

The Scriptures Are Real
Kerry Muhlestein
The Scriptures Are Real (TSAR) with Kerry Muhlestein is a podcast where we look at elements of the scriptures that have become real to us. We interview both experts (people with language, archaeological, historical backgrounds, etc.), and lay folks, and explore times when the scriptures became real to them. This is done from the viewpoint of members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We believe that there is real power in the scriptures and that as they become more real we can better apply them to our lives and draw more power from them.
If you listen to this podcast you will learn all kinds of interesting background information that will help you understand and learn more from the scriptures. We believe it will allow you to add real power to your life.
My gratitude to my co-host Lamar Newmeyer. Also to my friend Rich Nicholls, who composed the introductory music.
If you listen to this podcast you will learn all kinds of interesting background information that will help you understand and learn more from the scriptures. We believe it will allow you to add real power to your life.
My gratitude to my co-host Lamar Newmeyer. Also to my friend Rich Nicholls, who composed the introductory music.
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Mar 1, 2026 • 1h 5min
S5 E17 Jacob Prevailing with and in God, the amazing stories that create Israel (Gen. 24-33)
Robbie Taggart, BYU biblical scholar who studies Jacob's life, and Joshua Sears, BYU ancient scripture faculty who clarifies Hebrew translation and servitude issues. They explore Jacob’s messy family drama, deception and covenant-making, Jacob’s ladder and all-night wrestle, reconciliation with Esau, and nuanced discussions of slavery language and translation challenges in the Old Testament.

Feb 22, 2026 • 1h 32min
S5 E16 Sacrifices, Sisters, Seen of God, and You. The dramatic stories of Abraham’s family (Genesis 18-23)
Take advantage of classes on symbolism from Michelle Gateau and on the Bible from Kerry Muhlestein. All of this is available on our Patreon Website for the cost of a lunch at your favorite fast food place. Just go to https://www.patreon.com/c/EnlightenEdgeEDU and take advantage of our amazing content! In this packed episode, Kerry and Robbie Taggart discuss the trials of Hagar and how she is seen by the Lord, and how that relations to our lives. Then Kerry and George Pierce discuss what archaeology teaches us about how life was different for Sarah, Hagar and Abraham than we typically think. Then Kerry and his roundtable friends explore the story of speaking of Sarah as Abraham’s sister, or of saying that Rebekah was Isaac’s. Then Josh Matson and Kerry delve into the amazing and powerful story of the command given to Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. They explore what this means for us in our lives. We are grateful for our executive producers, P. Franzen, J. Parke, D. Watson, B. Van Blerkom, the Dawsons, M. Cannon, M. Rosema, B. Fisher, J. Beardall, D. Anderson, and H. Umphlett, and for all our generous and loyal donors. We are also very grateful for all our Patreon members. We are so thankful for Beehive Broadcast for producing the podcast and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.

Feb 15, 2026 • 1h 2min
S5 E15 An Introduction to Facsimile Two (Abraham 1-2)
In this episode Kerry from four years ago Kerry and his co-host Lamar Newmeyer discuss Facsimile Two from the Book of Abraham. They talk about Egyptological elements of the facsimile and how it can teach us about the temple and our journey to be with God. We are grateful for our executive producers, P. Franzen, J. Parke, D. Watson, B. Van Blerkom, the Dawsons, M. Cannon, M. Rosema, B. Fisher, J. Beardall, D. Anderson, and H. Umphlett, and for all our generous and loyal donors. We are also very grateful for all our Patreon members. We are so thankful for Beehive Broadcast for producing the podcast and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.

Feb 15, 2026 • 59min
S5 E14 The Book of Abraham Introduced and Understood (Abraham 1-2)
They trace how Egyptian papyri reached Joseph Smith and the strange history of missing scrolls. They compare translation methods and explore the idea that papyri may have catalyzed revelation rather than provide literal text. They unpack Facsimile One and Facsimile Two, introduce Hor the priest and Theban ritual context, and survey modern Egyptologist contests over the fragments.

