

The Corner Series
McGuireWoods
“The Corner Series” is a multiperspective podcast series by McGuireWoods featuring commentaries from lawyers, bankers and a number of specialists about the developments and issues dominating today’s middle-market private equity. Tune in with McGuireWoods partner, Geoff Cockrell as he and specialists share real-world insight to help enhance your knowledge.
McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we do gives our clients a competitive edge in everything they do. Our law firm, over its 186-year history, has earned the loyalty of our many long-standing clients with a deep understanding of their businesses, and broad skills in corporate transactions, high-stakes disputes, and complex regulatory and compliance matters.
To learn more about our discussions, please email host Geoff Cockrell at gcockrell@mcguirewoods.com or visit our website at mcguirewoods.com.
This series was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this series, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this installment. The views, information or opinions expressed are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This series should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we do gives our clients a competitive edge in everything they do. Our law firm, over its 186-year history, has earned the loyalty of our many long-standing clients with a deep understanding of their businesses, and broad skills in corporate transactions, high-stakes disputes, and complex regulatory and compliance matters.
To learn more about our discussions, please email host Geoff Cockrell at gcockrell@mcguirewoods.com or visit our website at mcguirewoods.com.
This series was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this series, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this installment. The views, information or opinions expressed are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This series should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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Nov 19, 2025 • 24min
Episode 116: What’s Next in the Psychedelics Market, With Matt Brockmeier and Rebecca Nicholson
Join Matt Brockmeier, co-founder of Emtheogen and legal expert on psychedelics, and Rebecca Nicholson, director at Prime Quadrant with a passion for wellness investing, as they dive into the intriguing world of psychedelics. They explore the ongoing legal tensions between state and federal regulations, and Rebecca highlights the unique investment opportunities in psychedelics versus cannabis. The duo also discusses the medical community's cautious embrace, the need for innovative research, and the supportive wellness practices enhancing psychedelic care.

Oct 28, 2025 • 27min
Episode 115: Tracking the Fast-Growing Payor Services Market, with Patrick Keavy
Payor services is an “enormous marketplace,” says Patrick Keavy, managing director at Bailey & Co. In this conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell, Patrick, who focuses on payor services within healthcare, shares his insights about the market and its future. Tune in as he reviews the growth of employer-sponsored healthcare, cost-containment strategies that companies can leverage, and the results of his research into the verticals and subverticals that Bailey & Co. covers. Request a copy of Bailey & Co.’s report “The Rise of Cost Containment in Employer-Funded Healthcare.”Connect and Learn More☑️ Patrick Keavy | LinkedIn☑️ Bailey & Co | LinkedIn | X ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Oct 15, 2025 • 29min
Episode 114: Private Equity Partnerships and Market Trends, With Geoff Cockrell
The tables turn as McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell steps into the guest seat, and Gordon Maner, CEO of the AMB group of companies and co-founder of Frontline Healthcare Partners, takes on hosting duties. Gordon and Geoff explore critical dynamics in healthcare M&A, from preparing first-time sellers for the rigors of a transaction to navigating the delicate partnership between private equity buyers and founder-led businesses. They discuss current market conditions, the resurgence of provider services deal activity and why focusing on market power rather than investor type makes more sense for regulation.Connect and Learn More☑️ Gordon Maner | LinkedIn☑️ Frontline Healthcare Partners | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Sep 30, 2025 • 22min
Episode 113: From Transactions to True Impact, With Marc Cabrera
From New York to the Rocky Mountains, Marc Cabrera’s journey has spanned high-stakes healthcare deals to hands-on community service. Once a Wall Street investment banker, Cabrera is now the founder of Four Corners Capital, a Colorado-based investment firm focused on healthcare. In this conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell, he shares how his view on making an impact has evolved — from executing milestone transactions to serving as a volunteer firefighter.“For me, it comes down to this: If I’m going to spend an hour or a day doing something, what kind of impact can I have — for my community, the broader world, my family and myself?”Tune in to hear Cabrera’s insights on time allocation, strategic networking and the lesser-known challenges of the deal advisory business.Connect and Learn More☑️ Marc Cabrera | LinkedIn☑️ Four Corners Capital | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Sep 16, 2025 • 8min
Episode 112: Proving Private Equity's Value in Healthcare, With Lauren Makhoul
Lauren Makhoul explores how private equity empowers healthcare providers to prioritize patient care by alleviating administrative burdens. She shares compelling evidence showing that private equity-backed physician groups achieve better health outcomes while reducing costs. The discussion highlights significant trends, including lower Medicare spending and improved follow-up care, all while enhancing competition in the healthcare landscape. Tune in for valuable insights at the intersection of healthcare and private equity.

