

THE RUNNING EFFECT PODCAST
Dominic Schlueter
The Running Effect tells the best stories in running—and turns them into insight, inspiration, and tools to help competitive runners become greater.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport—from Olympic medalists to breakthrough athletes—to unpack the stories, lessons, and mindset behind elite performance. Whether you’re chasing a personal best or looking to understand how greatness is built, The Running Effect will make you a deeper fan of the sport—and a better runner.
Every week, host Dominic Schlueter sits down with the fastest, smartest, and most inspiring people in the sport—from Olympic medalists to breakthrough athletes—to unpack the stories, lessons, and mindset behind elite performance. Whether you’re chasing a personal best or looking to understand how greatness is built, The Running Effect will make you a deeper fan of the sport—and a better runner.
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Oct 5, 2024 • 49min
Sinclaire Johnson Shares Honest Reflections On Her Ups & Downs In 2024, Her New Coach And Training Setup, & Lessons From Her Successful Career
Back on the podcast is Sinclaire Johnson!
Sinclaire holds PRs of 1:59 (800m), 3:56 (1500m), and 8:37 in the 3k.
While running at Oklahoma State University, she was the 2019 NCAA Champion in the 1500m. She was the 2022 USATF Outdoor 1500m Champion where she then went on to place 6th at the 2022 World Championships hosted in Eugene, Oregon.
She is the 6th fastest US woman all-time in the 1500m.
Sinclaire runs for NIKE and announces on this podcast her new coach and training setup...
In addition to discussing this, Sinclaire walks me through her 2024 season, the setbacks she experienced, and lessons she learned from them, her approach to 2025 and beyond, and so much more!
I always have so many takeaways after my conversations with Sinclaire due to her openness and vulnerability when discussing her running. Take the time to listen to this one as I know it will bless you!
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S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Oct 2, 2024 • 1h 15min
NIKE's Sean McGorty Shares Lessons & Reflections From His 2024 Season + His Thoughts On NIL, Old XC Stories, & More
Sean McGorty recaps his 2024 season on the podcast today!
Sean holds PRs of 3:33.67 (1500m), 3:53 (Mile), 7:32.79 (3k), 8:20.77 (Steeplechase), 13:02.13 (5k), and 27:18.15 (10k). Sean was also a part of the 4x1500m AR team.
Sean made the 2023 World Championships in Budapest, where he made both the 5k and 10k teams! Sean also made the 2022 World Championships in the 10k.
Sean competes for Nike's Bowerman Track Club and has for his entire professional career.
For those who aren't familiar with Sean, he has a long history of success from the time he was in high school. In high school, he won more state-championships and had more accolades than one could remember. In college, Sean became an NCAA Champion in the 5k at Stanford University and pushed forward that program to a new level in his years of representing the farm.
In today's conversation, Sean takes me through his 2024 season, the ups/downs, and everything in between. We discuss his ambitions for the future, why humans are hard on themselves, reflections from his career thus far, XC stories from back in the day, and much more.
Anytime I get Sean on the podcast, it's a deep, thoughtful conversation. Today is no different! You won't want to miss this one.
Tap into the Sean McGorty Special.
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S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Sep 30, 2024 • 56min
Olympian & Spanish Record Holder Mario Garcia Romo Shares Reflections From His 2024 Season
The Spanish Rocket Mario Garcia Romo returns to the podcast.
Mario holds PRs of 1:46.9 (800m), 3:47 (Mile - Spanish National Record), 4:49 (2k), & 7:34 (3k). Mario placed 4th at the 2022 World Champions in Eugene, Oregon, and then placed 6th in the 1500m at the 2023 World Championships in Budapest, Hungary, and had multiple top performances at Diamond Leagues around the world.
In high school, Mario had personal bests of 1:50.66 in the 800m, 3:42.35 in the 1500m, and 8:12 in the 3000m. Mario then went to Ole Miss, where he quickly made a name for himself as one of the top runners in the nation. Mario was a 7-time All-American & 6-time SEC Champion. Perhaps the pinnacle of his NCAA years, Mario won the Mile at the 2022 Indoor Track and Field Championships. He placed fourth at the 2022 World Championships in Eugene, Oregon. That same summer, he placed third at the European Championships in the 1500m.
