Meaningful Work Matters

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Jun 17, 2025 • 41min

How Storytelling Shapes Identity and Growth: Lessons from Latika Nirula

What does it take to grow into a new professional identity—especially when the role doesn’t yet feel like your own?In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Andrew is joined by Dr. Latika Nirula, Director of the Centre for Faculty Development at the Temerty Faculty of Medicine at the University of Toronto. Latika supports healthcare professionals as they step into the role of educator (often for the first time) and helps them navigate the inner conflict that can arise when their identity doesn’t yet align with their responsibilities.This conversation reflects on the role of storytelling, reflection, and community in shaping how people see themselves. Andrew and Latika also share their own experiences with imposter syndrome and speak candidly about what it feels like to be in a role where you’re still finding your footing.Key TakeawaysTeaching is more than a task. For many, it becomes an identity they grow into over time.Clinical educators often carry a strong sense of who they are as healthcare providers but need support to build confidence in their role as teachers.Imposter syndrome can be a sign that someone is stretching into something new. With the right support, those feelings can lead to growth.Community plays a critical role in how people make meaning of their work. Feeling part of something bigger can help people reconnect to purpose.Reflection and relationship are key to making professional growth feel meaningful and sustainable.Why This Episode MattersMany people take on roles they were never formally trained for. This episode offers a clear look at what helps people build confidence and find meaning when the path feels uncertain. It also highlights the kinds of conversations and communities that make that journey easier.About Our GuestDr. Latika Nirula is an educational psychologist and the Director of the Centre for Faculty Development at the University of Toronto’s Temerty Faculty of Medicine. Her work focuses on coaching, faculty development, and helping clinical educators build their identity and capacity as teachers. She leads initiatives that bring people together through shared reflection and professional community.P.S. Looking to bring more reflection and shared learning into your own team?We’ve outlined one of Latika’s team rituals, called Critical Conversations, in our companion blog post. Check it out here!
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Jun 2, 2025 • 51min

How to Make Work Psychologically Rich: Lessons from Shige Oishi

What if a good life (or a good job) isn’t just about pleasure or purpose—but about complexity, depth, and surprise?In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Andrew is joined by Shige Oishi, Professor of Psychology at the University of Chicago, to explore his research on psychological richness. Shige challenges the longstanding view that happiness and meaning are the primary ingredients of well-being, and makes the case for a third dimension that’s often overlooked.Together, they unpack what can make life feel full: curiosity, variety, a willingness to stray from the expected, and the ability to make sense of it all.Shige shares how this idea applies not just to life in general, but to how we design our work, navigate our growth, and foster well-being in organizations.Key Takeaways:Psychological richness is the diversity and complexity of life experience—and it matters just as much as happiness or purpose.People who pursue psychological richness tend to be more curious, adventurous, and open to growth.Even highly structured jobs can become more enriching through small changes, creative framing, or playful experimentation.Autonomy, storytelling, and exposure to the arts can help cultivate richness at work and beyond.Why This Episode Matters:If we want to make work, and life, feel truly fulfilling, we need more than comfort or cause. We need richness: the bittersweet, unpredictable, meaning-making stuff of experience.About Our Guest:Shige Oishi is a professor and leading well-being researcher at the University of Chicago. He studies how culture, context, and social conditions shape our understanding of what it means to live well. He’s also a parent, a lover of art and literature, and a firm believer in taking the scenic route—even on the way to class.
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May 19, 2025 • 49min

Fix the System, Not the People: Lessons from Jordan Friesen

Has work ever felt like dodging a storm of flying bricks?In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Andrew is joined by Jordan Friesen, occupational therapist and President of Mindset Mental Health Strategy. Jordan draws on both lived experience and years of consulting with organizations across Canada to challenge a common assumption: that workplace mental health is something employees should manage alone.Together, they explore why many well-being efforts fall short, what it means to take a systems-based approach to mental health, and how leaders can build environments where people aren’t just coping—but actually able to thrive. With a focus on systems, leadership, and accountability, Jordan offers a practical roadmap for making workplaces safer, healthier, and more supportive.Key Takeaways:Supporting mental health at work starts with redesigning harmful systems—not offering more individual coping tools.Meaning and purpose can only flourish when people feel safe, supported, and not overwhelmed by structural stressors.Managers have as much impact on employee well-being as a spouse or partner—and need training to support that role.Emotional literacy, feedback, and vulnerability are essential leadership skills in today’s workplaces.Measuring impact—through story, data, or both—is critical to sustaining mental health initiatives over time.Why This Episode Matters:If we want people to find meaning at work, we need to start by eliminating the harm work can cause. This episode highlights how meaningful work starts with responsibility, thoughtful systems, and a commitment to well-being by design.About Our Guest:Jordan Friesen is the President of Mindset Mental Health Strategy Inc. He is a mental health expert with experience leading national programs and initiatives focused on workplace mental health. Jordan helps organizations take progressive action to support employee well-being—grounded in research, systems thinking, and his own lived experience of illness and recovery. A skilled educator and registered occupational therapist, he’s known for his pragmatic approach and ability to influence leaders at all levels.
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May 6, 2025 • 47min

Purpose Beyond the Self: Lessons from Kendall Cotton Bronk

Kendall Cotton Bronk, a Professor of Psychology at Claremont Graduate University and an expert in positive youth development, shares her insights on purpose and meaning. She discusses how purpose evolves across life stages and its importance for well-being. Highlighting the impact of social media and generational shifts, she examines how shared purposes strengthen family and community bonds. Kendall also emphasizes the necessity of aligning purpose with character to contribute positively to society, offering practical wisdom for cultivating a meaningful life.
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Apr 22, 2025 • 51min

Rethinking Meaningfulness Through a Cultural Lens: Lessons from Mohsen Joshanloo

What does it mean to live well—and does that definition change depending on where you’re from?In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Andrew Soren is joined by Dr. Mohsen Joshanloo, a cross-cultural psychologist and social scientist based in South Korea. Mohsen’s research challenges dominant Western models of well-being and explores how culture shapes our experiences of happiness, autonomy, and purpose.Grounded in both theory and global data, Mohsen shares how our understanding of "meaning" is not only culturally shaped but deeply connected to our motivation, mental health, and resilience.The conversation also highlights implications for leaders and organizations: if we want people to find purpose in their work, we must first help them feel like they matter.Key Takeaways:Autonomy and meaning look different across cultures—there is no one-size-fits-all model.Emotional happiness isn't everyone's highest goal; fear of happiness is real and often culturally influenced.Eudaimonic well-being (based on purpose, virtue, and contribution) can predict future emotional well-being more than the other way around.People who lack purpose often place more importance on money for evaluating life satisfaction.Leaders can foster purpose at work by creating environments where people feel valued and impactful.Why This Episode Matters:If you’re a leader, HR professional, or researcher, this episode offers new insights into cultural differences in well-being and how these impact motivation and satisfaction at work.Resources Mentioned:Mohsen Joshanloo’s personal websiteFeatured Open-Access Research:Authenticity and Well-beingAversion to HappinessCulture and Well-beingAbout Our Guest:Dr. Mohsen Joshanloo is a personality and cross-cultural psychologist whose research explores mental well-being, culture, personality traits, emotions, and xenophobia. With a global perspective, he integrates data from countries across six continents to challenge the Western-dominated narrative in psychological science. Mohsen advocates for a more inclusive, international approach by incorporating insights from non-Western cultural contexts.He is currently an Associate Professor in the Department of Psychology at Keimyung University in South Korea and an Honorary Principal Fellow at the Centre for Wellbeing Science at the University of Melbourne. Through his work, he continues to expand our understanding of how different cultures define and pursue happiness, purpose, and well-being.
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Apr 7, 2025 • 37min

