

Meaningful Work Matters
Eudaimonic by Design
Welcome to the Meaningful Work Matters podcast from Eudaimonic by Design.
On this podcast, our host Andrew Soren dives into the world of meaningful work, exploring its complexities and examining its impact on people and the organizations they’re a part of.
Each episode features insightful conversations with cutting edge experts on the latest research and practice around meaningful work. Whether you're passionate about creating impact, or you're a leader looking to cultivate a positive work culture, this podcast will give you ideas, frameworks and tools to unlock potential and design work so that its fulfilling, impactful and supports our wellbeing.
Subscribe or follow us now, and let's make meaningful work MATTER.
On this podcast, our host Andrew Soren dives into the world of meaningful work, exploring its complexities and examining its impact on people and the organizations they’re a part of.
Each episode features insightful conversations with cutting edge experts on the latest research and practice around meaningful work. Whether you're passionate about creating impact, or you're a leader looking to cultivate a positive work culture, this podcast will give you ideas, frameworks and tools to unlock potential and design work so that its fulfilling, impactful and supports our wellbeing.
Subscribe or follow us now, and let's make meaningful work MATTER.
Episodes
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May 14, 2024 • 46min
Mapping Meaningful Work: Lessons from Marjo Lips-Wiersma
This episode of Meaningful Work Matters is a rich conversation with researcher Marjo Lips-Wiersma on navigating meaningful work. Marjo Lips-Wiersma, Professor of Ethics and Sustainability Leadership at Auckland University of Technology, has researched meaningful work, sustainability, hope and well-being for decades, and her work is utilized by organizations worldwide. She is also the co-director of Map of Meaning.In this episode, Marjo and Andrew discuss the complexity of defining meaningful work and why it can be difficult to discuss in organizations. Marjo also outlines key dimensions of workplace meaning, including contribution, potential, relationships, and integrity.Marjo provides tools for reconciling inspiration and reality, helping listeners understand meaningful work in both aspirational and grounded terms.Overall, this thought-provoking discussion offers frameworks to design work that supports people's well-being in a meaningful way.

Apr 29, 2024 • 47min
Discovering Your Calling: Lessons from Jeffery Thompson
In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Andrew interviewed Jeff Thompson, Director of the Sorensen Center for Moral and Ethical Leadership and long-time professor at Brigham Young University.
Jeff Thompson shares his insights from over two decades of teaching and researching meaningful work, particularly in healthcare. He defines a calling as the convergence of natural talents, passions, and purpose, illustrating its historical roots and contemporary relevance.
Drawing on recent research, Jeff discusses the concept of a "transcendent calling" and its profound impact on motivation and fulfillment. He highlights studies, including one on zookeepers, that challenge stereotypes and reveal deep dedication rooted in passion and purpose.
Jeff provides actionable strategies for leaders to cultivate gratitude, growth opportunities, and a sense of community among their teams.

Apr 15, 2024 • 37min
Building a "We Culture": Lessons from Dr. Isaac Prilleltensky
In this episode, we sat down with Dr. Isaac Prilleltensky, Mautner Endowed Chair in Community Well-Being and Professor of Educational and Psychological Studies at the University of Miami. Dr. Prilleltensky is also an internationally renowned keynote speaker, author, researcher, and well-being advocate.
Andrew and Dr. Prilleltensky discuss the importance of meaningful work and mattering. Dr. Prilleltensky draws from his scholarly research on topics like justice, mattering, and well-being, as well as his practical experience improving workplace environments.
Dr. Prilleltenky shares insights into how feeling valued through recognition while adding value to others through meaningful contributions are key but often overlooked aspects of workplace engagement. He discusses strategies for prioritizing employee dignity, recognition, and collective success to create a "we culture" where fairness and belonging are prioritized over individual pursuits.
For people managers and leaders: you will learn concrete ways to foster environments where all staff feel they matter.
If you'd like to learn more about Dr. Prilleltenky or get in touch, head this way!

Apr 1, 2024 • 46min
Unlocking Gifts, Strengths, and Potential: Lessons from Dr. Evgenia Lysova
In this episode, we sat down with Dr. Evgenia Lysova, Associate Professor of Organizational Behavior at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam.
Dr. Lysova is on a mission to help people find more significance in their work and daily lives. But she doesn’t shy away from the topic's complexity. In this episode, she delves into the interplay between individual values, job design, corporate social responsibility (CSR), and societal expectations that shape our pursuit of meaningful work.
Amidst the evolving landscape of work, particularly with the advent of artificial intelligence, Dr. Lysova explores the challenges and opportunities in sustaining meaningfulness.
The conversation also ventures into practical strategies for individuals and organizations to cultivate a culture where meaningful work thrives, emphasizing the importance of mindfulness, reflection, and fostering supportive relationships.
Join us as we unravel the layers of meaningful work, offering insights for organizational leaders, coaches, and consultants who aim to unlock the full potential of their teams and create work environments that help unlock people's gifts, strengths, and potential.

Mar 18, 2024 • 39min
The Many Paths to Meaningful Work: Lessons from Michael Pratt
In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Andrew sits down with Michael Pratt from Boston College’s Carroll School of Management. With over two decades of research on meaningful work, Michael offers profound insights on the nuances of what makes work personally significant and worthwhile.
Michael shares six work orientations that people tend to bring to their professional lives. We might be motivated by utilitarian motives, status, passion, service, kinship or mastery. Michael draws from his extensive organizational behavior and sociology background to show the influence of culture on our perceptions of meaningful work. Michael reflects on his research journey, highlighting the pivotal role of familial upbringing, societal norms, and media portrayals in shaping our understanding and motivations around work.
As the discussion unfolds, Pratt shares actionable strategies for organizations looking to cultivate a more meaningful work environment. From fostering open dialogue to providing opportunities for role customization, he offers pragmatic advice for leaders seeking to empower their teams and foster a sense of purpose and fulfillment in their work.
Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that promises to inspire meaningful change in how we validate meaningful work in ourselves and others.

