

The Retirement and IRA Show
Jim Saulnier, CFP® & Chris Stein, CFP®
What do you get when you combine two knowledgeable CFP® PROFESSIONALS (one also a well-informed COLLEGE FINANCE INSTRUCTOR)? If you mix in relevant financial information and a healthy dose of humor you get the Retirement and IRA Radio Show! JIM SAULNIER, a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional with Jim Saulnier and Associates who specializes in retirement planning for clients across the country, CHRIS STEIN, a Finance Instructor at Colorado State University who is also a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ Professional, offer real-world knowledge on a diverse range of topics including Social Security planning, investing for your retirement, the fundamentals of 401(k) and IRA accounts. Jim and Chris make learning about your retirement both educational and entertaining!
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Oct 18, 2025 • 1h 16min
Spousal Roth, Backdoor Roth, Social Security, Post-Tax Contributions, HSA Strategy: Q&A #2542
Listeners dive into the intricacies of spousal Roth IRA contributions even after retirement. They explore the benefits of switching from a SEP IRA to a solo 401k for backdoor Roth opportunities. Timing for claiming Social Security at 62 comes under scrutiny, especially for those with sufficient pensions. The discussion covers post-tax contributions to IRAs and 401ks, and how HSA withdrawals can be strategically used to maximize Roth conversions. Essential strategies for smarter tax planning are revealed throughout the dialogue.

Oct 15, 2025 • 1h 21min
IRA Rollover Mistakes and Exceptions: EDU #2542
To skip over Jim and Chris chatting about the government shutdown delaying Social Security and Medicare announcements, and Jim’s upcoming travel plans—including concerns about flight delays and his upcoming elk hunt in Utah you can skip ahead to (8:15).
Chris’s SummaryJim and I walk through common IRA rollover mistakes and clarify the once-per-year rollover rule, including exceptions for Roth conversions and employer plan transfers. We explain the differences between direct and indirect rollovers, how constructive receipt is determined, and when a spousal rollover might cause unexpected tax penalties. We also outline when 60-day rollovers can still be useful, especially with maturing MYGAs, and share practical tips to avoid triggering unexpected distributions.
Jim’s “Pithy” SummaryChris and I cover IRA rollover mistakes—especially the ones that crop up with 60‑day rollovers. We’re talking the kind of errors that can cost you taxes, penalties, and your sanity. This all started with some emails about the 60‑day rollover strategy for Roth conversions, but it quickly turned into a full‑blown EDU on how rollovers go sideways—fast.
We explain the difference between a direct and indirect rollover (hint: if you’re frolicking in dollar bills on your living room floor, it’s indirect), why you can’t do more than one IRA‑to‑IRA rollover per 365 days, and how the IRS finally shut down the old rollover shuffle thanks to the poor guy in the Bobrow case—who won one fight and lost the big one in the same ruling.
Then we take it further. Surviving spouses? You’ve got options. But if you’re under 59½ and roll inherited IRA money into your own account too soon, you just triggered the 10% penalty. Only a spouse can do that kind of rollover, by the way. Chris and I get into a whole scenario with a dead husband, a widow, and a girlfriend who didn’t get the memo on common‑law marriage. No joke.
And if you’re sitting on a MYGA in an IRA, you better pay attention when that thing matures. Insurance companies love to auto‑renew on day 31, and we explain how a 60‑day rollover can give you breathing room—if you haven’t already used your one for the year. Our go‑to move with IRA‑based MYGAs? You guessed it: the 60‑day rollover. Just don’t mess it up or you’ll blow your chance at penalty‑free flexibility—and that includes protecting your Minimum Dignity Floor.
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Oct 11, 2025 • 1h 23min
Social Security, HSA Held Annuities, IRA Annuities: Q&A #2541
Jim and Chris discuss a listener PSA on estimating early retirement benefits, followed by questions on Social Security benefit calculations and reductions, HSA held annuities, and IRA annuity pro rata rule application.(14:45) George shares a PSA explaining how to input future earnings on the SSA site to better estimate early retirement benefits.(25:15) A listener asks whether their benefit is funded by the Social Security trust fund and how to estimate their benefit if the trust fund becomes depleted.(37:30) The guys respond to a question about a survivor benefit reduction due to a government pension and whether this reflects an error based on the GPO elimination.(42:00) Jim and Chris weigh-in on the pros and cons of HSA held annuities to generate secure income.(55:00) A listener wants to know how the pro rata rule applies when holding both an annuity inside an IRA and in a separate Roth IRA.
