

The Reasoning Show
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The Reasoning Show AI moves fast. Thinking clearly matters more.The Reasoning Show cuts through the hype to explore how the smartest people in enterprise AI actually make decisions — the strategy, the tradeoffs, and the hard lessons no press release mentions.Every week, hosts Aaron Delp and Brian Gracely sit down with the founders building the tools, investors funding the shift, and operators running AI in the real world. Not hype. Not panic. Just clear-headed conversations with people who have to make actual decisions.Because the AI revolution isn't just happening. It's being reasoned through. New shows every Wednesday and Sunday. Topics: Enterprise AI strategy · LLMs in production · AI leadership · Agentic AI · Digital Sovereignty · Machine Learning · AI startups · Cloud Computing
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Mar 29, 2018 • 31min
The Cloudcast #340 - Adding AI into Software Platforms
Brian talks with Srinivas Krishnamurti (@skrishna09; Founder/CEO of Zugata) about the evolution of workplace management, how companies should think about problems that might require AI, the level of complexity needed to add AI to existing platforms, and how to manage the Human-to-AI interactions in software. Show Links:Zugata HomepageZugata on The Cloudcast (Eps. 221)Zugata Insights[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to back the show. Remind people about Zugata and give us some updates on Self-Improvement as a Service. Topic 2 - Zugata recently launched “Zugata Insights”Improve Company CultureEliminate Gender BiasBetter Understand the Skills & Attributes of Top PerformersTopic 3 - Zugata is a SaaS-based platform. How do you add AI-centric services to a SaaS platform?Topic 4 - What is the state of available technology to add AI capabilities (e.g. existing open source tools, or cloud-based services) vs. having to hire that skill vs. retraining in-house developers?Topic 5 - Your tools directly interact with human-centric issues. How much adaptation has to happen to steer AI around human-centric decisions vs. non-human-centric decisions?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCastFEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Mar 22, 2018 • 33min
The Cloudcast #339 - Understanding Cryptocurrencies & Markets
Aaron talks with Jesse Proudman (@jesseproudman; Founder of @StrixLeviathan) about entrepreneurship, his new company Strix Leviathan, the basics of cryptocurrencies and markets, how these markets are evolving and what's next for their platform.Show Links:Jesse’s been around for awhile and a Cloudcast alum, link to Cloudcast #116Strix Leviathan WebsiteStrix Leviathan Techcrunch Article$1.6M Funding Round[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Jesse, catch everyone up on the last few years. You had a good exit at BlueBox and then went on to a DE (Distinguished Engineer) position at IBM.Topic 2 - Tell us about your journey to founding Strix Leviathan and this interesting intersection of AI and cryptocurrency. Was this a hobby that turned into a passion which turned into your next thing?Topic 2a (Lightning Round) - Some cryptocurrency basicsWhat is a cryptocurrency? What does it use as it’s basis of value?How do the cryptocurrency markets work? What are the basic elements someone needs to understand?Cryptocurrencies have been crazy volatile for the last few years. Is it good to have currency be so volatile? Topic 3 - Cryptocurrency is in the early days. What are some of the struggles today you see and the challenges folks entering this market are facing. For instance in a TechCrunch article you mention API issues with trading as an example of the infancy of the platforms. What do you think happens to the market in the both the short and long term?Topic 4 - What problem is Strix Leviathan ultimately trying to solve for?Topic 5 - It appears the engine today is two parts: a cryptocurrency tracker (data ingestion) and a trading engine. Correct? Where does the AI part fit into all of that? Is it doing the analysis and making recommendations on trades or does it actually FEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Mar 15, 2018 • 29min
The Cloudcast #338 - Governance and DevSecOps
Brian talks with Josh Stella (@joshstella, CEO of @FugueHQ) about what DevSecOps means, how companies manage the tension between Developer agility and Operations stability, how to codify Governance via code, and early steps to success in DevOps culture. Show Links:Fugue HomepageJosh Stella, Infrastructure as Code (on theCUBE)Infrastructure Governance at the Speed of DevOps[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and why you decided to focus on DevOps, Security, Compliance and Governance.Topic 2 - DevOps is culturally hard. Moving to the cloud is technically hard (move data, refactor apps, etc.). How do you guide people about what areas of those changes to tackle first, or put more focus on?Topic 3 - DevOps is two opposing motivations trying to work in harmony. How does “Sec” fit in to create this DevSecOps concept?Topic 4 - In the past, Governance and Compliance were primarily Security functions, and somewhat periodic “validation” functions. Now the technology allows them to potentially be constant guardrails and checks. What’s the state of Governance and Compliance?Topic 5 - What guidance do you gives customers that ask how to get started in DevOps, Security, Compliance and Governance?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCastFEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Mar 8, 2018 • 30min
The Cloudcast #337 - Cutivating IoT From Farm to Cloud