Mar 4, 2024 • 45min
Work-Family Interface: Lessons from Joe Grzywacz
In this episode, Andrew speaks with Joe Grzywacz about the work-life interface and its profound impact on health and well-being. Joe is currently the Associate Dean of Research and Faculty Development at San Jose State University in the College of Health and Sciences.
Throughout the conversation, Joe shares insights from the Mid-Life in the United States study (MIDUS) - a national longitudinal study of health and well-being in the US - aimed at understanding successful aging. MIDUS is unique because it measures social, biological, economic, and psychological factors across disciplines. Today, it is one of the largest studies of its kind, funded by the National Institute on Health.
Andrew and Joe also explore the complex interplay between work and family, highlighting the enriching synergy and potential discord between these spheres. Joe contrasts the segmented reality prevalent in the United States with the integrated ethos found in other cultures. He also delves into the pervasive phenomenon of alienation, which can erode the significance of work and impact mental health.
Ultimately, Joe encourages listeners to pursue meaningful work while cautioning against pursuing perfection, urging individuals to embrace the intrinsic value embedded within life's multifaceted domains.
Join us for a thoughtful discussion on human flourishing and fulfillment!

Feb 19, 2024 • 40min
Humans First, Workers Second: Lessons from Sara Steffens
In this episode, Andrew speaks with Sara Steffens about the humanity of work, employee activism, and the ethical duty of worker well-being.
Sara is the Director of the Worker Power Coalition and is a strong advocate for worker empowerment. She uses her experience growing up in a working-class family to drive her passion for social justice and grassroots organizing. With a particular focus on the rights of marginalized workers, Sara is a champion of intersectional activism and works hard to amplify diverse voices. Even beyond her role, Sara mentors future leaders and contributes to national discourse through media appearances.
Andrew and Sara discuss the unique role of unions in promoting dignity and decency in the workplace, as well as the power dynamics that often lead to the exploitation of workers. They explore the intersection between employee activism and meaningful work, highlighting the positive impact of activism on individual well-being and workplace change.
The conversation also touches upon the impact of the pandemic on worker well-being, the need for policy changes to support workers, and the importance of recognizing the humanity of workers in organizations.

Feb 5, 2024 • 44min
People Over Perfection: Lessons from Steve Leventhal
In this episode, Andrew speaks with Steve Leventhal about the role of meaningful work within a global, social-impact organization and how leaders should emulate their mission and values internally through training and modeling behavior.
Steve Leventhal is the Founder and CEO of WorldBeing, which addresses the challenges and intersections between inner health and global well-being. WorldBeing programming focuses on vulnerable and marginalized adolescent women and youth in low and middle-income countries.
Steve and Andrew discuss the notion of meaningfulness within a deeply meaningful workplace, such as a nonprofit or social impact organization. Steve suggests employees approach the work from a place of compassion versus anger to avoid burning out. He also reflects on his approach to building his organization, emphasizing internal training that mirrors the programming the organization delivers to its beneficiaries.
Steve reflects on the early days of founding his nonprofit and walking a fine line between pushing his envisioned values and listening to what his staff wanted to emulate and foster.
We know you’ll leave this conversation feeling inspired, motivated, and possibly reevaluating how meaningful work shows up in your life.

Jan 22, 2024 • 28min
Transcendent Values and Peak Experiences at Work: Lessons from Scott Barry Kaufman
In this episode, Andrew speaks with Scott Barry Kaufman about transcendence, humanism, and what Abraham Maslow would have thought about meaningful work today.
Scott has done groundbreaking research on intelligence, creativity, and human potential. He is the founder and director of the Center for Human Potential and the founder of Self-Actualization Coaching. Scott is interested in using his research, podcast, teaching, and coaching to help all minds live a creative, fulfilling, and self-actualized life. His early educational experiences made him realize the deep reservoir of untapped potential of students, including bright and creative children diagnosed with a learning disability.
Over the last few years, Scott has dug deep into the work of Abraham Maslow. In this conversation, we hear why Maslow never would have described our human needs as a pyramid. Instead, our journey to self-actualization and transcendence is more like a sailboat. The hull represents our safety, connection, and self-esteem needs — keeping us floating on top of the water. Our sails, fueled by exploration, purpose, and love — provide us with a system of growth that allows us to travel great distances.
As the conversation deepens, Scott shares Maslow's vision for the psychology of the peace table, reflecting on the urgent need to understand human nature, division, and the potential for peace. The episode resonates with wisdom, challenging listeners to reconsider their perspectives on work, growth, and the profound possibilities embedded in meaningful living.
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Jan 8, 2024 • 48min
Leading Meaningful Work: Lessons from Wes Adams and Tamara Myles
In this episode, Andrew speaks with Tamara Myles and Wes Adams. Both Tamara and Wes are accomplished consultants, trainers and speakers who have extensively researched the relationship between meaningful work and leadership, and in this episode, they share their findings and experiences.
During this conversation, Tamara and Wes discuss impact potential, recruiting for values, and fostering personal connections. They point out that adopting these behaviors can make workplaces more harmonious and productive.
This podcast episode offers valuable insights into how organizations can create a more inclusive and collaborative workplace culture. By implementing the six behaviors discussed in the episode, leaders can bridge generational and cultural divides and make work meaningful for everyone.
For those interested in following along with Wes and Tamara's research, be sure to visit: makeworkmeaningful.co while you wait for the release of their book.
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