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Intermediate to advanced personal finance strategies for people serious about the FIRE (financial independence retire early) movement—not just dreaming about it.
Tune in on Tuesdays and Fridays for new BiggerPockets Money episodes with your hosts, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench! Or visit BiggerPocketsMoney.com with additional resources.
Tune in on Tuesdays and Fridays for new BiggerPockets Money episodes with your hosts, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench! Or visit BiggerPocketsMoney.com with additional resources.
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Feb 17, 2020 • 1h 11min
112: Choosing the Right Tax Professional for YOUR Specific Needs with Natalie Kolodij
Natalie Kolodij is a tax strategist. (You’ve probably seen her in the forums!) With April 15 looming around the corner, we’re going to chat about ways to choose the RIGHT tax professional who can best serve YOUR specific needs.Natalie also shares a few red flags about potential tax preparers, as well as specific things your tax pro should be asking for—and what it means if they do not.She’ll also share some common missed deductions that can cost you BIG and how to prepare and organize your documents so your tax pro can process your returns quickly, efficiently, and with the least amount of time billed to you.Looking for that seemingly-elusive real estate professional status? Natalie explains in detail how to qualify for this lucrative benefit. She even shares how long you can depreciate a kangaroo!If you’re a taxpayer, this show can help you save time and money. If you’re a real estate investor/taxpayer, you can’t afford NOT to listen to Natalie’s advice!In This Episode We Cover:
The right time for somebody to start looking for a tax professional
How to find a tax professional
How important state-specific knowledge is
What a true expert can bring to the table regarding your return
What a real estate professional is
Benefits of consulting a tax professional prior to buying a property
How to prepare for a meeting with your tax professional
3 most common errors—check these before submitting your return
How to approach a tax return for a house hack or duplex
What to do if you recognize issues with past returns
What depreciation recapture is
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
MileIQ: Mileage Tracking App
BiggerPockets Forums
BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
BiggerPockets Money Survey
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Feb 10, 2020 • 1h 3min
111: Starting Late? Early Retirement Is STILL Possible with A Purple Mom
On episode 110, we interviewed A Purple Life. As she was sharing her story of financial independence, she casually mentioned that her mother didn’t start investing until later in life, and STILL managed to retire at age 55!So this week, we’re talking to her mother - who has her own amazing story of early retirement which she was able to accomplish even though she didn’t START investing until she was 40!Momma Purple shares her pragmatic approach to money in general - buying what you need, trying to make repairs instead of buying something new, sticking to a budget and banking bonuses instead of spending them.Momma Purple is also a big advocate for having multiple, passive income streams like rental properties and a pension.Hear her story of weathering TWO market crashes during her investing journey, taking immediate action when she discovered her money was in the wrong investment, and how fabulous her life is now, after retirement.In This Episode We Cover:
Momma Purple's journey with money
Her life looks like when Purple was born
How she managed her money and able to save up so much as a single mom
Things that changes her practice with money after the conversation she had with her colleague
Her 10-year plan to early retirement
Talking about her investing journey
What she do the moment she was retired
Her advice for older listeners
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
Personal Capital
Mindy's email
Scott's email
BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
BiggerPockets Money Survey
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Feb 3, 2020 • 60min
110: Systematically Increasing Income and Intentionally Decreasing Spending with A Purple Life
Purple graduated from college and got a job in New York City making $35,000 a year. And spending $35,000 a year. Her net worth was a whopping $5,000. Her partner shared the concept of financial independence with her, but she wasn’t interested.Two years later, her net worth had grown considerably, but she was still not tracking her spending or paying attention to much of her finances.So, she took a good look at her money situation and discovered that there were places she could make cuts—yet not really feel them.She moved across the country, she changed jobs, she asked for raises. And she saved and invested her money.And her net worth grew to the point that she is retiring before the end of the year and traveling the world—all because she looked at her financial situation and said, “I can do better than that!”Listen in to hear just how she increased her income and decreased her spending to craft the life she wanted!In This Episode We Cover:
Purple's journey with money
Her mom's gift
Deciding to seek financial independence
Convincing your partner to pursue FIRE
Purple's net worth
Tips for people who are looking for a new job and better income
The importance of research
Purple's plan in the future
What her retirement looks like
Possible downsides of remote work
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
Reddit
Mr. Money Mustache
Glassdoor
Indeed
PayScale
cFIREsim
BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
BiggerPockets Money Survey
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Jan 27, 2020 • 57min
109: Attacking Debt and Tenaciously Pursuing Financial Freedom with Airman Mildollar from Military Dollar
This week, we sit down and talk with Airman Mildollar, from Military Dollar.(Spoiler Alert: Despite the name, Airman Mildollar is a woman!)Airman Mildollar shares her story of college debt, car loans and rapid payoff to start building her wealth to become financially free, despite not being married, having kids or working in tech. In fact, she’s an officer in the Air Force.She shares her systematic goal setting and goal reaching strategy that allowed her to pay off her debt ahead of schedule - including stretching her military benefits to cover more than just food or housing.She started reading finance blogs and books and starting putting money away. Moving in with a friend reduced her rent payment, and she began investing in a Roth IRA, opened up a TSP (Military version of a 401k) and also invested in individual stocks in after-tax accounts, saving about 20% of her pay.Every time she received a raise, she committed to put at least 50% of that raise into her investments.In 2011, she bought a rental house as she was deploying, put tenants in place and then went overseas for one year, returned home and bought another property for herself to live in. Originally intending to live there for a year then rent it out, she ended up staying for two years then selling to realize HUGE tax-free gains.2013 is when her Financial Independence journey really hit its stride as she read Your Money or Your Life, and she took a much closer look at her budget, finding another thousand dollars to put into her investing.MilDollar shows that you CAN become financially independent on your own, without working in an ultra-high-paying job, when you diligently pursue your goal.In This Episode We Cover:
What an airman is
Airman Mildollar's money journey
Where she got her scholarships
How she creates financial freedom
Things she did on managing her finances
The reason why she didn't do househacking
On her housing and food allowance
How she discover FIRE community
What Thrift Savings Plan is
How she finance her properties
On her rental properties
Her plans in the future
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
Early-Retirement.org
Early Retirement Forum
Saving-Sherpa
Get Rich Slowly
Mr. Money Mustache
Airbnb
BiggerPockets Podcast 364: Snowballing 6-Figure Short-Term Rental Profits Into Passive Investments with Avery Carl
BiggerPockets Money Podcast 98: Change Your Money Mindset, Change Your Life with Vicki Robin
FinCon
BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
BiggerPockets Money Survey
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Jan 20, 2020 • 55min
108: Starting Early & Finishing Strong with Real Estate with Kristi Tanner Smith
Kristi Tanner Smith considers herself privileged—she was an only child in a big house with lots of toys. But Kristi’s mom was diagnosed with a fatal disease and given six months to live when Kristi was five. While her mom did beat that estimate, she ultimately lost her battle when Kristi was 12.During her mom's final years, she tried to teach Kristi about money: "Save up and pay cash for purchases. Be responsible with your finances."Her father was the opposite. So Kristi was able to see both sides of the coin and recognize that being responsible was the better way to go.Kristi lost her father to a freak accident in 10th grade, and she used the insurance settlement to pay for college, where she studied Criminal Justice. Kristi’s husband worked at Nike; they paid for his entire college tuition once he went full-time with the company.(Pro tip: If you need your college tuition paid for, look for a company that offers tuition reimbursement!)After college, she took a job in the Probation Office. She didn’t like it. To make matters worse, on her honeymoon, she discovered they were looking to replace her!She knew she didn’t want to be dependent on someone else for money, so she turned to real estate. She discovered BiggerPockets, ChooseFI, and the concept of financial independence—this became her new focus.She started with the home she inherited from her mother, then bought a home from the MLS, followed by a primary residence, then another MLS purchase, and a cabin in the mountains.Her cash flow on these few properties covers her monthly living expenses, freeing her to pursue her passions. Because when you take care of the money part, you can pursue your dreams and live the life you TRULY want!In This Episode We Cover:
Kristi's journey with money
How her mother taught her about money
Her experience with money during high school and college
Her financial position during her first job
Kristi's tip to get free tuition in college
How she discovered financial independence
Her first experience in real estate investing
What she did on her dad's life insurance policy
How she got her first property
Advice on working with a real estate agent
Tips on actively managed funds and commission-based financial planners
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
ChooseFI
MLS
Financial 180
Airbnb
Scott's Email
BiggerPockets Money Podcast 85: From Financial Disaster to Financially Free with Jacob Wade from I Heart Budgets
BiggerPockets Money Podcast 41: How to Find the Best Possible Certified Financial Planner (CFP) for Your Needs with Kyle Mast
BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
BiggerPockets Money Survey
Check the full show notes here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/moneyshow108
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Jan 13, 2020 • 1h 8min
107: Choosing Side Hustles (& Happiness!) Over Full-Time Employment with Financial Panther
Financial Panther (Kevin) went to law school, graduated from law school, and took a job as an attorney. Attorneys make a lot of money, right?So, with all this income potential, why is he doing side hustles that pay him significantly less? Happiness.Being an attorney didn’t make Kevin happy. In fact, it made him decidedly unhappy. He changed jobs several times but in the end decided being a lawyer simply wasn’t for him. So, he left the field to pursue fun things that he liked doing.Kevin loves to be outside. He lives near a university in a large city. He loves dogs. Put that all into a shaker, and out comes Kevin 2.0.Kevin 2.0 takes dogs for walks during lunchtime. He gets out of his downtown office (he makes himself go to a co-working space so he accomplishes things every day) and delivers meals to office workers who can’t get away.Kevin walks dogs around the downtown area for their owners who can’t get away at lunchtime to take them out. Kevin charges scooters overnight, and on his way home, he delivers even more meals.Best of all? Kevin gets to spend time outside almost every single day. He does what he CHOOSES to do, regardless of what it pays.Financial freedom isn’t about quitting your job. It's about living your best life, which Kevin 2.0 is now doing.In This Episode We Cover:
Kevin's journey with money
How he started learning about money
His position when he got his first paycheck
The differences between his salary at the big law firm versus at the non-profit job
How Kevin and his wife handle student loan debt
How he generate his income in spite of being unemployed
Kevin's side hustles
The reason why he does side hustles instead of doing law-related jobs
What his day and night looks like while doing his side hustles
Tips on reselling things
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
Rover.com
Airbnb
Postmates
DoorDash Food Delivery
Uber Eats
Grubhub
Wag!
Become a Bird Charger
Bird Charger and Lime Juicer - Financial Panther
Craigslist
Facebook Marketplace
eBay
Mad Fientist
BiggerPockets Money Podcast 20: The Simple Path to Wealth—Index Funds Explained with JL Collins
BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
BiggerPockets Money Survey
Check the full show notes here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/moneyshow107
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Jan 6, 2020 • 1h 4min
106: Planning For Your Future Wealth with Megan Gorman from The Wealth Intersection
Megan Gorman started learning about money very early – at age 5 she begged her parents for a Little House on the Prairie Dress. Her parents said we’re not buying it for you, but you can save up for it yourself. 18 months later, she was the proud owner of a new dress – and a bonus bonnet from her parents who were so proud of her for saving up and being so determined.Fast forward to high school, and she got a job at a vacation resort during the summer high season. Her father made it clear she was to save some of her earnings to contribute to her college tuition, and she was able to save $5,000 a summer. Her experiences with money were empowering up through college, but she ended up with credit card debt and eventually had to negotiate with the banks on a payoff.She took a year off between college and law school, choosing a state law school to keep her costs low. Megan graduated from law school, got a job, and had to navigate adulting – getting an apartment, buying a work wardrobe, starting her adult life on very little funds, again trying to not incur more debt after having so recently paid off her credit cards. Megan’s student loan story is different from others we’ve