Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast

Miranda Grattan Marie Delorme Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Miranda Grattan and Marie Delorme to the podcast to discuss integrating body awareness and somatic therapy into MI. Marie Delorme is a Certified Motivational Trainer based in Ottawa, Canada, regularly offering MI training and coaching internationally. She is a somatic psychotherapist certified in Integrated Somatic Therapy Practice (C-ISTP™) and provides trauma-informed therapy in both in-person and virtual settings. Marie’s work integrates motivational interviewing with body-based practices such as restorative yoga, breathwork, Thai yoga massage, movement, and sound therapy. She is passionate about creating safe, supportive spaces where people can reconnect with their bodies, release stress and trauma at their own pace, and move toward greater clarity, self-compassion, and personal growth. Miranda Grattan is a Registered Social Worker (RSW, MSW), MI trainer and consultant, and a Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner (SEP™). She has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2013 and served as a coach for the MINT-endorsed online Training New Trainers (TNT) in 2025. Based in Prince George, Canada, on the unceded lands of the Lheidli T’enneh, her work is grounded in relational, decolonizing, and anti-oppressive practice. Miranda is also an approved Advanced-level Training Assistant and a beginner-level Personal Education Session Provider within Somatic Experiencing® International’s three-year professional training program. Drawing on her years of MI practice and teaching, alongside her work as a body-oriented trauma therapist, she explores an emerging contribution within the MI community: how attention to nervous system capacity, embodiment, and neurobiology can deepen MI spirit, presence, and evocation. Her approach blends close observation of MI in action with practical guidance for nervous-system-informed communication and practice. She also facilitates neurobiologically informed professional learning across service systems, informing her understanding of motivation, capacity, and readiness in complex practice contexts. Somatic Experiencing International (SEI) Disclaimer The Somatic Experiencing® modality is provided for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute providing medical advice, medical treatment or tools used for diagnosing or treating a health problem or disease. Those seeking personal medical advice should consult with a licensed physician.  For more information about the Somatic Experiencing modality, please visit the website www.traumahealing.org.  SEI does not endorse, approve, or support any specific authors, practitioners, or contributors unless explicitly stated otherwise. Views, opinions, methodologies, or practices expressed by individuals regarding SEI modalities are their own and do not necessarily reflect the official views of SEI.  Episode Index:         0:00 – Opening and episode introduction          7:05 – Marie and Miranda’s introductions and early MI stories       14:15 – Marie and Miranda’s early experiences with body focused work       19:00 – Noticing the body when doing MI       31:00 – Alignment of the mind, the heart, and the body       36:45 – Integrating body awareness and MI       46:35 – What does a body need when it is healing itself?       56:10 – Marie demonstrating a resting somatic exercise    1:05:15 – Miranda demonstrating an activating somatic exercise    1:27:10 – “The body as a doorway to motivation”     1:28:30 – Marie working on balance and Miranda being an ice hockey mom    1:32:46 – End of recording  Links and contact information: Marie Delorme Website: https://www.mariedelorme.com Email: Marie.c.delorme@gmail.com Instagram: @mariecarmendelorme  Miranda Grattan Website: https://www.inneroasiscc.ca/about-me  Email: mirandagrattan@gmail.com  Connect with Glenn & Seb 📧 Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 93 – Integrating Body Awareness into Motivational Interviewing appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Episode 92 – Motivational Interviewing in Oncology Cancer Care Glenn and Sebastian were excited to have Dr. Maya Obadia on the podcast to discuss MI in oncology cancer care. Maya is a Registered Psychotherapist and a Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) certified MI trainer. She is currently a Lecturer in Kinesiology and Psychology at the University of Guelph-Humber, an affiliate of the ELLICSR Cancer and Survivorship Centre at UHN, and Director of Maya Obadia Training and Psychotherapy.  