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Oct 8, 2025 • 1h 13min
Military Retirement Planning: EDU #2541
Chris’s Summary:Jim and I are joined by Rear Admiral Brian Luther to discuss veterans benefits and military retirement planning. We explore how Navy Mutual supports service members, examine the survivor benefit plan, and talk about the role of annuities in managing longevity risk. Rear Admiral Luther also shares insights on TRICARE, VA health care, and the importance of financial literacy throughout a military career.
Jim’s “Pithy” Summary:Chris (“Cowboy”) and I (“Bugs”) are thrilled to welcome Rear Admiral Brian Luther—better known on this episode as “Lex”—to discuss veterans benefits, military retirement planning, and the mission of Navy Mutual. Lex brings an incredible background to the conversation: he served as a naval aviator, commanded the George H.W. Bush on its maiden deployment, and ultimately became the budget officer of the entire U.S. Navy. Now, as CEO of Navy Mutual, he’s focused on protecting military families and promoting financial literacy—something that became personal to him after being sold a lousy product early in his career. That bad experience stuck with him, and it shows in how Navy Mutual approaches everything.
This episode covers a lot. We talk about how Navy Mutual came to be, the long-standing military tradition behind it, and how it provides life insurance and annuities without the exclusions and fees often found in commercial products. Lex gives a clear rundown of the Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP), how remarriage impacts SBP eligibility, and why spousal protection is so important. He also introduces their “RETIRE” acronym—risk, education, taxes, investment, retirement, and estate planning—and how those areas guide service members through their financial journey.
We explore how military retirees can use VA health care and how that fits—or doesn’t—with Medicare, TRICARE, and travel needs. Lex explains how Navy Mutual separates education from sales, offers no-commission policy reviews, and discloses actual embedded interest rates in their annuities—something almost no one else does. He also shares how annuities can be used as a risk-transfer tool to manage longevity and support retirement dignity, especially when paired with secure income sources like pensions and Social Security.
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Oct 4, 2025 • 1h 20min
Social Security, Roth Conversions, RMD Calculations: Q&A #2540
Jim and Chris discuss listener questions on Social Security spousal benefits, a listener PSA on IRMAA repayment silence, IRMAA reduction eligibility and planning considerations, and a PSA on how 60-day rollover Roth conversions affect year-end RMD calculations.(7:45) A listener points out a possible error from a recent episode and looks for clarification whether delaying benefits past full retirement age increases spousal benefits.(19:15) George shares a PSA about his ongoing wait for clarity regarding IRMAA repayment adjustments from 2021 and 2022.(28:30) Jim and Chris respond to a listener wondering whether their limited consulting income and work stoppage qualify for IRMAA relief, and what documentation would be needed. The listener also seeks feedback on using a late-year Roth conversion to create a flexible cash flow account for future planning.(1:01:00) The guys share a PSA-ish “question” on the nuanced issue around year-end Roth conversions and RMD calculations—specifically, whether funds moved via a 60-day rollover for conversion purposes need to be added back into the December 31 IRA balance when determining required minimum distributions.
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Oct 1, 2025 • 1h 10min
Delay Period Strategy: EDU #2540
Dive into a listener's intriguing delay period strategy, blending laddered CDs, equity ETFs, and delayed Social Security. Discover the importance of spending liquidity and how market conditions could impact planned withdrawals. The hosts discuss the dangers of reliance on market growth and why continuous adjustments are crucial. They also highlight the crossover risk with Social Security and advocate for regular monitoring of Roth conversions. A solid plan can falter without flexibility, especially in unpredictable markets!

