

Get Creative with Pace Morby
Pace Morby
Discover the insider secrets of real estate investing and unlock your path to financial freedom with the Get Creative Podcast with Pace Morby. Join Pace and industry experts as they share invaluable tips, creative finance strategies, and success stories to help you thrive in the competitive world of real estate investing. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or just starting out, our podcast provides actionable insights to accelerate your journey towards wealth and independence. Tune in now and start building your empire today!
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Mar 24, 2026 • 42min
How to Save a Failed Flip with a Wrap Mortgage | Subject To, DSCR Loans & Creative Finance with Joe Garcia
What do you do when a fix-and-flip deal won’t sell, private money is coming due, and the market shifts against you?
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Kyle Karges sits down with Joe Garcia, a Houston-based real estate investor, broker, and transaction coordinator, to unpack a creative finance strategy that helped turn a struggling flip into a solution.
Joe shares how he transitioned from hands-on house flipping into transaction coordination and creative real estate strategies after joining the Subto and Top Tier TC communities. He also breaks down a real-world Houston deal that started as a wholesale lead, became a flip funded with private money, ran into market headwinds, and was ultimately salvaged using a DSCR loan and wrap mortgage.
📲 Connect with Joe
Instagram | Facebook
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
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➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
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Mar 17, 2026 • 43min
How to Buy Commercial Real Estate with 1031 Exchange, Seller Financing & Private Money | Manish Pushye & Ingryd Hernandez
How do you buy a commercial property when the original business plan falls apart — and still turn it into a winning deal?
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Kyle Karges sits down with real estate entrepreneur Manish Pushye and capital raiser Ingryd Hernandez to unpack a creative commercial real estate deal in Avondale, Arizona involving a shopping center, a failed liquor store plan, seller financing, private lending, and a 1031 exchange investor.
Manish shares how he went from signing a lease on a retail space to negotiating ownership of the parcel after city restrictions blocked his original business model. From there, he creatively structured the acquisition using a mix of private money, seller finance, and tenant-in-common financing.
Connect with Manish: https://awesomeroi.us/
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➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
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Mar 14, 2026 • 28min
How to Make Money 3 Ways on Wraps | Creative Finance, Subject-To & Lease Options with Gina Weibel
In this episode, Justin Tuminowski sits down with creative finance investor Gina Weibel to break down how wraps can generate income in three powerful ways: upfront cash, monthly cash flow, and backend equity.
📲 Connect with Gina
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➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
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Mar 3, 2026 • 34min
How a Transaction Coordinator Protects Your Real Estate Deals | Creative Finance, Subto & RV Park Investing with Ella Ray
What does a Transaction Coordinator (TC) actually do in creative real estate deals — and why could one save you tens of thousands of dollars?
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Justin Tuminoski sits down with Ella Ray (@alldayellaray), a top-tier Transaction Coordinator inside the Subto community, to break down the critical role TCs play in creative finance, subject-to deals, wholesaling, and private money transactions.
Connect with Ella: https://www.instagram.com/alldayellaray/
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
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Feb 24, 2026 • 32min
2.75% Interest Rate in 2025?! Chad Glover’s Subto Blueprint + Co-Living Cash Flow
A 2.75% interest rate deal in this market sounds impossible—until you hear how Chad Glover structured it. Chad joins Justin Tuminowski to unpack a real subject-to acquisition on a USDA loan, plus the strategy he’s using to turn the property into co-living / rental-by-the-room for serious monthly cash flow.
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
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Feb 17, 2026 • 53min
How She Got Into Real Estate at 25 and Built a NYC Portfolio
How does someone get started in real estate at 25 — and go on to build a multimillion-dollar portfolio in New York City?
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Kyle Karges sits down with veteran investor Alla Bares to unpack her 25-year journey from buying her first foreclosure in Queens to completing a luxury NYC townhouse redevelopment that sold for nearly $8 million.
📲 Connect with Alla
Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
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Feb 10, 2026 • 32min
Turning Massive Liens Into Massive Profits
What do you do when a real estate deal has over $600,000 in liens, squatters, mental health issues, tax problems, and everyone says it’s impossible?