In today's conversation, Mario takes me through his 2024 season in full. We discuss his time / performance at the Olympics, his injury and how he's recovering, his mindset on how the year went, if he thinks Jakob should move on from the 1500m, and so much more!
Tap into the Mario Garcia Romo Special.
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S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Sep 27, 2024 • 48min
3xGeorgetown School-Record Holder Chloe Scrimgeour Shares The Ins & Outs Of NCAA Running
Today on the podcast is multiple-time All-American Chloe Scrimgeour!
Chloe competes for Georgetown University, where she's been absolutely dominant over the years.
Chloe is a 5xAll-American, a 4xBig East Champion, and the School Record Holder in the 3k, 5k, and 10k.
She holds PRs of 8:50 (3k), 15:21 (5k), 32:29 (10k), and 19:28 (6k on grass).
In today's conversation, Chloe takes me through her journey in sport, her ambitions for her last year at Georgetown, how she balances school and running, why she doesn't like social-media, her NIL with Brooks, and much more!
It was a fun time learning about one of the biggest up-and-coming stars in the NCAA! Take the time to listen to the story of Chloe!
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If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Sep 25, 2024 • 1h 12min
Former Notre Dame School Record Holder Ron Markezich Shares Stories & Lessons From His Successful Career On & Off The Track + Lessons From Parenting An NCAA Champion
Today on the podcast is former Notre Dame school-record holder, Ron Markezich!
On April 13, 1989, Ron ran 28:44 in the 10k to set a new Notre Dame school record that would last two decades. He was also an All-American in XC placing 11th on the grass.
In high school, Ron won state titles and did some crazy things, like running 9:05 in the 3200m as a sophomore (unheard of for the 80s).
After his successful years in the sport, he transitioned into corporate life where he was unbelievably successful, becomingan executive at Microsoft. He is currently the CEO of Lighthouse.
He has four kids: Jordan, Cambria, Olivia, and Andrea. Three of them went onto run in the NCAA and Olivia is currently a professional runner for On and won an NCAA title in the Steeplchase last June.
In today's conversation, Ron takes me through his years of running growing up, what training was like back in the day, his legendary recruiting visit to Notre Dame, his years at Notre Dame, transitioning out of the sport, lessons from his successful years at Microsoft, parenting, and much more!
This was genuinely one of my favorite conversations I've had this year. It is thoroughly entertaining, while also beingjam-packed with wisdom. The perfect podcast for your next run.
Tap into the Ron Markezich Special.
If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Sep 23, 2024 • 1h 2min
"I Want All The Records" | SHELBY HOULIHAN IS BACK: Her Plan To Return To Track In 2025, Mile World Record Attempt In January, Not Wearing Supershoes, What Group She's Joining & More
Shelby Houlihan returns in less than four months.
On January 15 2025 her suspension will be lifted. And she can compete against the world's best once again.
As she starts her buildup to the redemption tour, I wanted to get her back on the podcast to spill the tea on all she's been up to and how she's planning on coming back.
Shelby is a 13xUS National Champion, a 2016 Olympian, and the American Record Holder in the 1500m where she ran that in the 2019 World Championships in Doha where she placed 4th. She is also a World-Record Holder in the Women's 4x1500m. She holds PRs of 1:59.92 (800m), 3:54.99 (1500m), and 14:23.92 in the 5k.
In college, she was the first student at Arizona State University to win a national individual title in the outdoor 1,500. Shelby was a 12-time NCAA Division I All-American, the second most in Arizona State history, and an NCAA Track champion.
In today's conversation, Shelby takes me through her plans to return to track, a potentially world-record attempt as her first race back, what brand/group she's joining, her takes on supershoes and why she's never worn them, and an in-depth look at her training.
You won't want to miss this one.
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If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Sep 21, 2024 • 56min
Professional Decathlete Jack Flood On How To Turn Your Life Around, Praying Big Prayers, His Journey Within Social-Media, Being 6'5/200IQ, & How To Crack The Top 1%
Today on the podcast is the one and only Jack Flood (6'5 btw).
Jack isn't just a jacked, 6'5, 200IQ man. He's also incredibly accomplished in Track & Field.
He was the D3 National Champion in both the Heptathlon and Decathlon. He has placed top 10 at USAs every year since 2019 expect for 2023 because of a no height.
He was 9th at the 2021 US Olympic Trials, and 5th in 2024.
He has a following of over 300k and has worked with brands like Chipotle, Canes, Panda Express, Choq, Mr. Beast and isnow helping others grow their personal brand.
In today's conversation, Jack takes me through his process of creating content on social media, how the (6'5 btw) trend started, how to get the most out of your life, how to stop caring about what other people think about you, and so much more!
Anytime I get Jack on the podcast, I'm always ready to run through a brick wall afterward. You will NOT want to miss this one.
Lace-up your shoes, hit the pavement, and learn some lessons from one of the greats, Jack Flood.
Also - DM me after you listen with any thoughts. I want to hear how this one impacted you!
Tap into the Jack Flood Special.
If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Sep 19, 2024 • 48min
She Never Thought She Would Run Again To Olympic Bronze Medal & British Record: The INCREDIBLE Story Of Georgia Bell
THE GEORGIA BELL SPECIAL
Georgia won Bronze at the 2024 Paris Olympics in the Women's 1500m.
In her 17 races this season across 10 countries, she was absolutely dominant. She became a National Champion, European Silver Medalist, set a British Record, and as stated before, placed third in the Olympics.
Georgia holds PRs of 1:56.28 (800m) & 3:52.61 (1500m).
What makes this season all the more remarkable is that Georgia had fully stepped away from the sport just a few short years ago. Her progression over the past few years is nothing short of amazing and inspiring. I hope you'll take the time to be inspired by GB's INCREDIBLE story!
In this one, we discuss her quitting her job to go all-in on running full-time, what went into this year of growth, her experience at the Olympics, how this year sets her up for future, and so much more.
Tap into the Georgia Bell Special.
If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
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S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Sep 17, 2024 • 58min
Stanford Alum & Pro-Runner Tai Dinger On How To Get The Most Out Of Your Running While Thriving In Life
Today's episode is incredibly insightful & will help you in both your running and life.
I have the privilege of speaking with Tai Dinger again on the podcast.
Tai has run 3:57 in the Mile & 13:23 in the 5k. He was 3rd at the US Road 5k Champs in 2023 and has a few other top-10 finishes on the roads.
Tai holds a BS in Biology and a Masters in Management science and Engineering from Stanford University. He also has a PhD in Health Policy.
He is currently attending Harvard for Law School. I'd be willing to bet this is the wisest guy you'll listen to today.
In today's conversation, Tai takes me through his past year of going all-in on running, what Coach Milt taught him about how you can have everything, but not at once, his studies and what they've taught him, pacing Elise Cranny in her buildup to the Olympics, and so much more!
A lot of wisdom in this one. Perfect for your next run.
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If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com

Sep 15, 2024 • 59min
NCAA Champion & 3:32 1500m Runner Nathan Green On His Upbringing, What It Means To Be A Good Teammate, & What It Takes To Be Great
Back on the podcast is the one and only Nathan Green!
If you're not familiar with Nathan, he was the 2023 NCAA Outdoor 1,500m Champion and the 2023 Pac-12 1,500m Champion. In 2023 he also was All-America First Team (1,500m, Outdoors | Mile and DMR, Indoors).
This year, Nathan placed 5th at the 2024 U.S. Olympic Trials in the 1500m, running a PR of 3:32.2 in the final and becoming the top collegiate.
Back in 2022, Nathan was the U.S. Junior 1,500m Champion!
In today's conversation, Nathan takes me behind the scenes of the 2024 XC UW team, joining the B1G, what makes a good teammate, his upbringing and how it's shaped his pursuit of sport, and so much more!
This conversation was actually world-class and one of my favorite conversations I've recorded in the past few months.
Tap into the Nathan Green Special.
If you enjoy the podcast, please consider following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and giving us a five-star review! I would also appreciate it if you share it with your friend who you think will benefit from it.
If this episode blesses you, please share it with a friend!
S H O W N O T E S
-THE PODCAST ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClLcLIDAqmJBTHeyWJx_wFQ
-My Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therunningeffect/?hl=en
-My Newsletter: https://therunningeffect.substack.com