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Sep 27, 2025 • 1h 48min
Social Security, 60-Day Rollover, Inherited IRA, and Deferred Income Annuity: Q&A #2539
Listeners dive into the complexities of Social Security, exploring how SSDI can transition to retirement benefits and the effects of family maximums on multiple child benefits. Key points include the intricacies of 60-day rollovers, RMD calculations for inherited IRAs, and strategies for using deferred income annuities to address future income needs. The hosts also discuss potential alternatives and flexibility in annuity structures, weighing current rates against future possibilities. It's a treasure trove of insights for navigating retirement finances!

Sep 24, 2025 • 1h 19min
Tax Planning Strategies: EDU #2539
This week, with Jim away at a conference, Chris is joined by Jake for an EDU episode that takes the shape of a Q&A, focusing on tax planning strategies. The guys cover a series of emails that highlight how different tax rules and opportunities intersect with retirement planning, income management, and financial decisions.
(10:30), the first question explores how the new OBBB changes—particularly the $40,000 SALT deduction and $6,000 senior deduction—are affecting Roth conversion strategies. Chris and Jake break down who might benefit from larger conversions, who may want to scale back, and how the extension of lower tax brackets plays into long-term planning.
(26:45), a listener with high health care costs asks what qualifies for deduction, how the 7.5% AGI threshold works, and whether items like chiropractor visits and insurance premiums count. The guys walk through the rules, the limits, and which expenses can make a difference.
(39:00), the third question looks at the backdoor Roth. A “long-lost” 401(k) rolled into an IRA raises concerns about the pro rata rule and whether it threatens the clean execution of annual conversions. The guys explain how to handle the rollover and keep the strategy on track.
(49:45), tax-loss harvesting and the wash sale rule take center stage. The listener wants to know how dividend reinvestments across different accounts might complicate reporting and whether timing strategies can keep things clean. Chris and Jake lay out how the rule works and what to watch for.
(1:02:45), a self-employed listener asks if funding a solo 401(k) before converting to Roth could save self-employment tax. The guys explain the mechanics, the limits on employer contributions, and the modest but real savings this tactic may offer.
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Sep 20, 2025 • 1h 15min
IRMAA, Widow Status, Roth Conversions, Annuity RMDs, and Rollovers: Q&A #2538
Jim and Chris discuss listener questions on IRMAA reductions and Roth-conversion effects, widow filing status and IRMAA, in-kind stock Roth conversions and RMD transfers, annuity RMD interactions, and 60-day rollover mail timing.
(7:45) George asks whether an approved SSA Form 44 that reduced 2025 IRMAA will also govern next year, how a large 2026 Roth conversion will be trued up and affect future IRMAA brackets, and whether that conversion will cause higher IRMAA in multiple subsequent years.
(18:45) A listener wonders if a recently widowed spouse’s IRMAA in 2026 will reflect single status or remain based on the 2024 joint tax return.
(24:45) The guys ask whether in-kind stock Roth conversions change the stock’s tax basis inside a Roth and whether an in-kind RMD transfer to a brokerage establishes a stepped-up basis.
(49:45) Jim and Chris consider a hypothetical where an IRA annuity’s annual payout might be less than the RMD and what happens if the RMD exceeds the annuity payment.
(1:02:15) One listener argues that claiming a mailed check took longer than 60 days to arrive is implausible because USPS optical scans and Informed Delivery images could let the IRS verify delivery dates.
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Sep 17, 2025 • 1h 11min
Discussing An Article On Retirement Planning: EDU #2538
If you would like to skip over Chris and Jim chatting about a recent Colorado hail storm and Jim’s garden while he’s in Ohio, please skip to the 7:45 mark.
Article discussed in today’s show: https://www.kiplinger.com/retirement/retirement-planning/the-me-first-rule-of-retirement-spending
Chris’s Summary
I chat with Jim about a recent article regarding retirement planning and compare how the article approaches a number of concepts in a similar way to the way that we look at retirement planning here at the firm.
Jim’s “Pithy Summary”
Chris and I chat about a Kiplinger article that was sent over by a couple of our frequent podcast listeners to get our thoughts. I walk through some of the background on our unique approach to retirement planning including concepts like the Minimum Dignity Floor (MDF) and covering expenses with secure income rather than relying on a safe withdrawal style of approach. We weigh the seesaw between the younger you and the older you when it comes to spending in your youth versus saving in retirement.
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