

The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy
Curt Widhalm, LMFT and Katie Vernoy, LMFT
The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide: Where Therapists Live, Breathe, and Practice as Human Beings It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when clinicians must develop a personal brand to market their private practices, and are connecting over social media, engaging in social activism, pushing back against mental health stigma, and facing a whole new style of entrepreneurship. To support you as a whole person, a business owner, and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.
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Dec 19, 2017 • 32min
Reflections on The Evolution of Psychotherapy Conference
It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about:We reflect on our experiences during the conference as well as share perspectives from a wide array of participants and fellow exhibitors:Amelia Mosley, Amethyst Kianipur, Arlen Grajeda, Boonie Sripom, Felician Douville, Frances Robbins, Jennie Steinberg, Karin Matthews, Katrina Watkins, Kenneth Rudnicki, Khali Koetting, Mercedes Samudio, and Robyn D’Angelo, Amanda Schaeffer (Good Therapy), Anita Avedian (Anger Management 818), Dana Schwartz (Center for Discovery), Heather Potter (Thera-Link), Howard Spector (SimplePractice), Jo Muirhead, Nancy Milazzo (CAMFT), Nicol Stolar-Peterson (Therapist Court Prep), and Perry Rosenblum (Brighter Vision)Topics discussed:#ModernTherapistProblems#EvolveMoreAnd how amazing and rejuvenating it can be to go to the Evolution of Psychotherapy Conference and connect with other clinicians! Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.No specific resources this episode, but stay tuned because we have a couple more special episodes from this conference coming this week!Who we are:Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby.Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world.A Quick Note:Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it.Our guests are also only speaking for themselves and have their own opinions. We aren’t trying to take their voice and no one speaks for us either. Mostly because they don’t want to, but hey. Stay in Touch:www.mtsgpodcast.comhttps://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/https://twitter.com/therapymovementhttps://www.instagram.com/therapyreimagined/ Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Dec 14, 2017 • 31min
Having Fun at The Evolution of Psychotherapy Conference
Episode 12: Having Fun at The Evolution of Psychotherapy ConferenceSurvival Guide Tips, Tools, and Name DroppingIt’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about:We’re having a great time at The Evolution of Psychotherapy Conference!!We sat down and talked with so many of the exhibitors and participants.Adam Luke, Alise Bartley, Ben Caldwell, Chris Williams, Cori Rosenthal, Douglas Evans, Ernesto Segismundo, Frances J. Harvey, Jason Odegaard, Jean Penilla, Jill Johnson-Young, Jo Muirhead, Joanne Holbert, Joey Tapia-Fuselier, Kelly Higdon, Lilia Carey, Maelissa Hall, Melissa Garcia, Miranda Palmer, Rachel McMurray, Saba Harouni Lurie, Sana Vawda, Sandra Miller, Sherry Shockey-Pope, Silvy Khoucasian, Susette Magana, Terry Heptinstall, Uriah Guilford, and Zanetta Van PuttenWe have more interviews to come!! Check back!! Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.We’re going to be at Exhibitor Table #142 at the conference. Come visit us to meet us, hop on the podcast or livestream, and to take advantage of our giveaways and raffles. Learn about our exciting events for next year and sign up for opportunities to get extra special rates during our flash sale!Who we are:Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby.Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world.A Quick Note:Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it. Stay in Touch:www.mtsgpodcast.comhttps://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/https://twitter.com/therapymovement Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Dec 12, 2017 • 18min
Getting Ready for The Evolution of Psychotherapy Conference
It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about:
Navigating the conference
Geeking out over therapy
Connecting with colleagues all over the world
Survival Guide Tips:
Plan to support your own stamina
Pick speakers, not topics (don’t miss people this time around – they may not be around the next time)
Go early to get good seats at the big talks
Names we drop
Bandura, both Becks, Chopra, Glasser, Loftus, Meichenbaum, Miller, Minuchin, Morisette, Siegel, Yalom, Zieg, Zimbardo
Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.We’re going to be at Exhibitor Table #142 at the conference. Come visit us to meet us, hop on the podcast or livestream, and to take advantage of our giveaways and raffles. Learn about our exciting events for next year and sign up for opportunities to get extra special rates during our flash sale!Who we are:Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby.Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world.A Quick Note:Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it. Stay in Touch:www.mtsgpodcast.comhttps://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/https://twitter.com/therapymovement Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Dec 7, 2017 • 38min
