First Things Podcast

Caitrin Bennett, author of "Holier Matrimony", joins to discuss the sacred nature of marriage and its transformation in modern society. She highlights the steep decline in marriage rates among younger generations and the shift towards cohabitation. The conversation dives into the inspiring lives of married saints like Louis and Zelie Martin, contrasting their selflessness with contemporary views on love. Additionally, Bennett shares touching stories, including the Rugambas of Rwanda, illustrating how faith and connection to God can strengthen marriages through adversity.

Dan Hitchens, Senior Editor at First Things, dives into the first days of Pope Leo XIV's pontificate, the first American pope. The conversation highlights contrasting leadership styles and the cautious optimism surrounding his papacy. They explore the implications of the pope's roots as a naturalized Peruvian citizen, examining his influence on American Catholicism and broader societal issues. The dynamics of his family, particularly his brothers, reveal personal insights that shape his leadership, blending tradition with modern challenges in the Church.

Stanley Fish, a renowned scholar of Milton and author of 'Law at the Movies,' dives into the fascinating interplay between law and film. He critiques the courtroom dynamics in films like '12 Angry Men,' emphasizing how these narratives reflect moral complexities. Fish discusses the clash of secular law and religious influence in 'Inherit the Wind,' highlighting its simplistic portrayal of legal arguments. He also explores the implications of modern libel law against the backdrop of fake news, using films like 'The People vs. Larry Flynt' as a lens.

Daniel Mahoney, an Emeritus professor at Assumption University and senior fellow at the Claremont Institute, dives deep into the roots of totalitarianism. He critiques modern misconceptions about democracy and emphasizes the significance of truth and Christian values. The discussion warns about the dangers of ideological purity and cancel culture, drawing parallels to historical regimes. Mahoney also explores the rise of nihilism in 2020 and the need for moderation in political discourse, showcasing the persistence of ideological misunderstandings throughout history.

While waiting for news from the real-life conclave, the editors re-watch the 2024 feature film Conclave and the 2017 HBO series The Young Pope. Then they air their hopes and anxieties about the papal election. Dan Hitchens and special guest Matthew Schmitz join Julia Yost.

In this episode, Darel E. Paul joins Rusty Reno on The Editor's Desk to talk about his recent essay, "Feminism Against Fertility" from the May 2025 issue of the magazine. Please subscribe at www.firstthings.com/subscribe in order to access this and many other great pieces!

The editors discuss Pope Francis, whose twelve-year pontificate ended with his death on Easter Monday. Then the staff preview their picks for the upcoming conclave. Rusty Reno and Dan Hitchens join Julia Yost.

Patrick Deneen, a political science professor at the University of Notre Dame and author of 'Why Liberalism Failed', critiques contemporary political thought by delving into the decline of liberalism and the rise of post-liberalism. He challenges the principles of individualism and rights, confronting the overwhelming influence of progressive ideologies. Deneen examines the interconnectedness of historical political theories and advocates for a return to pre-modern values. He encourages individuals to embrace adventure, autonomy, and reshape societal norms.

In the ​latest installment of the ongoing interview series with contributing editor Mark Bauerlein, Mary E. DeMuth joins in to discuss her recent book, "The Most Overlooked Women of the Bible: What Their Stories Teach Us about Being Seen and Heard." Intro music by Jack Bauerlein.

In this episode, Ericka Andersen joins Rusty Reno at The Editor’s Desk to talk about her recent essay, “Who Owns the Embryos?” from the April 2025 issue of the magazine. Please subscribe at www.firstthings.com/subscribe in order to access this and many other great pieces!