

The Reasoning Show
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The Reasoning Show AI moves fast. Thinking clearly matters more.The Reasoning Show cuts through the hype to explore how the smartest people in enterprise AI actually make decisions — the strategy, the tradeoffs, and the hard lessons no press release mentions.Every week, hosts Aaron Delp and Brian Gracely sit down with the founders building the tools, investors funding the shift, and operators running AI in the real world. Not hype. Not panic. Just clear-headed conversations with people who have to make actual decisions.Because the AI revolution isn't just happening. It's being reasoned through. New shows every Wednesday and Sunday. Topics: Enterprise AI strategy · LLMs in production · AI leadership · Agentic AI · Digital Sovereignty · Machine Learning · AI startups · Cloud Computing
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Feb 12, 2016 • 38min
The Cloudcast #238 - Challenges in Operations, Containers and Microservices
Brian talks with Rob Hirschfeld (@zehicle, Founder/CEO of RackN)
about the evolution of OpenStack, Containers, his company RackN and Digital Rebar, and how Microservices and DevOps go hand-in-hand.
Show Links:
This show sponsored by Intel Cloud For All
The Cloudcast is an O'Reilly Media Partner, Request a free eBook or use code PCBW for a discount on all books
RackN Homepage
Digital Rebar Homepage (GitHub)
Rob’s Blog
How We Changed Digital Rebar’s Architecture, But Not Its Code, in Six Easy Steps
Topic 1 - It’s been a long time since you were last on the show (Eps.16), back when you were at Dell in 2011. A lot has changed since then. What have you been up to?
Topic 2 - You been heavily involved in OpenStack since the earliest days, serving in board roles, contributing role, working on architectures. You’ve also been critical of several areas around operations. What’s the state of OpenStack from your perspective?
Topic 3 - Let’s talk about Digital Rebar and the challenges involved in using resources in different environments - bare metal, containers, VMs, various clouds.
Topic 4 - You recently wrote a great article in The New Stack about how you migrated Digital Rebar to a microservices architecture. Give us the lessons learned in that migration process.
Topic 5 - Given all the tools and frameworks and platforms available to developers and operations today, why is it so important to align application architectures (microservices) with modularity of the tools and frameworks? Can monoliths and microservices exist across DevOps
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Feb 1, 2016 • 35min
The Cloudcast #237 - Cloud Native SDN
Brian talks with Chris Marino (@chris_marino, Founder/CEO of Pani Networks) about the his new startup, the evolution of networking for Cloud Native applications, and the opportunities to change networking as application models radically change.
Show Notes:
Krispy Kreme Challenge Donations - https://www.crowdrise.com/thecloudcastkrispykr/fundraiser/briangracely
Pani Networks Homepage - http://www.paninetworks.com/
Romana Networking (Overview) - http://romana.io/
Romana Slack Channel - romana.slack.com
Topic 1 - We’ve known each other for a while, but give our audience some details about your background and what you’re building with Pani.
Topic 2 - You highlight that there are 4 types (use-cases) of SDN in the market today: Enterprise, Carrier (NFV), SD-WAN and now Cloud Native. Let’s talk briefly about each one.
Topic 3 - Let’s talk about the basics of how the Romana Project works - addressing, tenants, IPAM, service discovery
Topic 4 - There’s an interesting trend happening where more intelligence and awareness is getting pushed up into higher-level systems like OpenStack, Kubernetes, etc. - how does this align to an application team vs. an operations team?
Topic 5 - How can people learn more about Pani and Romana, and start to play with the technology?
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Jan 14, 2016 • 35min
The Cloudcast #236 - Aligning App Performance to Business Success
Brian talks with James Urquhart (@jamesurquhart, Senior Vice President of Performance Analytics @SOASTA) about the evolution of the digital economy, performance testing applications, understanding business impact of performance, and how companies are evolving in this new economy.
Show Notes:
Krispy Kreme Challenge Donations - https://www.crowdrise.com/thecloudcastkrispykr/fundraiser/briangracely
SOASTA Homepage - http://www.soasta.com/
Topic 1 - Welcome back to the show, it’s been a little while. Tell us what you’re doing these days.
Topic 2 - We now live in a (mostly) digital world, where applications are the face or experience of many businesses. Where does SOASTA fit into this new world?
Topic 3 - Last summer, I was at VelocityConf and saw this massive display (for SOASTA) and it looked like the control center in movies for a Space Shuttle launch. Turns out it was the launch of the mPulse platform. It was very business centric, which was unique and unusual for a highly technical conference.
Topic 4 - Lots of talk about microservices and distributed applications. Also, lots of talk about how this becomes orders of magnitude more complex. How are application teams explaining this to their businesses, and how does SOASTA help them manage this?
Topic 5 - Mobile devices are everything these days, and they have very different usage/access patterns. From a Performance/Analysis perspective, what are some of the most important things companies need to think about?
Topic 6 - We’re starting to see more and more traditionally “non-technical” companies that will have massive application challenges in the future (e.g. connected vehicles). What’s your advice to them beyond just “be sure you’re testing early and often”?FEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Jan 7, 2016 • 29min
The Cloudcast #235 - Does Everyone Need Google's Infrastructure?
Brian talks with Alex Polvi (@polvi, Founder/CEO of @CoreOSLinux) about how startups measure innovation, the evolution of both Tectonic solution and CoreOS projects, the evolution of Kubernetes and how many companies are building digital presences (web/mobile).
This show sponsored by Intel Cloud For All
Show Links:
Krispy Kreme Challenge Donations
Topic 1 - Let's start with product updates. It's been about six months since we talked with Redbeard (Brian Harrington) about CoreOS and security at OSCON. What's new with CoreOS (Tectonic, Kubernetes 1.0, Clair, etc.)
Topic 2 - Kubernetes get most of the attention, but let's talk about "Clair" since it aligns to CoreOS's goal of securing the Internet. What is it and how does it work?
Topic 3 - Tectonic was announced as GA in December. How has the shift from project/product based offerings to more solution-centric offerings changed your interaction with the market?
Topic 4 - As best I can tell, your customers seem to be digital-centric companies (Samsung, Jive Software, etc.) with customer-facing applications. Is that the ideal customer profile for where CoreOS is today?
Topic 5 - The other day you sent a tweet that mentioned how many releases that CoreOS had done in 2015. And I've seen about 6-10 more companies send a similar tweet. First time I've seen the release metric be the end-of-year measurement at a company level. Why is that happening now?
Topic 6 - What's the sentiment in Silicon Valley these days about startups? Interest rates moved up a little bit, many unicorns ($1B valuations) were created in 2014-2015. Are the investors saying anything to startups in early 2016 that's different than 2014 or 2015? FEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Dec 31, 2015 • 1h 10min
The Cloudcast #234 - 2015 WrapUp + 2016 Predictions
Aaron and Brian do their annual 2015 WrapUp show. They look at the most interesting shows, trends and topics from 2015, as well as making predictions for 2016.
Show Notes:
Krispy Kreme Challenge Donations
Topic 1 - Is Public Cloud making any money?
Topic 2 - Is Open Source Software making any money
Topic 3 - Everything is becoming an integrated solution.
Topic 4 - Bi-Modal vs. Tri-Modal IT
Topic 5 - The continued rise of SaaS applications (and who manages them)
Topic 6 - The continued rise of non-vendor companies recruiting developers
Show Stats and Interesting Facts
60 Shows
Official Podcast at Cloud Foundry Summit, MesosCon, LinuxCon, DockerCon, VelocityConf, OSCON
Went over $5B in VC + M&A Funding for Guests
Most Popular Show(s) of 2015:
Eps.200 (Future of Connected Cloud; Christian Reilly)
Eps.199 (Docker Security; Diogo & Nathan)
Eps.208 (DevOps; Nathan Harvey)
Aaron’s 2015 Predictions - From 2014 show
Container ecosystem is beginning to mature
Docker needs to go through Trough of Disillusionment
Skill Sets Changing - Blogging will become a lost art
GitHub or “GetOut” - people need to learn GitHub - see 30 Days of Commitmas (GitHub learning)
Existence of Bi-Modal IT - There is no migration path between the two.
“Infrastructure as a Code” replaces “Software-Defined” terminology
Infrastructure jobs will become the operations portion of DevOps (automate everything)
Brian’s 2015 Predictions - From 2014 show
Containers, Containers, Containers - competition for Docker in containers (VMware, CoreOS, etc.)? Moved from Containers to Systems.
Containers/Docker were mentioned everywhere (AWS, Tutum, Microsoft, DigitalOcean)
VMware pushes that “containers need VMs”
AWS is finally starting to understand the Enterprise; bundling/integrating services
Nobody values Cloud Management software
How do the VCs justify all this investment in companies that drive open-source projects?
What happens to all the SaaS tools platforms on AWS, can they survive economically?
Our Grades on Various Topics/Companies/Themes
OpenStack
AWS
Azure
Google
Cisco
Other Public Clouds
Private Cloud or Hybrid Cloud
VMware
Docker
Cloud Foundry
Open Source centric companies (CoreOS, Hashicorp, Mesosphere)
Cluster-Management and Schedulers (Kubernetes, Mesos, Swarm)
SaaS Applications
Brian’s 2016 Prediction Notes:
We’ll continue to see big bets (legacy vendors) and big failures
Very curious to watch the open-source VMware-replacements (Hashicorp, CoreOS, Docker, etc.) monetize their business
We’ll begin to hear about some IoT success stories
Aaron’s 2016 Prediction Notes:
Industry Predictions:
Docker Trough of DiFEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Dec 23, 2015 • 31min
The Cloudcast #233 - NATS - Cloud Native Infrastructure
Aaron and Brian talk with Larry McQueary - (@McQueary; Product Manager at Apcera for NATS.io Cloud Native Infrastructure) about messaging platforms for microservices and distributed applications, how they differ from Enterprise Service Bus and how IoT applications have new requirements on the backend systems.
Show Notes:
- How NATS, a REST Alternative, Provides Messaging for Distributed Systems
http://thenewstack.io/nats-rest-alternative-provides-messaging-distributed-systems/
Topic 1 - People know Apcera from previous shows and discussions about Platforms. NATS is part of Apcera's platform, but it's also an independent project. Help us understand how the two are connected and separate?
Topic 2 - Let's talk about the basics of NATS? What's the difference between a message-bus and an enterprise-service-bus (or caching layers)?
Topic 3 - What types of applications use NATS and what are some of the characteristics (or architecture) of NATS that make it so fast and scalable?
Topic 4- Everybody is talking about mobile and IoT these days. We know about phones and sensors, but what do the back-end systems look like and how does this interact with NATS?
Topic 5 - How would someone deploy NATS? It is something that is best in a private cloud environment because of the performance requirements, or could it also run in multi-tenant, shared public cloud environments?
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Dec 16, 2015 • 13min
The Cloudcast #232 - Docker Security Part Deux
Aaron talks to Cloudcast alum Diogo Monica and Nathan McCauley (@diogomonica and @nathanmccauley; Security Leads @Docker) about the focus on security at DeckerConEU, hardware signing of containers, the evolution and updates to Docker Notary and Trusted Registry, Project Nautilus and the security scanning of containers, and secret data in Docker Control Plane
Show Links:
Thank you to Docker for having us as a media sponsor at Dockercon EU
This show sponsored by Intel Cloud For All
Docker Blog
The Cloudcast #199 - Docker Security
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Dec 15, 2015 • 10min
The Cloudcast #230 - The Docker Ecosystem
Aaron talks to Nick Stinemates (@nickstinemates, VP Biz Dev @Docker) about Nick's life before business development, building a vibrant community around Docker, and how partners can co-exist within this new ecosystem.
Show Links:
Thank you to Docker for having us as a media sponsor at Dockercon EU
This show sponsored by Intel Cloud For All
Docker Blog
Topic 1 - You have a super interesting background. You’ve gone from the techie world to the dark side. Tell us about your journey to where you are today. What’s it like to be the “old guys around Docker” having been here over 2 years.
Topic 2 - The big announcement today was on Docker Universal Control Plane. It would appear with Trusted Registry Docker has created a place to store containers and then with Universal Control Plane a place to run containers. Is this a correct assessment? How do you see the next 12 months playing out for Docker customers? How does Tutum fit into this?
Topic 3 - What are the challenges you hear about most today as you work on technical alliances? Are you the one that got Ben on every stage at every keynote last year?
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Dec 15, 2015 • 10min
The Cloudcast #231 - Docker & Tutum Cloud
Aaron talks to Tutum Cloud's Borja Burgos (@borja_burgos) and Fernando Mayo (@FernandoMayo) about Docker's recent acquisition of Tutum Cloud, operational benefits of Tutum Cloud, future plans for Tutum, and how it will fit into the Docker ecosystem.
Show Links:
Thank you to Docker for having us as a media sponsor at Dockercon EU
This show sponsored by Intel Cloud For All
Docker Blog
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Dec 9, 2015 • 14min
The Cloudcast #229 - Weaveworks and New Stack Architectures
Aaron talks to Alexis Richardson (@monadic, Co-founder and CEO @Weaveworks) about new container based architecture stacks and models, the state of Docker today and how to decipher this ever changing ecosystem
Show Links:
Thank you to Docker for having us as a media sponsor at Dockercon EU
This show sponsored by Intel Cloud For All
Weaveworks
Weaveworks Github
The Post-Amazon Challenge and the New Stack Model
How To Detect, Map and Monitor Docker Containers with Weave Scope from Weaveworks
Topic 1 - Alexis, give us some background on yourself (RabbitMQ) as well as Weaveworks.
Topic 2 - What is your view of the Docker ecosystem today?
Topic 3 - Tell us about the state of networking in Docker today. This space is evolving quickly and has become a very hot market. What problems are you trying to solve that differentiates you from the others including SocketPlane (which has been absorbed into Docker). Isn’t the whole idea behind Weave is how to maintain your application and it’s networking without doing “unnatural acts” to get containers and networking to work together. How do the Weave products fit into this? Give us the decoder ring… (more than Weave Net)
Topic 4 - How do CoreOS or Kubernetes figure into all of this?
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