How Much is TOO Much?
It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about:
When and how to talk about politics and religion
Authenticity versus poor boundaries
Countertransference, here and now feelings, and following the client’s lead
Remembering that clients don’t have to hold confidentiality for us
How and when to pull back the curtain about why you’re using a specific intervention
Processing (without over-processing) shifts in the relationships, personal disclosure, and human interactions
When to maintain objectivity and when to share your perspective and emotions
Understanding how your appearance affects your clients
Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. The Gift of Therapy by Irvin Yalom Who we are:Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby.Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world.A Quick Note:Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when Katie is speaking for Curt. Stay in Touch:www.mtsgpodcast.comhttps://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/https://twitter.com/therapymovement Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Dec 5, 2017 • 33min
Vulnerability, Mistakes, and The Impostor Syndrome
It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about:
Vulnerability, self-judgment and the Impostor Syndrome
Being a human being in the room, while holding boundaries
How to cope with clients responding to you, not just “therapy” or “mental health stigma”
Handling mistakes and making repair (and avoiding blaming your clients)
The scourge of perfectionism
Claiming your whole self (even the goofy parts)
What boundaries you should hold related to telling your own story
Inviting feedback from your clients
How being available 24/7 has increased vulnerability
Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.No specific resources were mentioned in this episode because we’re just plain lazy. Want to read about vulnerability? Try anything by Brene Brown – she is fabulous!! Who we are:Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby.Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world.A Quick Note:Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when Katie is speaking for Curt – which, let’s face it, is in everyone’s best interest. Stay in Touch:www.mtsgpodcast.comhttps://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/https://twitter.com/therapymovement Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Nov 30, 2017 • 28min
Creating an Effective Schedule
It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about:
The importance of time management related to trust, competence, and well-being
How to manage your time, energy, and priorities
How often self-care can be pushed out of our schedule (and why that’s so bad)
Steven Covey’s Big Rocks
Putting buffers in, transition time, and back up plans (for after vacation, when sick, etc.)
What a crisis really is (and how non-crises can derail us)
“Just in time” scheduling
Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together the resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Steven Covey Who we are:Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby.Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world. Stay in Touch:www.mtsgpodcast.comhttps://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/https://twitter.com/therapymovement Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Nov 28, 2017 • 37min
Becoming a Group Practice Owner
In this episode we talk with Maureen Werrbach about all things Group Practice:
What to consider when starting a group practice
Business plans and finances
How to shift your marketing and branding for a group practice
Structuring your practice and your schedule
Guilt and self-doubt
Hiring, mentoring, and workplace culture
How to build a strong team
The mistakes Maureen made (and what she says to do differently)

Nov 23, 2017 • 34min
Navigating the Holidays as a Therapist
In this episode we talk about:
Whether you should decorate your office
What to do about gifts
Potential trauma, triggers, pitfalls, and challenges related to holidays for clients
Diversity of your clients, colleagues, and community
Navigating scheduling challenges during the holidays
Fluctuating caseloads
Deciding whether to eat with your clients
Helping clients to cope during the holidays
Thanking referral sources during the holidays

Nov 21, 2017 • 33min
Therapist Know Thyself
In this episode, we talk about:
How to assess ourselves
Identifying who are clients are and how they find us
How to screen clients appropriately
Using humor – when, how, and why
Being yourself while holding appropriate boundaries
Evaluating clinical efficacy
Talking about the therapeutic relationship with your client
The importance of community, consultation, supervision, and feedback

Nov 16, 2017 • 31min
In-Person Networking
Networking is an important skill for all therapists. In this episode we answer the following questions:
Why is networking important?
What are the common challenges that therapists face?
How to network effectively
Developing and talking about your niche
Becoming memorable to get more referrals – your personal brand
Giving out business cards and how to follow up
Strategies for effective coffee meetings
Developing a collaborative treatment team of referral partners