heard on the Money podcast – while she aggressively paid down her private loans, Megan actively chooses NOT to pay off her public loans because they have such a low interest rate. She feels she can make a better return in the S&P 500, so she leverages her debt and is comfortable with her decision. However, Megan readily admits this strategy is NOT for everyone, and you definitely need to be comfortable with the decision to continue to carry debt. Once her private debt was paid off, she started investing in a Roth IRA and 401k to grow her assets.And because she’s from Generation X, Megan bought a house when she got a HUGE promotion. She watched the value of her home soar, then sold to move to California. She bought in 2007 in CA, and watched that price drop, then rise again. Location location location.Megan now advises high net worth and ultra-high net worth individuals manage their money, because no matter how much money you make, everyone struggles with expenses.And today, Megan shares excellent advice with us for strategically thinking about our money for the present as well as planning for the future.In This Episode We Cover:
Megan's journey with money
The best way to raise kids
How her money story evolved during her high school and college days
Her debt planning
Interest rate she recommends for those paying off debts
The best approach to taxes
The first big thing she did when she started making money
Her real estate beliefs
Helping older parents
Planning her own financial future
What a position capable of taking risks looks like
Her take on high net worth individuals
Cash flow management
Her opinion on the 4% rule
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast
BiggerPockets Intentional Journal
BiggerPockets Money Facebook Group
BiggerPockets Money Survey
Check the full show notes here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/moneyshow106
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Dec 30, 2019 • 1h 2min
105: Budgeting Yourself OUT of Debt and Into a Fantastic Life with Jen Hemphill
Jen Hemphill was born in Colombia and lived there for the first eight years of her life. The economy was really bad, and her earliest memories were of a scary time when her educated father did whatever he had to do to make money.Her redheaded dad stood out in Colombia, and it wasn’t a safe place for him to be. So, they moved to the U.S. Jen remembers being embarrassed for not having money, knowing her friends had it.She attended the same college where her mother was a professor. Discounted tuition coupled with scholarships and a bit of parental help allowed her to graduate with no debt. She bought a car, paid it off quickly, and felt very proud of herself for doing so.Then, she met and married her husband. They took 15 years to pay off his $40,000 in student loan debt. She thought they were doing great, but a deeper look at their finances about 10 years in revealed a huge mess.Thinking back to her childhood, she realized she needed to make big changes in order to get ahead. Her family went on a budget, cutting out all unnecessary spending to focus on paying off the debt. Jen uses a series of labeled bank accounts to ensure they stick to their budget and now saves for purchases rather than raiding the emergency fund to pay for things.Jen took what she learned and became an Accredited Financial Counselor, knowing that there are so many others who need to be pointed in the correct direction. She calls herself a Money Confidence Coach, because when you have confidence in your money management skills, you can tackle any problem.In This Episode We Cover:
Jen's money story
How she made money to buy things she likes
Her position entering and leaving college
The reason why she got a discount on college
Having a mindset of being an extremely frugal person
How long it took to pay off her family's debt
The reason why she took a hard look at finances within her marriage
Her financial awakening
Her upbringing
Her Thrift Savings Plan and emergency fund
The importance of accepting and understanding individual money stories
Having 15 separate bank accounts
What her future plans are
Money issues that she sees repeatedly in her clients
Examples of variable expenses
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
BiggerPockets Forums
Waffles on Wednesday: Make Your Own Free Mobile Expense Tracking App in 30 Minutes
BiggerPockets Money Facebook Page
BiggerPockets Money Survey
Check the full show notes here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/moneyshow105
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Dec 23, 2019 • 1h 17min
104: Cash-Flowing a Series of Mini-Retirements with Steven & Lauren from Trip of a Lifestyle