Ancient Wisdom in the Age of AI: Lessons from Sara Wolkenfeld

In this episode, Sara Wolkenfeld, Chief Learning Officer at Sefaria, joins Andrew to explore how ancient Jewish wisdom can guide our relationship with emerging technologies like AI. Drawing from traditional texts and her experience making Jewish wisdom accessible through digital tools, Sara offers insights on maintaining our humanity while embracing technological progress.Key Takeaways:Jewish tradition distinguishes between assigned labor (Avodah, עֲבוֹדָה) and creative labor (Melechah, מְלָאכָה), offering a framework for deciding which tasks to delegate to AI and which to preserve for human hands and mindsInstead of asking if AI can do a task better, we should ask: "How do we want to spend our time?" and aim to free ourselves up for work that aligns with our deeper purposeClear organizational values and mission statements are essential for making ethical decisions about which technologies to adopt and how to implement themMeaningful work doesn't always feel comfortable or easy – challenge and even occasional struggle can be part of what makes work meaningfulAbout Sara Wolkenfeld:Sara Wolkenfeld is the Chief Learning Officer at Sefaria, an online database and interface for Jewish texts. She is a member of Class Six of the Wexner Field Fellowship, a rabbinic alumna of the David Hartman Center at the Hartman Institute of North America, and serves as Scholar-in-Residence at Ohev Sholom Congregation in Washington, DC. Her current research and writing focus on the intersection between Jewish ethics and advancements in technology. Sara and her husband, David, live in Washington, DC with their five children.Resources Mentioned:Sefaria: Online platform making Jewish texts accessible (www.sefaria.org)Sara Wolkenfeld's article in The Atlantic: Work, Labor, and Artificial Intelligence in Jewish TextsSara's article in Religious Dispatches: How An Ancient Story of Renegade Rabbis Can Help Us Navigate ChatGPTOhev Sholom Congregation in Washington, DC: www.ohevdc.org
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Mar 24, 2025 • 56min

Offering and Killing Meaning at Work: Lessons from Petra Kipfelsberger

In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, Andrew sits down with Petra Kipfelsberger, Associate Professor for Leadership and Organizational Behaviour at BI Norwegian Business School. Andrew and Petra explore how leaders can inspire meaningful work through authentic communication and visionary leadership while avoiding behaviors that diminish employees' sense of purpose.Key Takeaways:Leaders offer opportunities for meaning rather than creating it directly - employees must discover their own sense of purpose"Meaning killing" behaviors like ignoring contributions or failing to provide feedback can significantly undermine employees' sense of purposeSimple practices like timely acknowledgment and specific affirmation can make a significant difference in fostering meaning at workAbout Petra Kipfelsberger:Petra Kipfelsberger is an Associate Professor at BI Norwegian Business School with a PhD from the University of St. Gallen. Her research focuses on inspirational leadership, meaningful work, and how organizations thrive during uncertainty. She has been a Visiting Research Fellow at Boston College and IESE Business School, serves as a board member of IGNITE, and coaches global C-level executives.Resources Mentioned:Viktor Frankl's work and life storyKilling Me Softly With His/Her Song: How Leaders Dismantle Followers' Sense of Work MeaningfulnessDeveloping Authenticity: A Quasi-Experimental Investigation
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Mar 10, 2025 • 52min

