

Complexity Premia
Coolabah Capital Investments
Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast from Coolabah Capital, which is hosted by Christopher Joye, CIO and portfolio manager of Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi Ann Cheng, a portfolio management director.
The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets.
If this recording contains reference to any financial products, that reference does not constitute financial advice or a recommendation, and may not be relied upon. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC’s MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.
The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets.
If this recording contains reference to any financial products, that reference does not constitute financial advice or a recommendation, and may not be relied upon. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC’s MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.
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Apr 10, 2026 • 30min
Episode 75: War, Rates, and Risk: Where to Hide in a Fragile Macro Regime
Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, a hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Senior Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.
Chris and Ying Yi break down what rates markets are pricing in Australia and the US, and what that implies for housing, the Aussie dollar, and broader asset valuations. They assess the market impact of escalating conflict in Iran, where capital is flowing in periods of stress, and which assets are proving resilient. The discussion then turns to positioning—how to think about risk, where to hide, and where the most compelling opportunities are emerging in an increasingly volatile global environment.
This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

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Mar 9, 2026 • 20min
Episode 74: War in Middle East; Oil Price Shock; Inflation and Interest Rates
They dissect recent Middle East military strikes and the market’s initial calm before rising volatility. They explore oil and LNG surges and the risk of a supply-driven inflation shock. They debate persistent global inflation, central bank missteps, and why rates may need to climb higher. They outline macro themes like AI capex, fiscal largesse, and the investment case for liquidity and high-quality bonds.

Feb 24, 2026 • 27min
Episode 73: Bonds, Bots, and Base Rates: Where Yields Go Next
A rapid markets scan covering record bond issuance and shifting yield dynamics. Discussion of hyperscaler AI capex feeding bond supply and tech credit stresses. Views on where cash and long-duration bonds look inexpensive. Analysis of central bank moves, housing risks from higher rates, and whether AI will push inflation. Cross-asset tells from the dollar, gold and bitcoin for the year ahead.

Jan 21, 2026 • 21min
Episode 72: America First, Inflation Second: Trump, Power Politics, and the End of Easy Money
Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, a hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Senior Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.
In this episode, Chris and Ying Yi assess what lies ahead for markets in 2026 as Trump’s America First doctrine reshapes global trade, geopolitics, and monetary policy. They argue that tariffs, reshoring, AI-driven capex, and unchecked fiscal spending are reviving inflation risks just as markets price complacency. From Trump’s clash with the Fed to Australia’s fiscal excesses and the RBA’s credibility test, this episode explores why the easing cycle may already be over—and why power, not policy orthodoxy, is once again driving the global order.
This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

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Dec 21, 2025 • 10min
Episode 71: From Lucky Country to Lazy Land: When the State Smothers Markets
Hosts dive into the growing tension between state intervention and market dynamics in Australia. They argue that the nation's productivity decline stems from political choices, not bad luck. The discussion highlights a troubling brain drain, with talent fleeing to more competitive environments. Activist government policies are seen as stifling innovation and work ethic. Historical patterns suggest that only crises can spark meaningful reform, raising questions about the future of Australian markets.

Nov 30, 2025 • 11min
Episode 70: AI Capex: The Trillion-Dollar Inflation Time-Bomb
This discussion dives into the multi-trillion-dollar surge in AI infrastructure, exploring its inflationary potential amidst productivity gains. The impact of U.S. reshoring and rising memory costs creates a fascinating tension in credit markets. AI is found to enhance rather than replace jobs, driving a consulting boom, as firms adapt to new technologies. Furthermore, the strategic moves of hyperscalers signal competitive dynamics while increasing debt levels raise concerns about financial stability. It's a critical look at AI's dual role in productivity and inflation.

Oct 29, 2025 • 10min
Episode 69: The Hybrid Market Shake-Up; Global Shifts; and What’s Next for Aussie Investors?
Australia's $38.8 billion hybrid market is in decline, raising concerns about global implications. The Credit Suisse write-off sparks a legal fallout, impacting investor compensation. Conflicts of interest arise between shareholders and hybrid holders, complicating the landscape. APRA's decision to phase out bank hybrids is challenged, with critiques on the rationale behind it. What's next? Investors face hidden risks and must consider alternatives like corporate convertibles and private credit as the market shifts.

Oct 15, 2025 • 22min
Episode 68: Making Sense of the Fixed Income Paradox; Rising Term Premia; September Market Rally; Aussie Economic Outlook
Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.
In this new flash episode of the Complexity Premia podcast, Chris and Ying Yi unpack the paradox facing investors today: tight corporate credit spreads against the backdrop of historically high bond yields. They explore how this dynamic is reshaping opportunities across global debt markets, the shifting balance of risk between governments and corporates, and what it all means for returns. The discussion also delves into September’s market rally, Australia’s inflation outlook, and how population growth and housing trends could shape the nation’s economic future.
This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

Sep 2, 2025 • 20min
Episode 67: From the RBA to the Fed: Policy, Politics, and the Hunt for Yield
Welcome to the Complexity Premia podcast by Coolabah Capital, hosted by Christopher Joye, Chief Investment Officer and Portfolio Manager at Coolabah Capital, and Ying Yi, a Portfolio Management Director at Coolabah Capital. The Complexity Premia podcast strives to deconstruct modern investment problems for wholesale (not retail) participants in capital markets. You can listen on your favourite podcast app, or you can find it on Spotify, Podbean or Apple Podcasts.
In this new flash episode of the Complexity Premia podcast, Chris and Ying Yi dissect the RBA’s recent rate cut and its ripple effects on housing, productivity, and fiscal policy, before turning to the US where Trump’s tariffs, Fed easing, and central bank independence dominate the debate; rounding out with a deep dive into the hunt for yield, we compare hybrids, bonds, and equities, stressing the trade-offs between risk, return, and the often-underestimated value of liquidity.
This information is suitable for wholesale investors only and has been produced by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Ltd ACN 605806059, which holds Australian Financial Services Licence No. 482238 (CCII). The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by CCII to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. Any performance data presented on this site is pre-fees for institutional clients that negotiate custom fee rates, and these solutions are not available to retail investors. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.

Aug 27, 2025 • 26min
Tariff Trades & Shark Tales - Guest Appearance on Without Boundaries
In this episode, Christopher Joye (Chief Investment Officer, Coolabah Capital) made a guest appearance on Without Boundaries, a podcast from Russell Investments (released on 8 July 2025) and hosted by Jon Eggins. Chris discusses how he successfully traded the Trump administration’s rollout of reciprocal tariffs, how Coolabah combines technology and people to exploit bond mispricings in the search for alpha, and how he once saved a surfer from a bull shark using a search-and-rescue drone.
Don't forget to check out the original podcast on Spotify:
Without Boundaries | Podcast on Spotify
The views expressed in this recording represent the personal opinions of the speakers and do not represent the view of any other party. The information does not take into account the particular investment objectives or financial situation of any potential listener. It does not constitute, and should not be relied on as, financial or investment advice or recommendations (expressed or implied) and it should not be used as an invitation to take up any investments or investment services. Whilst we believe that the information discussed in the podcast is correct, no warranty or representation is given to this effect, and listeners should not rely on this information when making any decisions. No responsibility can be accepted by Coolabah Capital Institutional Investments Pty Limited (CCII) to any end users for any action taken on the basis of this information. No investment decision or activity should be undertaken without first seeking qualified and professional advice. CCII may have a financial interest in any assets discussed during the podcast. Listeners in Australia are encouraged to visit ASIC's MoneySmart website to obtain information regarding financial advice and investments.