Lauren and Steven met in high school and attended the same college. After undergrad, Steven was accepted into the Ph.D. program at UC Irvine. During the first year, he decided he didn’t really want a Ph.D. in Physics, but he really enjoyed working with students.They moved back to Florida so Steven could get his master’s in Education, while Lauren worked her first “real” job.But after two years, they were burned out from working full-time. After learning about financial independence and achieving an incredible savings rate—to the tune of $100K in two years—they decided to take a break.Their “break” was a six-month trip to Hawaii, paid for up front by their big savings account—but repaid by a series of side hustles in Hawaii. While most people spend lavishly to go on a tropical vacation for one week, they ended up $1,000 positive while spending six months there.Re-energized, they returned to Florida for a full-time job for Lauren and a continuing tutoring job for Steven—making more money than before they left for Hawaii. Increased income meant increased savings rate for these two, having lowered their expenses by purchasing a three-bedroom condo, periodically renting out an unneeded bedroom.But after about three years, they felt burned out again. This time their “break” was a trip around the country to visit every national park—all 61 of them—in seven months. Again, they wanted to pay for the trip with income generated during the trip.They cut expenses by buying a compact cargo van and sleeping in it for the majority of the trip. They continued working about 10 hours a week during the trip, rented their condo for seven months, and hit the road.Each time they return from their mini-retirements, they are refreshed, re-energized, and ready to jump back into work with both feet. Their end goal isn’t early, permanent retirement, but several small mini-retirements to enjoy their journey.In This Episode We Cover:
Lauren and Steven's journey with money
How they managed their money during their college years
How they saved $100K in two years
Their monthly income and expenses
Preparations to go to Hawaii
How they managed their cash flow while staying in Hawaii
What they did when they returned to the mainland
Their strategy for asset allocation
Working part-time while on the road
How they get internet access while traveling
Their freelance business
The ideas behind financial independence
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
BiggerPockets Forums
Mr. Money Mustache
The True Cost of Commuting - Mr. Money Mustache (blog)
HealthCare.gov
BiggerPockets Money Podcast 84: Traditional Retirement: Social Security, Market Conditions, & Managing Expectations with Kyle Mast
BiggerPockets Money Podcast 41: How to Find the Best Possible Certified Financial Planner (CFP) for Your Needs with Kyle Mast
BiggerPockets Money Podcast 11: Financial Freedom in Less Than Five Years with Joel from FI 180
XY Planning Network
Check the full show notes here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/moneyshow104
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Dec 16, 2019 • 1h 14min
103: Budgets Really ARE Sexy! with J. Money
J Money wasn’t necessarily BAD with money, but his first home purchase - made because everyone else was doing it - prompted him to seek out advice about money.He stumbled upon the blogging world and was enthralled with the transparency. Here were real people talking about real issues they were facing - similar to what he was going through himself.He started his own blog called BudgetsAreSexy, and soon was approached by someone who wanted to buy an ad on the site. A new source of income generation!His blog success brought attention from national news sites, and traffic grew exponentially once they started sharing his articles. But as traffic grew, so did his time commitment. As he became more entrenched in the blogging space, he discovered that people buy and sell blogs - so he started flipping web sites. Another source of income generation.When it came time to choose between his full time job and his side hustle, he discovered the decision was made for him when he was called into his manager’s office and let go. (The company later went out of business.)Thrust into entrepreneurship, J buckled down with his spending, and discovered that Budgets really ARE sexy, and they can be the key to your financial success.Topics:
J's journey with money
How he came across blogging world
What his biggest financial regret is
Building income on buying blogs
Where he got his blog name "Budgets Are Sexy"
How he handle his personal financial position
The moment he created his budget
The 'no spend month' challenge
Talking about his net worth
How important time for him is
What his wife doing for work
His plan for the future
His advice on starting a blog
The biggest help to fix his finances
The reason why he was called as Miley Cyrus of finances
And SO much more!
Links:
70+ Ways to Make Money on The Side - Budgets are Sexy
Do You Know Your Insurability? - Budgets are Sexy
Reddit
BiggerPockets Money Podcast 100: From Financial Disaster to Real Estate Master with Brandon Turner
BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast
BiggerPockets Forums
Blogger.com
Listen Money Matters
BiggerPockets Money Podcast 45: The Truth About Entrepreneurship with Matt Giovanisci
Profiles:
Budgets are Sexy
Rockstar Finance
J. MONEY
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