

No Vacancy The Podcast with Natalie Palmer
Natalie Palmer, Airbnb Host
A show for Airbnb hosts, new and experienced! Every Wednesday Natalie takes listeners behind the scenes of what it’s really like to be a short-term rental host, how to make it easier, mistakes to avoid, and how to get more bookings at higher rates. As an Airbnb Ambassador and 26x Superhost managing 10 properties, all remotely from home while being a stay at home mom of two, Natalie knows what it takes to succeed as an STR host and make this business fit into your lifestyle, not the other way around.
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Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 2min
161. Building a Wellness Resort WITHOUT Bringing on Investors - Interview with Brian Hatcher
This week I sit with Brian Hatcher to talk about his new Japandi-inspired wellness development in the mountains of Georgia. This 5-unit unique stay will feature a dedicated wellness center, and it's being designed by none other than my partner in crime, Tatianna Taylor-Tait, so you know it's going to ooze luxury and serenity.
Brian takes us through every step of how he found this land, the deals that fell through before finding the one, and the struggles of doing this all self-funded (that's right, Brian has ZERO investors on this)!
You'll hear Brian walk us through his start in house hacking, the rental arbitrage business he built along the way, and how his real estate journey has evolved to get him to the DREAM project. Enjoy!
Follow Brian's journey on Instagram @hatch_capital
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Jul 9, 2025 • 46min
160. Asking An STR Lawyer How Risk Exposed I Am! 😳 Interview with Katie Johnson
This week I talk with Katie Johnson PLC on all things STR law! Katie shares tons of insight on how to:
Make sure your portfolio is protected
Legally form partnerships
Ensure regulation won't change on you
Double check that you're actually allowed to STR your property
As a bonus, I share my current asset structure with me and Katie gives me a much needed reality check on how vulnerable I might be right now 😱 Hope you enjoy this one, and if you're now terrified of your risk profile, just listen to Katie's podcast or work with her directly.
Listen to Katie's podcast here.
Work with Katie Johnson PLC.
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Jul 2, 2025 • 57min
159. Managing 40 Properties WITHOUT Using VAs?! Interview with Ariel Smith
This week's episode with Ariel Smith was such a fun conversation! Ariel is the face behind Stay At The Coastline vacation rentals in San Diego, CA, and in just 8 months she's grown her cohosting business from zero to 40+ properties.
Ariel walks us through exactly how she's finding her clients, how she's grown so fast, and the details behind her unique partnership structure with her brokerage that has sped up her growth process.
Most importantly, she tells us exactly how she's managing over 40 listings without using any VAs for guest messaging?! It seems like every guest we've had on the podcast in the last 2 years is sharing how essential VAs have been to their operations, so I was dying to hear how Ariel is successfully scaling while still personally responding to every single guest message.
If you've been hesitant to hire VAs, you'll find this conversation so encouraging that you might not need to! Maybe what you're already doing is exactly your secret sauce that's helping your business thrive.
Connect with Ariel here, and check our her listings here.
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Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 12min
158. Use These Exact Scripts to Get Your Next Midterm Guest - Interview with Jesse Vasquez
On this week’s episode, I talk with Jesse Vasquez about all things midterm rental. I’ve done episodes on the MTR strategy before, but this one was next level in terms of PRACTICAL knowledge you can apply today.
By the time you’re finished with this conversation, you’ll know exactly where to find your next midterm guest, how much to charge them, how to keep the relationship warm for next time, AND how to make money even after they check out by referring them to their next rental.
My biggest takeaway from this episode was that you don’t even need property for these tips to work. Jesse shows us how he’s making $30-40k per MONTH in referral fees alone.
The bottom line, listen to this only if you’re ready for 100% occupancy, because your booking calendar is about to be slammed with leads coming in.
Connect with Jesse at @therealjessevasquez
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Jun 19, 2025 • 57min
157. This Is Scary... 2025 Airbnb Updates Are Upon Us – Interview with Marilynn Taylor
Today we catch up with Marilynn Taylor on the latest Airbnb updates (remember her from episode 56?)... could this spell trouble for hosts and set you up for MAJOR liability risk?!
I always do a solo episode whenever we have new Airbnb updates, but the summer release went right over my head. There was so much to break down, so many changing policies, so much that left hosts vulnerable... but luckily, Marilynn did the hard work of calling Airbnb and getting to the bottom of this so I didn't have to 😜
For anyone who has been scared by what you've seen on social media about this update, I think you'll find this episode really clarifying on what we actually need to worry about, and what could end up a blessing in disguise!