Brian talks with Steve Ridder (@saridder, CEO @teralytic) and Dan Casson (VP Engineering, @teralytic) about #AgTech, nanofabrication, engaging with large, complex ecosystems, building modern IoT platforms, and how data is helping to advance one of the oldest industries in the world.Show Links:Teralytic HomepageTeralytic BlogTeralytic Sensors Help Farmers Manage Their Fertilizing[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and how people from NYC and Silicon Valley know more about soli than farmers with their boots in the dirt? Topic 2 - Let’s talk about soil, NPK (Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium) levels and how frequently the “playing field” in farming is changing? What are the big challenges in managing soil? How significant are soil differences around the world? Topic 3 - Before we get to the technology (in the sensor and the cloud), let’s talk about the business side of IoT sensors. You have to have mass production (edge devices), ridiculously simple sensor installations, run wireless infrastructure (?), run a cloud SaaS infrastructure (or just sell the data to brokers?) and do farmers have IT departments to translate all this techie stuff?Topic 4 - Let’s talk about the technology in the IoT edge sensors. They have to be precise, inexpensive, and future proof? How much is industrial engineering vs. computer science?Topic 5 - Let’s talk about the technology in the analytics cloud? These devices only transmit every 15mins. What does a cloud stack look like? Topic 6 - Any advice for techies, or industry experts, to find the people to collaborate with in these vertical solutions? Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCastFEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Mar 1, 2018 • 28min
The Cloudcast #336 - The Evolving Role of Cloud Communities
Brian talks with Amy Lewis (@commsninja, Director Influence Marketing @VMware, Co-Host @Siftspod podcast) about the change dynamics of tech communities, how people self-select into new communities (or channels), the changing rules of IT buying, whether techies needs some business skills, and tips/tricks for mentoring the next generation. Show Links:Beyond Cat6, Finding Mentors, Feeding Relationships, Furthering Your Career[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Introduction of Amy, what’s new, blah, blah, blah...Topic 2 - The world has become a fragmented place; people find their safe “communities”. We can sort of do that in tech, but not as much because people change jobs more now. What’s your State of the Union for tech communities these days? Topic 3 - Are you seeing the interactions with communities change (good or bad) as the rules within tech change - open source, public cloud, work in the office, etc..?Topic 4 - We talked for a while, to technical communities, about “moving up the stack”, where the stack was all technology. Do you think we should be talking more about “moving across the cubicles” from technical awareness to business awareness?Topic 5 - As you’ve moved around and upwards, you’re now mentoring people within the industry. Any success stories to share, or tips & tricks that might relate well to a newer generation, or just someone making a new change?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCastFEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Feb 22, 2018 • 25min
The Cloudcast #335 - Managing Waste in the Cloud
Brian talks with Andy Richman (Product Manager @ParkMyCloud) about which groups are responsible for cloud costs, how expectations and behaviors are changing as applications move to the cloud (Finance vs. DevOps), do we need DevFinOps, the technology that's making it easier to reduce costs, and tips for driving better cost management.Show Links:The Growing Size of Cloud Waste (ParkMyCloud Survey)[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Introduction of AndyTopic 2 - This survey was focused on “waste” in a public cloud environment. Public cloud was supposed to be less expensive and more agile. Are you seeing people having to reset expectations?Topic 3 - There seem to be two phases of managing costs in the cloud. One is focused buying the right instances at the right time. The other is focused on more day-to-day operations. Are you seeing this sort of separation of functions, and is one a finance function and other a DevOps function?Topic 4 - Let’s get back to “waste”. We went down this road with virtualization many years ago - just turn off what you don’t use. It was the “turning it back on” that actually scared people. What are you learning about more intelligent ways to manage the “turning off/on” process?Topic 5 - AWS has started making more of their services “Ops-less” (sort of), like Lambda, and now Aurora, where you don’t have to think about the infrastructure planning as much. Do you find that people ask why more of the cloud isn’t like this, or they understand that not all workloads run (as before) in these environments? Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCastFEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Feb 15, 2018 • 34min
The Cloudcast #334 - The Future of Edge Computing
Brian talks with Derek Collison (@derekcollison, Founder and CEO at Synadia Communications) about the future of edge computing, the impact of AI/ML on edge systems, and how Telcos and open source communities will evolve with edge computing opportunities.Show Links:NATS - Open Source messagingNATS - A new nervous system for distributed cloud platformsDerek Collison on theCUBEEverybody’s in the Edge Game (Data Center Knowledge podcast)How Edge Computing is changing the network[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. We’ve spoken with you many times over the years, but first time on the podcast. Your background is very well documented, so maybe give us a little glimpse into your latest company - Synadia Communications. Topic 2 - (Public) Cloud Computing has grown in lock-step with the growth of the smartphone (since 2007), creating a specific pattern of application/communication and data collection. What are the forces that are driving all the attention around the Edge Computing evolution (e.g. sensors, smart cars, peer-to-peer patterns, etc.)?Topic 3 - What do the economics of Edge Computing look like today? Where are the big bottlenecks, or areas for big disruption? Does it vary widely depending on the application (e.g. sensor data vs. streaming vs. telemetry) , or geography (e.g. dense cities, transportation networks, rural areas, etc.)Topic 4 - You’ve talked about the Google Brain project for a long time. We’ve seen growth around centralized AI/ML for the last 5-7 years. Do you expect a different mode of AI/ML that has to emerge because Edge Computing patterns will be significantly different than centralized models, or do they need small adaptations? Topic 5 - You’ve need heavily involved with messaging technologies over the years, from TIBCO to NATS. Can you share some insight into how messaging (or asyFEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Feb 8, 2018 • 32min