Sep 2, 2025 • 22min
Episode 111: State Regulatory Interventions in Healthcare, With Tim Fry
“For clients in the healthcare space, having a state-based compliance program has grown in importance,” says Tim Fry, partner in the healthcare group at McGuireWoods. With McGuireWoods colleague and host Geoff Cockrell, Tim unpacks how state-specific legal treatment has changed dramatically in the last several years.He explains how states such as California and Oregon built hostility to private equity into their premerger notice laws while other states diverge on noncompete enforceability even after federal rulemaking failed.Tune in for his insights about the shifting regulatory landscape.Connect and Learn More☑️ Tim Fry | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Aug 18, 2025 • 9min
Episode 110: Rooting Out Bad Actors in Private Equity, With Lauren Makhoul
Lauren Makhoul dives into the complex world of private equity in healthcare, urging a nuanced approach to identifying bad actors. She highlights how loopholes allow exploitative practices to thrive across all providers, not just those backed by private equity. The discussion touches on the inadequacies of current regulations, advocating for systemic reforms that address underlying issues. Makhoul emphasizes that while private equity faces scrutiny, provider-owned businesses often operate with less oversight, complicating the narrative surrounding healthcare investments.

Aug 13, 2025 • 22min
Episode 109: Equipping PE Partners With Services for Success, With Tim Schulte
Tim Schulte, head of the Value Creation team at Council Capital, shares valuable insights from the healthcare-focused private equity world. He discusses how their firm empowers portfolio companies with tailored support systems, emphasizing collaboration over control. The conversation touches on strategies for optimizing executive talent and the importance of understanding business relationships. Schulte highlights the challenges of sourcing operational talent and the role of advisory councils in ensuring shared missions drive impactful investments.

Aug 4, 2025 • 12min
Episode 108: Site of Care Optimization, With Lauren Makhoul
Site-of-care optimization makes a difference, and that’s made possible by private equity investing in healthcare. Lauren Makhoul, principal at Avalere Health, explains this dynamic in the first installment of The Corner Series Shorts with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell.When private equity-backed platforms invest in ambulatory surgical centers, they capture facility fees while moving procedures to lower-cost settings, benefiting physicians and the healthcare system. This optimization improves patient experience through better scheduling, convenient locations and dedicated facilities while reducing overall healthcare costs.A spinoff of The Corner Series, The Corner Series Shorts delivers quick, high-impact insights from dealmakers and thought leaders at the intersection of healthcare and private equity. Each short episode — less than 10 minutes — offers a focused look at key trends, timely topics and expert perspectives.Connect and Learn More☑️ Lauren Makhoul | LinkedIn☑️ Avalare | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

Jul 28, 2025 • 21min
Episode 107: Integration Over Aggregation in Oral Surgery, With Trevor Maurer
“For us to invest in a business and not improve it doesn’t make sense as an investment,” says Trevor Maurer, CEO of OMS360, a Shore Capital-backed dental platform specializing in oral surgery. In this conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell, Trevor explains how OMS360 invests and improves its partners’ practices through its operating system, which optimizes the patient journey through time and motion studies.Observing that “the days of rack-and-stack are over,” Trevor emphasizes the importance of integration over aggregation. “If you can really integrate and create synergies, driving better patient outcomes and performances,” he says, “investors will want to be a part of your business.”Connect and Learn More☑️ Trevor Maurer | LinkedIn☑️ OMS360 | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.