In this powerful episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Justin Tuminowski sits down with Eric Brakken and Mike Lauer, two creative real estate investors who tackled one of the messiest deals you’ll ever hear—and turned it into a six-figure profit.
📲 Connect with Eric
Instagram | Facebook
➡️RSVP for a FREE RV training with Pace (LIVE): https://subto.sjv.io/RGJebg
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
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Feb 3, 2026 • 22min
The Due-On-Sale Clause Almost Killed This Deal—Here’s How She Won
What happens when a lender enforces the due-on-sale clause—and how do you survive it without losing the deal?
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Justin Tuminowski sits down with seasoned creative investor Iva Norris, who shares a real-life wrap deal that produced $800/month in cash flow—even after the due-on-sale clause was triggered.
📲 Connect with Iva
Instagram | Facebook
➡️RSVP for a FREE RV training with Pace (LIVE): https://subto.sjv.io/RGJebg
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
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Jan 28, 2026 • 31min
Turning Non-Deals to Profit: Creative Restructuring Techniques
Welcome to a new episode of the Get Creative podcast! Today, host Ingryd Hernandez is joined by real estate experts Wes Thompson from Washington, D.C., and Marcelo Tostes from San Antonio. This episode dives deep into the world of real estate investing, focusing on creative finance strategies and success stories. Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting, you'll find actionable insights to help you secure your first or next deal in the competitive real estate market.
Highlights:
"Creative finance has opened doors to real estate investments that I never thought possible."
"The best deals come from understanding the nuances of each transaction and the human element behind them."
"Every deal teaches something new, that’s the beauty of real estate investing."
"It's not just about closing deals, but building relationships that last and create continuous opportunities."
Timestamps:
01:04 - Meet the Guests: Wes Thompson and Marcelo Tostes
02:08 - Wes’s Journey to His Second Creative Deal
03:29 - Leveraging Community for Real Estate Success
07:18 - Strategy: Turning a Non-Deal into an Opportunity
12:11 - Negotiating and Restructuring Deals
14:08 - Personal Funding vs. Private Money
18:03 - Tax Benefits and Deal Structuring
22:47 - Overcoming Challenges in Deal Execution
25:54 - Preparing a Property for Rental Market
28:44 - Closing Remarks and Where to Connect
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
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Jan 20, 2026 • 41min
Micro-Multifamily Investing: Justin’s “Creative Burrito” Strategy Explained
What if you could combine BRRRR + creative finance and turn one ugly single-family home into three cash-flowing rental units—without needing the seller to accept a traditional discount?
In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Keola Keala interviews Justin Tuminowski (aka @realestatejustin) — Sub2 leader, Owners Club member, and New England micro-multifamily operator — as he breaks down a real deal he calls the “Creative BRRRR Burrito.”
Justin shares how a simple direct mail relationship (plus consistent follow-up and a $5 Dunkin’ gift card at the perfect time) led to a motivated seller giving him first right of refusal on a highly visible, distressed property in Southern New Hampshire.
Connect with Justin: https://www.instagram.com/real.estate.justin/
Connect with Keola: https://www.instagram.com/keola_keala/
➡️RSVP for a FREE Section 8 training with Pace (LIVE): https://subto.sjv.io/JK9LYE
➡️ Meet Pace on the Creative Nation Tour: https://bit.ly/GetCreativeNationTour
➡️ Download the Free SubTo A-Z e-book: https://subto.sjv.io/qzd0Vb
➡️ Get the CRM that will take you further: https://www.gohighlevel.com/pace
➡️ Use Creative Listing for FREE to buy and sell creatively: https://bit.ly/CreativeListing
➡️ Join the SubTo Community: https://subto.sjv.io/RG6EDb
➡️ Become a Top Tier Transaction Coordinator: https://toptiertc.pxf.io/yqmoxW
➡️ Discover the Gator Method: https://gator.sjv.io/6yYWBG
➡️ Get to the SquadUp Summit Conference: https://bit.ly/GetToSquadUpSummit
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