The Cloudcast #333 - Infrastructure 3.0 for AI and ML
Aaron and Brian talk with Lenny Pruss (@lennypruss, Partner at Amplify Partners) about the evolution of application and infrastructure architectures, how AI/ML are radically changing how applications are designed, the new inputs to application systems, and how VCs are investing in companies that can augment new cloud services.Show Links:Lenny Pruss @ Amplify PartnersInfrastructure 3.0: Building blocks for the AI revolutionSoftware 2.0Infrastructure 2.0CNCF Cloud-Native LandscapeGoogle AutoMLAWS & Microsoft announce “Gluon”AWS DeepLens[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background and how you eventually got into the VC side of the business. Topic 1a - Infrastructure and applications evolve in 'lock-step', so where are we today in terms of this evolution and where are we going?"Topic 2 - You mention this concept of “connectivity vs. cognition” is what makes ML/AI radically different from software of previous generations. Let’s discuss what that means.Topic 3 - “The result is an application that is “smart,” but exceptionally data-intensive and computationally expensive”. What are the problems this creates on today’s infrastructure?Topic 4 - “For ML/AI to reach its full potential, it must graduate from the academic discipline it is today into an engineering one. What that means in practice is that there needs to be new abstractions, interfaces, systems, and tooling to make developing and deploying intelligent applications easy for developers.” - Give us some of the first steps that will make this happen.Topic 5 - As a VC, you’re in the business FEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Feb 2, 2018 • 42min
The Cloudcast #332 - A Cloud Perspective from Israel
Brian talks with Ariel Munafo (@ArielMunafo, TotusCloud) and Amit Dunsky (@amit_dunsky, high-T Cloud Computing), co-hosts of the CloudTalk Podcast about the Cloud Computing market in Israel. This is a co-branded show and will also be published on CloudTalk podcast channel. Show Links:CloudTalk Podcast (in Hebrew)TotusCloudhigh-T Cloud Computing[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us about your background in Cloud Computing and what drove you to create your podcast?Topic 2 - Let's talk about the differences in cloud cultures between the US vs Israel, in terms of venture-capital, adoption, support, innovation, etc.Topic 3 - Let's discuss the regulatory issues affecting cloud adoption in each country. Topic 4 - You both do some work with Israeli government agencies, what about cloud adoption by the government offices and agencies?Topic 5 - Let’s also discuss local tech conferences as an index to how much the cloud is presence and how it indicates the cloud vendors' plans ahead.Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCastFEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow

Jan 25, 2018 • 39min
The Cloudcast #331 - Has SRE replaced DevOps?
Aaron and Brian talk with Rob Hirschfeld (@zehicle, CEO @rackngo; Kubernetes Cluster Ops Co-Chair) about the consistency, continuum and confusion between the concepts of DevOps and Site Reliability Engineering (SRE). Show Links:Google SRE BookDevOps vs. SREDevOps vs. SRE (Rob on Datanauts)Love DevOps? Wait until you meet SRE?Open Source PXE"L8istSh9y" - Rob's Edge & Automation Podcast[PODCAST] @PodCTL - Containers | Kubernetes - RSS Feed, iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn and all your favorite podcast players[A CLOUD GURU] Get The Cloudcast Alexa Skill[A CLOUD GURU] A Cloud Guru Membership - Start your free trial. Unlimited access to the best cloud training and new series to keep you up-to-date on all things AWS.[A CLOUD GURU] FREE access to AWS Certification Exam Prep Guide - At A Cloud Guru, the #1 question received from students is "I want to pass the AWS cert exam, so where do I start?" This course is your answer.[FREE] eBook from O'ReillyShow NotesTopic 1 - What is the State of DevOps today? On one hand, there’s Gene Kim’s DevOps Reports (all is great), on another hand is DevOps Days which has become about Empathy, and somewhere in between are companies struggling with all of this silo-busting and automation and constant change. So where are we?Topic 2 - The DevOps community seemed to want to reject all sort of labels and titles (DevOps engineer, DevOps certified, etc.) and how there is this “SRE” (Site Reliability Engineering) concept. Is this just a new name for DevOps?Topic 3 - Like NetFlix had microservices, so everybody needed microservices - Google has SRE, so now everyone needs SRE? How does SRE fit into a non-Google company? Topic 4 - Many Infra/Ops-centric people have been trying to learn automation and some basic programming (e.g. Python, Powershell/Scripting). SREs are often described as programmers that live in the Ops world. Can these current Infra/Ops people evolve to SRE?Topic 5 - Do you find that DevOps or SRE apply more (or less) to using certain types of technologies vs. other technologies?Feedback?Email: show at thecloudcast dot netTwitter: @thecloudcastnet and @ServerlessCastFEEDBACK?Email: show @ reasoning dot showBluesky: @reasoningshow.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @ReasoningShowInstagram: @reasoningshowTikTok: @reasoningshow