The Five Dimensions of Job Crafting: Lessons from Rob Baker

In this episode of Meaningful Work Matters, host Andrew Soren sits down with Rob Baker, founder of Tailored Thinking and a leading voice on job crafting. They explore how individuals can shape their work to better align with their strengths and values, making small but meaningful changes that measurably boost performance, well-being, and job satisfaction.Key Takeaways:Job crafting involves personalizing your work in five key areas: tasks, skills, purpose, relationships, and well-being - creating small changes that make your job a better fit for you.Effective job crafting doesn't require massive changes - even "micro-crafting" for 5-10 minutes daily can significantly impact your energy, engagement, and satisfaction at work.Leaders can support job crafting by listening sincerely, creating space for experimentation, and embedding crafting conversations into regular performance discussions.About Rob Baker:Rob Baker is the founder and Chief Positive Deviant of Tailored Thinking, an award-winning evidence-based positive psychology and HR consultancy. Named #8 Most Influential Thinker by HR Magazine in 2023, Rob is a world-leading expert on job crafting in workplaces. He's a TEDX speaker and author of "Personalization at Work," a finalist at the 2021 Business Book Awards.With a first-class Masters in Applied Positive Psychology from the University of Melbourne, Rob combines academic rigor with practical application, helping organizations make work better and make better work.Resources Mentioned:Tailored Thinking: tailoredthinking.co.ukConnect with Rob on LinkedIn and InstagramPersonalization at Work - Rob's book on job crafting
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Feb 24, 2025 • 52min

Balancing Generosity and Boundaries: Lessons from Reb Rebele (Part Two) [Part 2]

Collaboration and generosity are essential for meaningful work, but what happens when they become too much of a good thing? Could saying yes too often be holding you back?In part two of our conversation with Reb Rebele, we explore the hidden costs of collaboration and generosity in the workplace. Building on last week's discussion about personality dynamics, Reb shares why organizations face ‘collaborative overload’, how helpful employees often burn out first, and what individuals and teams can do to reclaim their time and energy. Reb shares practical strategies for balancing helping others with protecting our own wellbeing, from setting boundaries to reassessing team norms around meetings and communication. If you've ever felt overextended at work or struggled to manage the demands of collaboration, this episode offers valuable frameworks for creating more sustainable ways of working together.Key Takeaways:Organizations need systematic approaches to manage collaboration, from tech tools to meeting policies."Selfless" helping can actually reduce impact - maintaining healthy boundaries helps sustain meaningful contributions.Effective collaboration requires both individual strategies (like resource management) and organizational solutions.About Our Guest:Reb Rebele is a psychological scientist and advisor who teaches at the University of Melbourne and whose research on personality psychology and organizational behavior has been published in leading academic journals and outlets such as The Atlantic and Harvard Business Review. Reb’s work focuses on understanding how individuals and organizations can work together more effectively while supporting wellbeing.---Want to move from theory to practice? Join our pilot PodClub session on February 26th, where thoughtful professionals like you will explore how to make meaningful work a reality. Learn more at eubd.ca/podclub.
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Feb 17, 2025 • 53min

Understanding Our Multitudes: Lessons from Reb Rebele [Part 1]

What if your personality isn't as fixed as you think?In this Meaningful Work Matters two-part episode, psychological scientist and organizational behavior expert Reb Rebele joins Andrew to explore how understanding personality dynamics can help us navigate meaningful work more effectively.Drawing from research at the University of Pennsylvania and the University of Melbourne, Reb challenges common assumptions about authenticity and explains how different aspects of personality can be intentionally adjusted to meet goals while maintaining sincerity.Key Takeaways:Everyone contains multitudes: We all have different sides to our personality that we can express in different situationsAuthenticity isn't about consistency: Being "true to yourself" means acknowledging and working with your various authentic expressionsResource management is crucial: Expressing different aspects of your personality at work requires understanding your energy needs and restoration patternsStrategic self-regulation: Learn how to be "the right version of yourself at the right time" through intentional personality regulationAbout Our Guest:Reb Rebele is a psychological scientist and advisor who teaches at the University of Melbourne and who’s research on personality psychology and organizational behavior has been published in leading academic journals and outlets such as The Atlantic and Harvard Business Review.Part 2 of this conversation, coming out next week, Reb and Andrew explore the dynamics of collaboration and generosity in the workplace.Want to move from theory to practice? Join our pilot PodClub session on February 26th, where thoughtful professionals like you will explore how to make meaningful work a reality. Learn more at eubd.ca/podclub.

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