Feb 15, 2026 • 60min
S5 E 13 Abraham, Adam, and You Seeking for the Covenant and the Symbolism of Covenantal Sacrifice (Genesis 12-17)
Speaking of Covenants (as we do this week), to get really in depth learning about the covenant, join Steven Harper and myself on a cruise where we discuss the New and Everlasting Covenant in a series of ten lectures/discussions/workshops. This will be fantastic! Plus we dock at Cozumel, Roatan, Costa Maya, and more! Learn more at https://restorationtravels.com/nec-cruise/ In this episode Kerry and Mike Goodman explore some elements of the Abrahamic Covenant. Then Kerry delves into the wonderful but mysterious symbolism of the sacrifice Abraham made when he covenanted with God, and the dividing of the animals in half, and what that has to do with your covenant and with the renewal of your covenant at the sacrament every week. Then Kerry and Phillip Allred explore why Abraham wanted to covenant with God, and why God chose to covenant with Abraham, and how that covenant relates to other scriptural stories of covenants. We are grateful for our executive producers, P. Franzen, J. Parke, D. Watson, B. Van Blerkom, the Dawsons, M. Cannon, M. Rosema, B. Fisher, J. Beardall, D. Anderson, and H. Umphlett, and for all our generous and loyal donors. We are also very grateful for all our Patreon members. We are so thankful for Beehive Broadcast for producing the podcast and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.

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Feb 8, 2026 • 57min
S5 E12 The Abrahamic Covenant and You (thoughts on the Covenant)
Take advantage of classes on symbolism from Michelle Gateau and on the Bible from Kerry Muhlestein. All of this is available on our Patreon Website for the cost of a lunch at your favorite fast food place. Just go to https://www.patreon.com/c/EnlightenEdgeEDU and take advantage of our amazing content! In this episode Kerry explores the Abrahamic Covenant. He teaches us what the core element of the covenant is, and how that affects who you are, your relationship with God, how you can access God’s power and Christ’s atoning grace, and so much more. Learn about the covenant in a way that helps you really understand your life. We are grateful for our executive producers, P. Franzen, J. Parke, D. Watson, B. Van Blerkom, the Dawsons, M. Cannon, M. Rosema, B. Fisher, J. Beardall, D. Anderson, and H. Umphlett, and for all our generous and loyal donors. We are also very grateful for all our Patreon members. We are so thankful for Beehive Broadcast for producing the podcast and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.

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Feb 8, 2026 • 45min
S5 E11 Mercy in Wrath: God, Noah, and the Chance to Start Over (Genesis 6-11)
In this episode Kerry helps us understand the background of the Flood by helping us understand more about who Noah is. He also explains some crucial phrases that open up understanding the text, such as what it means for Noah to be perfect in his generation. Then Kerry guides a roundtable discussion through the idea of violence in the Old Testament and how it helps us understand elements of the Flood story. They also use the Book of Moses to understand it better. Then Kerry explores biblical phrases and how knowing what they mean opens windows into the text. Then he explains more about what is happening during Noah’s day and why the flood was necessary and how understanding it correctly helps us understand the nature of God. We are grateful for our executive producers, P. Franzen, J. Parke, D. Watson, B. Van Blerkom, the Dawsons, M. Cannon, M. Rosema, B. Fisher, J. Beardall, D. Anderson, and H. Umphlett, and for all our generous and loyal donors. We are also very grateful for all our Patreon members. We are so thankful for Beehive Broadcast for producing the podcast and for Rich Nicholls, who composed and plays the music for the podcast.

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Feb 1, 2026 • 1h 17min
S5 E10 Becoming Zion: why not you right now? (Moses 7)
Joshua Mattson, professor of ancient scripture, offers historical and textual context. Andrew Skinner, longtime scripture scholar, highlights transmission and translation issues. Phillip Allred, academic and reflective commentator, explores Enoch and Zion. They discuss Enoch’s vision, why Moses highlights Christ, baptismal practices in ancient contexts, definitions of Zion, and what it means to build a Zion people today.

Jan 25, 2026 • 54min
S5 E9 Enoch, Adam, Christ and Becoming Children of God ( week 4; Moses 6)
Mike Goodman, a religious educator and scholar in Church settings, reflects on Enoch’s journey from fear to prophetic leadership. He explores God’s commissioning and how divine vision shapes service. The conversation also dives into Adam’s teaching on the Fall, spiritual rebirth, baptism, and becoming children of God through Christ. Short, thoughtful reflections on abiding with God and relying on divine help.

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Jan 18, 2026 • 1h 4min
S5 E8 The Fall, God's Garments, Learning from Eve about Teaching Families (Gen 3-4 Episode 2)
Mark Matthews, a religious scholar, dives into the doctrinal significance of the Fall and its necessity for progression. Karen Hepworth, an educator, connects God's clothing of Adam and Eve with temple garments, highlighting their sacred symbolism. Phil Allred, a professor, discusses how Adam and Eve’s family dynamics serve as a model for modern relationships, emphasizing unified counsel and intimacy. Together, they explore themes of agency, sacrificial symbolism, and the transformative power of family as a space for growth and grace.