Her expertise is in MI for behaviour change in populations with chronic disease. Maya has received her doctorate from the Institute of Medical Science, Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto, and training at Sickkids in Toronto where she developed a MI training program for primary care physicians to use when treating children with obesity. Maya’s post doctoral fellowship training in the Department of Psychiatry, University of Toronto, and at UHN, paved the way for use of MI as an integral part of Cancer Rehabilitation and Survivorship at the Princess Margaret Cancer Centre. Maya continues to be involved in curriculum writing, training and research in oncology and health related programs. She has authored research papers and book chapters. Maya continues to consult with various research institutions and non profit supporting programs and curriculums in health behaviour change. Maya offers a variety or programming and trainings both in person and online as well as speaking engagements. Episode index:      0:00 – Episode intro      5:39 – Maya’s introduction and early MI story    12:00 – Ambivalence in Oncology    17:37 – Effective information giving using Elicit-Provide-Elicit (or Ask-Offer-Ask)    22:10 – Supporting a person with changing needs throughout their cancer treatment    28:15 – System-wide implementation of MI    39:10 – The use of important and confidence rulers     49:00 – Trusting the MI process: “MIsting the plants”    60:50 – Maya preparing for future trainings and travel    53:53 – End of episode Links and resources: Email: maya@mayaobadia.com  Website: http://mayaobadia.com/ Instagram: @drmayaphd     CANO publication: https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.cano-acio.ca/resource/resmgr/survivorship_modules/SurvMod_Unit_10-ENG-Sample.pdf Relevant Citations Ritvo P, Obadia M, Santa Mina D, Alibhai S, Sabiston C, Oh P, Campbell K, McCready D, Auger L, Jones JM. Smartphone-Enabled Health Coaching Intervention (iMOVE) to Promote Long-Term Maintenance of Physical Activity in Breast Cancer Survivors: Protocol for a Feasibility Pilot Randomized Controlled Trial. JMIR Res Protoc. 2017 Aug 24;6(8):e165. doi: 10.2196/resprot.6615. PMID: 28838886; PMCID: PMC5590009. MacDonald AM, Chafranskaia A, Lopez CJ, Maganti M, Bernstein LJ, Chang E, Langelier DM, Obadia M, Edwards B, Oh P, Bender JL, Alibhai SM, Jones JM. CaRE @ Home: Pilot Study of an Online Multidimensional Cancer Rehabilitation and Exercise Program for Cancer Survivors. J Clin Med. 2020 Sep 25;9(10):3092. doi: 10.3390/jcm9103092. PMID: 32992759; PMCID: PMC7600555. Flora PK, Lopez P, Mina DS, Jones JM, Brawley LR, Sabiston CM, Ferguson SE, Obadia MM, Auger LE. Feasibility and acceptability of a group-mediated exercise intervention for gynecological cancer survivors. J Psychosoc Oncol. 2022;40(6):770-789. doi: 10.1080/07347332.2021.1939474. Epub 2021 Jun 29. PMID: 34185628. Connect with Glenn & Seb 📧 Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 92 – Motivational Interviewing in Oncology Cancer Care appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Ken McMaster, a seasoned social work practitioner and author, dives into the transformative power of motivational interviewing (MI) in addressing intimate partner violence. He highlights the importance of curiosity over confrontation to engage clients effectively. Ken also emphasizes the need to explore clients' histories with violence while maintaining compassion and accountability. By combining MI with cognitive-behavioral therapy and innovative tools like AI, he seeks to foster intrinsic motivation and support men in their journey toward positive change.

