwards, who is Anishinaabe and Autistic, talks about culturally responsive therapy for supporting Native Autistic kids.
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