Watch Marilynn's webinar replay!
Read the update for yourself here.
Check the Airbnb approved list of preferred PMS partners.
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Jun 11, 2025 • 1h 4min
156. How to Dominate Markets That Lack Data & A Personal Update From Me!!!! - Interview with Madi Johnson
Today I talk with Madi Johnson. If you don't know her already from STR Book Club and her growing brand, For The Love Of Upstate (FTLOU), you may remember her from episode 96 where we talked about how Madi's favorite deals are "the ones that don't pencil in AirDNA".
When we last had her on No Vacancy in February 2024, Madi's idea of going all in on the Upstate NY market was just a gut feeling, but 15 months and 4 live properties later, she has proven her intuition true – this market, and her approach to it, is CRUSHING IT.
Some quick stats:
FTLOU is outperforming in winter 4x market projections
Their summer months are outperforming their own high-end revenue goals by 30-40%
Their social media presence has exploded, landing Madi over $18,000 in free furniture for their listings
And over $5,000 in sales commission through her affiliate shop
Over 600 DMs looking to book FTLOU properties directly
I'm also so excited to announce that I'm now working with FTLOU to help find partners for their growing portfolio!!! If you're interested in partnering on our current or next deal, fill out this investor interest form.
INVESTOR DINNER SERIES - Austin, TX | Wed, June 25th | 6:30-9pm
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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 8min
155. "I Made My Client $20k More In Peak Season With These Pricing Hacks" - Interview with Fede Zimerman
On today's episode I sit with Federico Zimerman, a revenue management and pricing genius, who is launching his brand new company, revfactor.io today!
Revfactor.io is a revenue management service, which is a fancy way of saying, Fede and his team will help you squeeze every dollar you can out of your listing calendar. You only have 365 days a year available for booking, and once a night is gone... it's GONE.
Today, Fede breaks down the 4 factors you need to look at when determining each night's price, and he tells us exactly which settings he is taking advantage of inside PriceLabs and Airbnb.
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May 28, 2025 • 59min
154. This Is Why Your Design Investment Isn’t Paying Off - Interview with Somerled Designs
This week I chat with Bri & Jordan from Somerled Designs – an STR design firm where every design decision is backed by strategy.
I almost didn't want to record this episode, because I worried that talking about design wouldn't come across on an audio-only podcast without having imagery examples. But after just a few minutes, I realized that was not going to be an issue at all! Bri & Jordan do not make a single design decision without first determining the strategy for the property, market, and guest avatar, and in this episode they walk us through that entire process.
After this episode, I'll never approach a design project with "aesthetics" first again. The Somerled philosophy will have you convinced that if you follow these steps and do this research first... then your final design will always be a good return on investment!
Click below to see some of the listings mentioned in this episode:
The Pepper Place, Waco TX
Disney House, Kissimmee FL
Howdy House, Scottsdale AZ
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May 21, 2025 • 49min
153. Investing in Hotels 101 - Interview with Neil Shah
Consider this week's episode your college-level course about investing in hotels. Today Neil Shah is an investor and operator of 10 hotels – but his journey started with him as an immigrant to the US who lived in his uncle's hotel near Disneyland. After grinding there for years, he decided to pursue a Hotel Management & Tourism degree in university... and it shows.
After this episode, I'm convinced Neil will be Professor Shah before we know it. If you've been wanting to learn more about hotel investing, management, and franchising, look no further than today's knowledge-packed episode.
Connect with Neil here.
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May 14, 2025 • 57min
152. This Couple Is STILL Finding Deals with 40-60% Returns - Matt & Amanda Sanderson
In today's episode I chat with partners (in marriage and in business) Matt and Amanda Sanderson – investors and co-founders of strIQ.
You'll remember strIQ from episode 99 where we we broke down how you can go from sifting through thousands of potential STR deals... to, like 6. For real.
You may have used other data analysis tools before to check on deals, but what makes strIQ different is how it instantly pulls MLS data. So you aren't just analyzing "markets", but actually finding profitable properties on sale now!
strIQ's technology allows you to reverse engineer your investing goals. Only want properties that can do 30% CoC return? There's a filter for that. Want listings projected to do $200,000 in annual revenue? There's a filter for that!
If you've been victim to the endless Zillow scroll... you need this.
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Invest with strIQ → investor interest form
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