Mamamia Out Loud

On Friday afternoon, Taylor Swift re-released her 2012 break-up album Red, and with it put her heartbreak over ex-flame Jake Gyllenhaal back in the spotlight. Safe to say it likely ruined Jake’s weekend, because the Swifties are after him, but does he deserve the pile-on almost a decade after their relationship ended? Plus, in a very 2006 vibe, the Noughties It Girls —Britney, Paris and Lindsay — are having a revival, but the narrative around these women is very different to the last time they made headlines. And, do people like you as much as you think they do? Theory behind the “Liking Gap” The End Bits Recommendations:  Jessie thinks you should watch Season 2 of Love Life PLUS, listen to Mia's interview with Phoebe Burgess in this week's No FilterLearn more about MPlus here Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright and Mia Freedman Producer: Sydney Pead Audio Producer: Leah Porges Executive Producer: Elissa Ratliff  CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.   Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're afraid to say Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are back in the headlines, for three very different reasons this week: Harry's bang-on prediction about the Capitol insurrection, The Sussex's involvement in a not-so "unauthorised" biography, and Meghan's half-brother's stint on Australian reality TV. Plus, how much of our private movements are we willing to share with our loved ones? We talk location trackers and awkward friend phone calls. And our Best and Worst of the week. Heads up: episode talks about domestic violence. If this raises issues for you there's help. Call 1800 RESPECT.END BITSRecommendations: Holly wants you to watch Making It CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright and Mia Freedman Producer: Sydney PeadAudio Producer: Leah PorgesExecutive Producer: Lize Ratliff CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today a very special guest has joined Mia, Holly and Jessie in the studio: it’s New York Times Best Selling author Sally Hepworth!The recent Instagram stories of former Home and Away actor Isobel Lucas at an anti-vax rally has us wondering if we should stop following problematic people and topics on social media, or if it’s better to keep tabs on them.Plus, the subtle way everyone is introducing a new partner into their lives.And, is it a problem for plastic surgeons to share videos of gory procedures on their social platforms? And if so, why can’t we stop watching? The End Bits Recommendations:  Sally Hepworth wants you to read The Henna Artist by Alka JoshiLearn more about MPlus here Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman and Sally Hepworth. Producer: Sydney Pead Audio Producer: Leah Porges Executive Producer: Elissa Ratliff  CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.  Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We’ve noticed some weird vibes coming from Chris Pratt lately, most recently in a birthday Instagram post to his wife that barely mentioned his wife, and sparked backlash about the way he described his daughter. Plus we’ve got the details on the horror crowd surge that killed eight people during Travis Scott’s festival set in Texas. And, The Quicky host, Claire Murphy talks us through how she has become a successful morning person in more ways than one. WARNING: Things get a bit sexy.  The End Bits Recommendations:  Jessie wants you to read Insatiable by Daisy Buchanan. Listen to 8 Minutes To Change Your Work Life here: https://omny.fm/shows/8-minutes-to-change-your-work-life/playlists/eight-minutes-to-change-your-work-life Learn more about MPlus here Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Claire Murphy, and Mia Freedman Producer: Sydney Pead, Audio Producer: Leah Porges Executive Producer: Elissa Ratliff  CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Support the show: https://www.mamamia.com.au/mplus/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On Wednesday, we were part of the chorus of relief and delight at a missing girl being found alive after 18 days. Since then, there have been paparazzi outside Cleo Smith's house, pictures of her first days of freedom, a meeting between the family and the WA Premier. Cleo's family will be bombarded with media offers, many with price tags, but is this a time when the media should be leaving the Smiths alone? Do we feel like we're owed something because of the emotion we've invested in this story?  Plus, Celeste Barber, Em Rata, and a row about internalised misogyny. And, our best and worst of the week, which includes a very embarrassing Prime Minister and Joe Rogan. The End Bits Recommendations:  Mia wants you to make a reverse advent calendar this yearLearn more about MPlus here Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright and Mia Freedman Producer: Emma Gillespie CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Most of us awoke to some amazing news this morning, that four-year-old Cleo Smith has been found alive and well. It’s the story that has gripped most of the country for the last two weeks, and after 18 days, it's the headline we were praying for. But how did we become so unaccustomed to good news? Plus, has getting dressed up and going to the races become...uncool? The cultural shift of celebrities snubbing The Cup.  And, when do kids need their parents most? Teen-ternity leave explained.  The End Bits Recommendations:  Jessie wants you to listen to a podcast called Honestly with Bari WeissLearn more about MPlus here Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright and Mia Freedman Producer: Emma Gillespie CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has made an appearance at the ICAC investigation into whether or not she breached public trust, and turned a blind eye to alleged corrupt behaviour by her ex-partner. Two camps have formed in the court of public opinion,  The ‘poor Gladys, everyone’s had a bad boyfriend’ team and the ‘she knew exactly what she was doing’ side. We're divided.  Plus, gambling ads seem to be following us around everywhere we go right now. Should we ban them? And... are you afraid of your Gen Z colleagues?  The End Bits Recommendations:  Mia wants you to watch Four Corners: Cosmetic CowboysLearn more about MPlus here Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright and Mia Freedman Producer: Emma Gillespie CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.  Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In case you missed it, the biggest company in the world is rebranding. Mark Zuckerberg - boss and owner of Facebook and overlord to us all - announced overnight that the company will now be known as Meta. So what does the Meta-verse entail and what does it mean for us? Plus, there’s a very messy celebrity split playing out on social media that has us asking… is it ALWAYS best to take the high road? And our best and worst of the week, including crutches and gambling.   The End Bits Recommendations:  Jessie wants you to check out DISSH Boutique  Learn more about MPlus here Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright and Mia Freedman Producer: Emma Gillespie CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A worrying trend is starting to emerge in the UK and this week, it’s reportedly spread to Australia - You might have heard about it online or seen videos about it on TikTok…it’s called needle spiking and it’s happening in nightclubs and bars. Are we supposed to wear body armour out of the house now? Or is this a case of rumours spiraling into fearmongering? Plus, is Daniel Johns Australia's Britney Spears? Why the reclusive rockstar is back in the headlines. And, do you let your dog play with sticks? Of course you do. Well, here's why you shouldn't.  The End Bits Recommendations:  Holly, Mia and Jessie all want you to read Sally Hepworth's new book, The Younger Wife You can listen to the Who is Daniel Johns? podcast here Learn more about MPlus here Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright and Mia Freedman Producer: Emma Gillespie CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Everyone is talking about the accidental shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, who was killed on a film set when actor Alec Baldwin fired a prop gun. How has the world reacted, and what does it tell us about Hollywood? Plus, do you ever feel like life would be easier if you weren’t so smart? One celebrity thinks so.  And, are you out of practice at saying 'no'? How to unlearn your Yes Woman ways.  The End Bits Recommendations:  Holly wants you to read Trent Dalton's new book, Love Stories Learn more about MPlus here Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright and Mia Freedman Producer: Emma Gillespie CONTACT US Via our PodPhone on 02 8999 9386 Via our email at outloud@mamamia.com.au  Via our Outlouders Facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/groups/329632330777506/ Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.