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dougie Marks and Mairi Albiston on the podcast to discuss MI in Dentistry. Dougie’s work concerns the furthering of knowledge of the ways in which science-based practice can be used to answer one of the oldest philosophical questions: “How should we live?” He is a Health Psychologist, CBT Therapist and Lecturer in Behavioural Sciences at the University of Glasgow, where he is based in the Medical School. His work spans the areas of teaching, research, consultancy and clinical practice. He uses a biopsychosocial model to understand the human condition and works with organisations, groups, and individuals to point people towards the development of the wholly integrated self. As well as teaching and researching at the University of Glasgow, he keeps a small clinical caseload of individual clients experiencing a variety of difficulties. His approach to therapy is individualized, based on the needs of each unique client. He has worked with a variety of international organisations to help them develop their working environment in such a manner that best facilitates the psychological health of their workforce.   Mairi Albiston (MA, MSc, PhD, DClinPsy) is a Clinical Psychologist who lives in Glasgow. Mairi works as Head of Programme for Physical Health and for Supervision, within the Psychology Directorate of NHS Education for Scotland. She leads a teaching programme based on MI principles for staff working in the Scottish NHS and Partnership setting in physical health and dental settings. She qualified in 2005 and specialises in adult mental health (with a particular specialism in trauma) and physical health (including weight management, plastic surgery, stroke and cardiac specialisms). She used to work in a dental hospital in 2010 treating dental anxiety and she has a special interest in the Psychology of Dentistry. She also oversees and teaches clinical supervision skills. In her spare time she is a mad keen walker and busies herself with her 4 kids! Episode index: 0:00 – Episode intro 4:03 – Dougie’s and Mairi’s introduction and early MI stories 14:30 – Incorporating MI in dentistry training 19:15 – Zooming out from the mouth 23:15 – Cultural shifts in training programs 29:55 – MI in dentistry evidence base: Findings and future directions 39:30 – Sequencing of change 44:00 – Speaking change into reality 49:40 – Trauma informed care in dentistry 1:06:52 – End of episode Links and resources: – Email: Mairi.Albiston@nhs.scot and dougie.marks@glasgow.ac.uk – LinkedIn: Dr Mairi Albiston and Dr Dougie Marks  – Paper citation: Aiman H, Kilgariff JK, Marks D, Albiston M. Does motivational interviewing have a role in dentistry? Br Dent J. 2025 Feb;238(3):166-171. doi: 10.1038/s41415-025-8319-x. Epub 2025 Feb 14. PMID: 39953022. For suggestions, questions, and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing, contact Glenn & Sebastian: Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 90 – MI in Dentistry appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Glenn and Sebastian bring you a different sort of episode. Recorded over three parts, plus a brief intro, they discuss a clinical scenario that Sebastian was involved with through the lens of Doing and Being MI. They consider the four elements of the MI spirit and discuss the technical element of evoking change talk. Episode index: 0:00 – Episode intro 2:07 – Part I begins 6:15 – Overview of the group 18:15 – How do we know if we are being helpful? 34:28 – Part II begins 47:00 – How does change talk fit? 1:03:30 – Part III begins 1:20:06 – End of episode For suggestions, questions, and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing, contact Glenn & Sebastian: Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes, CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 89 – Doing and Being MI appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Episode 88 – Using Motivational Interviewing in Crisis Response Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Casey Jackson to discuss using Motivational Interviewing (MI) in crisis response situations. Casey is the CEO of the Institute for Individual and Organizational Change and an internationally recognised expert in evidence-based communication that drives real-world results. With over 40 years in behavioural health, Casey has trained thousands of professionals across healthcare, social services, first responders, and government—helping leaders and teams turn intention into lasting impact. He is a long-time member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) and the lead author of the Motivational Interviewing Competency Assessment (MICA), a widely adopted tool for building fidelity in MI practice. Casey’s work centres on translating powerful communication strategies into practical tools that empower people to lead with clarity, connect with purpose, and create lasting change. Episode index: 0:00 – Episode intro 6:25 – Casey’s introduction and early MI story 10:30 – “How do we help people help people?” 13:45 – Bridging law enforcement with mental health 19:50 – Deescalating the brain with MI 29:15 – Helping police officers respond to people in crisis 34:15 – The five intentions/mindsets: 1) Activation; 2) Guiding; 3) Expressing accurate empathy; 4) Partnership; and 5) Evoking 43:05 – Beyond reflective listening 58:30 – Opening an MI-based clinic 1:03:16 – End of episode Links and resources: Email: casey.jackson@ifioc.com For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing, contact Glenn & Sebastian: Email: podcast@glennhinds.com BlueSky: ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us: GBP All Episodes The post Ep 88 – Using Motivational Interviewing in Crisis Response appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

 Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing   Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Daniel Mullin, PsyD, MPH to discuss Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing. Dan is the Director of the Center for IPC and a Professor in the Department of Family Medicine and Community Health at UMass Chan Medical School. Dan is a clinician, educator, researcher, and consultant specializing in the integration of behavioral health and primary care services. He maintains a clinical practice embedded in the Barre Family Health Center, a rural family medicine residency practice in Massachusetts. Dan is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers and provides training in Motivational Interviewing to healthcare providers. He is a developer of the Practice Integration Profile, a measure of the integration of behavioral and primary care services.         Episode index:        0:00 – Episode intro      4:30 – Dan’s introduction and early MI story    10:08 – What is helpful about MI in high risk situations?    16:15 – “Your patient begins to teach you…”    21:10 – Making decisions based on thoughts    25:15 – IPC and why MI is a good fit    32:00 – Four principles of IPC: 1) Access; 2) Coordination; 3) Continuity; 4) Comprehensiveness    44:10 – Expanding the scope of practice for medical and behavioral health practitioners    48:35 – How MI offers a common language for integrated primary care    51:51 – Empathy as a way to “do no harm”    57:00 – Dan’s department celebrating its 50 year anniversary 1:01:02 – End of episode   Links and resources: Center for Integrated Primary Care website – https://www.umassmed.edu/cipc/ For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   BlueSky ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan     For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes   The post Ep 87 – Integrated Primary Care and Motivational Interviewing appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.

Join Colin O’Driscoll, an accredited psychotherapist and MINT Training Coordinator, Kenzie Leffingwell, a passionate advocate for suicide prevention, and Mark Bowley, an AOD workforce development officer. They discuss the rewarding journey of becoming a MINTie and the challenges faced by aspiring trainers. The conversation highlights the power of community, the significance of experiential learning, and the integration of motivational interviewing in crisis support. They inspire listeners to pursue education in mental health and emphasize the importance of compassion in the field.

Dr. Allan Zuckoff is a clinical psychologist with over 30 years dedicated to motivational interviewing research and training. In this discussion, he explores ambivalence as a strength in therapeutic settings. Zuckoff emphasizes the importance of integrating values into practice, fostering strong client relationships. He navigates the complexities of emotional resilience and the significance of recognizing anticipatory discord in therapy. The conversation also highlights how curiosity about client struggles can lead to meaningful behavior change.

Episode 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction Glenn and Sebastian welcomed David C. Hodgins, Ph.D., R.Psych., FCAHS, FRSC, to the program to discuss MI for gambling addiction. Dr. Hodgins is a professor in the Program in Clinical Psychology in the Department of Psychology, University of Calgary and is director of the Addictive Behaviours Lab at the University of Calgary. Dr. Hodgins is also a research coordinator with the Alberta Gambling Research Institute. His research interests focus on various aspects of addictive behaviours including relapse and recovery from substance abuse and gambling disorders. Dr. Hodgins teaches in the clinical psychology program and has an active cadre of graduate students. He maintains a private practice in Calgary in addition to providing consultation to organizations internationally.      Episode index: 0:00 – Opening and episode preview 05:56 – David’s background and early MI story  17:22 – Early work with people who gamble and the development of a self-help book 22:25 – Differences and similarities between gambling and other addictions 29:20 – MI for gambling  37:00 – Change talk and sustain talk in the context of MI with people who gamble 48:40 – Supporting the autonomy of people who gamble 53:40 – What is important for a gambling clinician to know? 1:01:38 – Working with industry to support harm reduction efforts 1:07:30 – End of episode     Contact info and related links: Email: dhodgins@ucalgary.ca  Learn more about David’s research and team: www.addiction.ucalgary.ca Workbooks and other self-help material: https://ucalgary.ca/labs/addictive-behaviours/resources/workbooks      For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian   Email: podcast@glennhinds.com   X (Twitter) ChangeTalking Glenn Hinds Sebastian Kaplan   For all previous episodes CLICK HERE   We welcome all donations to support us GBP All Episodes The post Ep 84 – MI for Gambling Addiction  appeared first on Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants.